Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

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Who Do YOU Want As Next Arsenal Manager

Ancelotti
27
21%
Tuchel
1
1%
Allegri
62
49%
PV4
7
6%
Enrique
3
2%
Jardim
6
5%
Nagelsmann
1
1%
Rodgers
1
1%
Arteta
4
3%
Others
15
12%
 
Total votes: 127

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Ernie71
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Re: Your Choice As Manager

Post by Ernie71 »

We were continually told be careful what you wish for.But we wished for a top class manager who has won titles in the last 5 years and done well in the CL.Not a manager who has never managed one minute of football in his life. Sitting next to a great manager Pep on the bench doesnt make you a good manager yourself.Just look at Kidd McLaren and Phelan after they left United.

Arsenal have been a basket case club in the last few years under Wenger now we will be a full blown train crash.I give Arteta one season like Rioch.

Allegri will go to Chelsea. To join Guardiola and Klopp as managers we failed to get

LeftfootlegendGooner
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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:27 pm
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:36 pm
Redarmy wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:13 pm
Wilson wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 11:16 am
Redarmy wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:45 am
Blimey the names being mentioned here...Simeone, Enriqe, Allegri.....in my opinion it won't happen

Ok know the salary is around £9 million a year least thats what Wenger was on, these fuckers are already rich

But seriously what established top manager will want this job.... would be a career breaker

They are a fucking laughing stock....squad is shambles...what is the budget?

Realistically will be Viera or Arteta or someone of that calibre....untried at top level basically
Ill accept Patrick Vieira, but Arteta taking over would be troll level 1000
Yes who knows what Viera would do?....sneaky feeling it will be Arteta though....that watch he bought Gazidis could really pay off
Time will tell :wink:

I guess we'll have to Watch out for that. :wink:
Let's Face it you would have to Hand it to him if it did :D

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Post by Jock Gooner »

LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 5:24 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:27 pm
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:36 pm
Redarmy wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:13 pm
Wilson wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 11:16 am


Ill accept Patrick Vieira, but Arteta taking over would be troll level 1000
Yes who knows what Viera would do?....sneaky feeling it will be Arteta though....that watch he bought Gazidis could really pay off
Time will tell :wink:

I guess we'll have to Watch out for that. :wink:
Let's Face it you would have to Hand it to him if it did :D
Perhaps they will Crown him at Dial square :cry:

LeftfootlegendGooner
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Post by LeftfootlegendGooner »

Jock Gooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 5:35 pm
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 5:24 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:27 pm
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:36 pm
Redarmy wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:13 pm


Yes who knows what Viera would do?....sneaky feeling it will be Arteta though....that watch he bought Gazidis could really pay off
Time will tell :wink:

I guess we'll have to Watch out for that. :wink:
Let's Face it you would have to Hand it to him if it did :D
Perhaps they will Crown him at Dial square :cry:
Is that a wind up :lol:

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OneBardGooner
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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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Actually that did Spring to mind. :D

LeftfootlegendGooner
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OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 6:02 pm
Actually that did Spring to mind. :D
I knew you'd be on the case :barscarf:

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MrT
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Would the club really sack the old staff if someone like Arteta was coming in? I would have thought he would want to keep some familiar faces of the useless old regime around.

I was open to the idea of Arteta before Wenger was sacked but thinking about it now, it would be an awful decision. He was an average player and an average captain. Putting out cones for Pep does not make you a qualified candidate for the job. The players won't respect him, they will treat him like a former colleague and not a respected manager.

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Yet again this board (well Kroenke basically) is about to let us down, just like they have been doing for the last 5+ years, this is a very good demonstration of what ambition the club has, on one hand we have the best available manager in world football, tactically astute, radically different from Wenger's style, but it would take a real show of intent to get him - he would likely demand a hefty budget and assurances of support from the board.

On the other hand we have a complete rookie novice, a decent player but certainly not an "Arsenal legend", he would very likely accept working under stricter contstraints and be far less demanding of the owner/board, most importantly of course he would probably be easy to get and cheap.

We all know which way this is going...

:banghead: :censored: :cussing: :roll:

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sk-gtfo wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 7:17 pm
Yet again this board (well Kroenke basically) is about to let us down, just like they have been doing for the last 5+ years, this is a very good demonstration of what ambition the club has, on one hand we have the best available manager in world football, tactically astute, radically different from Wenger's style, but it would take a real show of intent to get him - he would likely demand a hefty budget and assurances of support from the board.

On the other hand we have a complete rookie novice, a decent player but certainly not an "Arsenal legend", he would very likely accept working under stricter contstraints and be far less demanding of the owner/board, most importantly of course he would probably be easy to get and cheap.

We all know which way this is going...

:banghead: :censored: :cussing: :roll:

We certainly do. After sacking his experienced and highly unsuccessful manager at the LA Rams in his fifth year - no ten year wait for action there! - he appointed a 30 year old rookie coach who had an excellent first season......I think we can forget about an Allegri or an Enrique guys :shock:

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Midz
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Post by Midz »

Look er, I believe overall that the decision for a new manager will drag on at a snail's pace after AW leaves leaving the media plenty of opportunity for false speculation, and eventually the club will announce a Rioch type appointment which will leave most people disappointed.

I might be wrong we'll have to wait and see.

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 7:54 pm
sk-gtfo wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 7:17 pm
Yet again this board (well Kroenke basically) is about to let us down, just like they have been doing for the last 5+ years, this is a very good demonstration of what ambition the club has, on one hand we have the best available manager in world football, tactically astute, radically different from Wenger's style, but it would take a real show of intent to get him - he would likely demand a hefty budget and assurances of support from the board.

On the other hand we have a complete rookie novice, a decent player but certainly not an "Arsenal legend", he would very likely accept working under stricter contstraints and be far less demanding of the owner/board, most importantly of course he would probably be easy to get and cheap.

We all know which way this is going...

:banghead: :censored: :cussing: :roll:

We certainly do. After sacking his experienced and highly unsuccessful manager at the LA Rams in his fifth year - no ten year wait for action there! - he appointed a 30 year old rookie coach who had an excellent first season......I think we can forget about an Allegri or an Enrique guys :shock:



To be fair, you are talking about a completely different power structure in nfl than what we are used to in football - in the nfl the general managers make the decisions on who to hire/fire and the owner just has to sign off on it, which is not how things work over here (at the mo). The rams GM is a 47 year old, and that would be viewed as relatively young for a GM, so I would suggest that it would make sense for him to want to go with a young head coach - for starters young professionals believe that they are more in tune with latest ideas in the game, but secondly the last thing any young GM would want is an older head coach whose reputation and presence dwarfs him and threatens him (in the same kind of way that none of us would want wenker moving into the boardroom to intimidate future coaches).

Anyway, I have to believe that gazidas KNOWS how big this appointment will be for him personally - if he gets this wrong then the wrath of the fans will come down on him in a huge way from both sides of the wob and akb divide, and I think that he will want to make a big appointment (allegri. enrique, ancelotti) or a popular appointment (PV4), and I do believe he will know that arteta falls into neither category.

Also have to say that IF reports of a backroom clean out are true, then it is unlikely that someone like arteta is getting the job - any half clued in manager would know how vital it is to surround yourself with people who know how you work and who you can trust, and I think that next manager has his own backroom staff coming with him

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

Post by SydneyGooner »

http://www.espnfc.com.au/arsenal/story/ ... ay-parlour

Rafa Benitez?

I would take him over Arteta all day.

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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Arteta incoming, you heard it here 1st

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

Post by Jock Gooner »

augie wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:41 am
Jock Gooner wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 7:54 pm
sk-gtfo wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 7:17 pm
Yet again this board (well Kroenke basically) is about to let us down, just like they have been doing for the last 5+ years, this is a very good demonstration of what ambition the club has, on one hand we have the best available manager in world football, tactically astute, radically different from Wenger's style, but it would take a real show of intent to get him - he would likely demand a hefty budget and assurances of support from the board.

On the other hand we have a complete rookie novice, a decent player but certainly not an "Arsenal legend", he would very likely accept working under stricter contstraints and be far less demanding of the owner/board, most importantly of course he would probably be easy to get and cheap.

We all know which way this is going...

:banghead: :censored: :cussing: :roll:

We certainly do. After sacking his experienced and highly unsuccessful manager at the LA Rams in his fifth year - no ten year wait for action there! - he appointed a 30 year old rookie coach who had an excellent first season......I think we can forget about an Allegri or an Enrique guys :shock:



To be fair, you are talking about a completely different power structure in nfl than what we are used to in football - in the nfl the general managers make the decisions on who to hire/fire and the owner just has to sign off on it, which is not how things work over here (at the mo). The rams GM is a 47 year old, and that would be viewed as relatively young for a GM, so I would suggest that it would make sense for him to want to go with a young head coach - for starters young professionals believe that they are more in tune with latest ideas in the game, but secondly the last thing any young GM would want is an older head coach whose reputation and presence dwarfs him and threatens him (in the same kind of way that none of us would want wenker moving into the boardroom to intimidate future coaches).

Anyway, I have to believe that gazidas KNOWS how big this appointment will be for him personally - if he gets this wrong then the wrath of the fans will come down on him in a huge way from both sides of the wob and akb divide, and I think that he will want to make a big appointment (allegri. enrique, ancelotti) or a popular appointment (PV4), and I do believe he will know that arteta falls into neither category.

Also have to say that IF reports of a backroom clean out are true, then it is unlikely that someone like arteta is getting the job - any half clued in manager would know how vital it is to surround yourself with people who know how you work and who you can trust, and I think that next manager has his own backroom staff coming with him

No problem with what you say. My concern is the nfl is what SS does know a bit about and where he has had success with a young coach he may well be prepared to roll the dice with us too. When you look at Sanllehi as a sort of General Manager and with Mislintat in place too now while we are still a long way short of the nfl set up with coaches who coach coaches....I feel there is sufficient scope for SS to opt for the cheaper option. We'll find out soon enough I guess.

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 10:44 am
Arteta incoming, you heard it here 1st



Are you claiming that as an exclusive mc ? :lol: :lol:

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