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Who Do YOU Want As Next Arsenal Manager

Ancelotti
27
21%
Tuchel
1
1%
Allegri
62
49%
PV4
7
6%
Enrique
3
2%
Jardim
6
5%
Nagelsmann
1
1%
Rodgers
1
1%
Arteta
4
3%
Others
15
12%
 
Total votes: 127

Bob Bayliss
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No point going for a "Wenger-lite" appointment. Five years ago that might have papered over the cracks. Now, we have to bring in someone completely different. Not Henry , Pv4, DB10 or anyone else with previous experience of playing for Wenger who might initially be welcomed but would run the risk of being inlufenced by a back-seat driver (as Moyes was when he took over at United).

My preference would be Simeone, with Allegri as reserve candidate.

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Bob Bayliss wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:17 pm
No point going for a "Wenger-lite" appointment. Five years ago that might have papered over the cracks. Now, we have to bring in someone completely different. Not Henry , Pv4, DB10 or anyone else with previous experience of playing for Wenger who might initially be welcomed but would run the risk of being inlufenced by a back-seat driver (as Moyes was when he took over at United).

My preference would be Simeone, with Allegri as reserve candidate.
You have to remember a lot of the old guard fell out with Wenger, PV4 for sure and I am sure DB10 also had a few words back in the day. Don't assume that just because they were tutored by Wenger they would turn out the same style of manager. For sure DB10 and PV4 don't suffer from fools gladly.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:34 pm
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:17 pm
No point going for a "Wenger-lite" appointment. Five years ago that might have papered over the cracks. Now, we have to bring in someone completely different. Not Henry , Pv4, DB10 or anyone else with previous experience of playing for Wenger who might initially be welcomed but would run the risk of being inlufenced by a back-seat driver (as Moyes was when he took over at United).

My preference would be Simeone, with Allegri as reserve candidate.
You have to remember a lot of the old guard fell out with Wenger, PV4 for sure and I am sure DB10 also had a few words back in the day. Don't assume that just because they were tutored by Wenger they would turn out the same style of manager. For sure DB10 and PV4 don't suffer from fools gladly.



Over the past few years the only main ex-players that havent come out in support of the senile c.unt, has been PV4 and DB10 8) TA6 and merse (amongst others) have critcisied him and then defended him (or vice versa), and others (wankbag keown) have always defended him, but at no stage has PV4 and DB10 defended the c.unt 8)

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augie wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:55 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:34 pm
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:17 pm
No point going for a "Wenger-lite" appointment. Five years ago that might have papered over the cracks. Now, we have to bring in someone completely different. Not Henry , Pv4, DB10 or anyone else with previous experience of playing for Wenger who might initially be welcomed but would run the risk of being inlufenced by a back-seat driver (as Moyes was when he took over at United).

My preference would be Simeone, with Allegri as reserve candidate.
You have to remember a lot of the old guard fell out with Wenger, PV4 for sure and I am sure DB10 also had a few words back in the day. Don't assume that just because they were tutored by Wenger they would turn out the same style of manager. For sure DB10 and PV4 don't suffer from fools gladly.



Over the past few years the only main ex-players that havent come out in support of the senile c.unt, has been PV4 and DB10 8) TA6 and merse (amongst others) have critcisied him and then defended him (or vice versa), and others (wankbag keown) have always defended him, but at no stage has PV4 and DB10 defended the c.unt 8)

I still think the Arsenal legends Vs Milan legends was a "testimonial" match for Wenger's 20 years of service but the club wouldn't have dared advertised it as such. I only say that because of the way he made himself accessible to the punters in a way he never does on fan days.
It was noticeable who turned up and played for the legends and who didn't. DB10, PV4, TA6, TH14 were noticeable by their absence. These are the people we should be looking at to replace him. Not so much TA6, ambassador role, but the other 3 for sure should be considered.

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One of the few intelligent things Merse ever said was that quite often the reason great players don't make great managers is they get frustrated by players not being at the same technical level they were at themself when they were players.

Additional. I'm pretty sure DB10 has gone on record saying he wants to only be a coach and has no interest in management.

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augie wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:55 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:34 pm
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:17 pm
No point going for a "Wenger-lite" appointment. Five years ago that might have papered over the cracks. Now, we have to bring in someone completely different. Not Henry , Pv4, DB10 or anyone else with previous experience of playing for Wenger who might initially be welcomed but would run the risk of being inlufenced by a back-seat driver (as Moyes was when he took over at United).

My preference would be Simeone, with Allegri as reserve candidate.
You have to remember a lot of the old guard fell out with Wenger, PV4 for sure and I am sure DB10 also had a few words back in the day. Don't assume that just because they were tutored by Wenger they would turn out the same style of manager. For sure DB10 and PV4 don't suffer from fools gladly.



Over the past few years the only main ex-players that haven't come out in support of the senile c.unt, has been PV4 and DB10 8) TA6 and merse (amongst others) have criticised him and then defended him (or vice versa), and others (wankbag keown) have always defended him, but at no stage has PV4 and DB10 defended the c.unt 8)

They are never going to get into a position to be offered a managers job if they are seen to be wading into AW/Arsenal in the media, are they.

When you go for a job at a company that you have admired for years it doesn't matter what industry you work in, slagging the incumbent management isn't the right approach. Besides, PV4 has said very little about Arsenal since he left, you would think that he was a City not Arsenal legend.

Quite a naive line of thinking imo.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:38 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:55 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:34 pm
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:17 pm
No point going for a "Wenger-lite" appointment. Five years ago that might have papered over the cracks. Now, we have to bring in someone completely different. Not Henry , Pv4, DB10 or anyone else with previous experience of playing for Wenger who might initially be welcomed but would run the risk of being inlufenced by a back-seat driver (as Moyes was when he took over at United).

My preference would be Simeone, with Allegri as reserve candidate.
You have to remember a lot of the old guard fell out with Wenger, PV4 for sure and I am sure DB10 also had a few words back in the day. Don't assume that just because they were tutored by Wenger they would turn out the same style of manager. For sure DB10 and PV4 don't suffer from fools gladly.



Over the past few years the only main ex-players that haven't come out in support of the senile c.unt, has been PV4 and DB10 8) TA6 and merse (amongst others) have criticised him and then defended him (or vice versa), and others (wankbag keown) have always defended him, but at no stage has PV4 and DB10 defended the c.unt 8)

They are never going to get into a position to be offered a managers job if they are seen to be wading into AW/Arsenal in the media, are they.

When you go for a job at a company that you have admired for years it doesn't matter what industry you work in, slagging the incumbent management isn't the right approach. Besides, PV4 has said very little about Arsenal since he left, you would think that he was a City not Arsenal legend.

Quite a naive line of thinking imo.



By me or PV4 ? :?

I dont remember PV4 saying a whole lot about citeeh, so I'm not sure where that last line came from :roll:

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Bunting14 wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:11 pm
Yeah I get the points you make but surely the last thing any manager coming in wants is AW upstairs looming over them? not sure AW would accept that either, he either wants complete control or he will leave so don't see that happening..............hopefully!!
I think Howe would want to be his own man putting his own mark down, there is nothing to say that Ancelotti wont lose a few games and have pressure anyway, that's just part of the job these days unfortunately, lose 2 games and you are in a crisis!
[/quote]Of course if he stays on upstairs and the new manager leaves for whatever reason, such as loses a game or has enough of interference who better to come to the rescue than Wenger :D
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AW to the rescue...mate....NOT funny STOP it! :shock:

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:55 pm
ESPN Reporting Low is favorite http://www.espn.com/soccer/arsenal/stor ... er-sources
Not my first second or third choice but fuck me sideways I'd still take him in the blink of an eye.

....as Spuddy did to Bubba in cell block D. :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:35 am
Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:55 pm
ESPN Reporting Low is favorite http://www.espn.com/soccer/arsenal/stor ... er-sources
Not my first second or third choice but fuck me sideways I'd still take him in the blink of an eye.

....as Spuddy did to Bubba in cell block D. :wink:
I wish I could believe all that I read my old China!
But when I see a sentence that states "he should prioritise the League Cup" I think here we go again!
Fake News Trumpy!..

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What a masterclass of management by Allegri last night. Put on an attacking performance which won a very tough game. He is the man we should get if we wanted success.
When you look at managers like Mourinho and Conte that are masters of dull defensive football which has taken hold of the PL.
Pep on the other hand has managed to bring brilliant attacking football back. Wenger I think has tried to be defensive but doesn't have a clue.
Yes Allegri proved his class last night

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supergeorgegraham wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:26 am
What a masterclass of management by Allegri last night. Put on an attacking performance which won a very tough game. He is the man we should get if we wanted success.
When you look at managers like Mourinho and Conte that are masters of dull defensive football which has taken hold of the PL.
Pep on the other hand has managed to bring brilliant attacking football back. Wenger I think has tried to be defensive but doesn't have a clue.
Yes Allegri proved his class last night
Really impressive from Allegri last night.

I would definitely take him ... but I wonder how long it would be before he could instill that into our players or how quickly he would be able to get players in who could play like that.

It couldnt happen overnight. And while most of us on here would be patient the Wenger loyalists who remain would no doubt be on his case and the split in our crowd will continue. I fear our support will never be unified again. The damage Wenger has done could last for years after he goes.

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supergeorgegraham wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:26 am
What a masterclass of management by Allegri last night. Put on an attacking performance which won a very tough game. He is the man we should get if we wanted success.
When you look at managers like Mourinho and Conte that are masters of dull defensive football which has taken hold of the PL.
Pep on the other hand has managed to bring brilliant attacking football back. Wenger I think has tried to be defensive but doesn't have a clue.
Yes Allegri proved his class last night



I would agree with much of that, but from recent reports from different juve games I do worry if he might be a little TOO defensive - there is no team in world football that needs defensive coaching and structure more than the rabble that we have right now, so we need what he can bring to the table. I also wonder if he has juve playing so defensively because he believes that he has no choice - that juve team (and especially the defence) are way beyond the limits of being called veterans, and maybe he feels that they need protection because of that :rubchin:

I also think that a serious bid for his services would net a positive outcome in the summer - he has to be looking at that team right now and acknowledge the HUGE rebuilding job ahead when those vets go. Btw has anybody heard about the story that he is supposed to have made comments some time in recent days that beating the sperz scum will show that he was right to turn down a move to AFC ? :?

Can I also say that the hoffenheim coach is the latest name to be thrown about, and tbh it is a suggestion that intrigues me - he is a young coach doing an outstanding job in germany and might be worth a shot here

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