We didn't move from Highbury to be 6th


It's difficult to compare the two as football has moved on so much but suffice to say that neither 6th or 18th is good enough for our club. The fans of my age/era who stood on the NB and in A.Rd outside the ground to call for Neil's head have aged and what I was prepared to do in my teens I am not necessarily going to do in later life. I would imagine there are plenty of others of a similar outlook. Certainly a lot of the guys where I sit have wanted TOF out for years and some folk understandably won't get into it all because of how divisive it is. I have said before that change achieved through the apathy of 5 - 10k leaving their seats empty for a few games is a sad indictment of where football is at.herbert wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 4:38 pmNeil's Arsenal were 18th and just been knocked out of the cup by Walsall,it took no more than a couple of thousand to shout there anger outside and inside the old girl and the board acted
No way would Wenger get any lower than we have without the people who matter turning on him(majority of season ticket holders) and membership attending supporters
6th is the modern 18th
What did for Neill was losing two semis the season before and the early season defeats to United and Liverpool at Highbury, Walsall was just the straw that led to his departure given what happened 50 years before. The protests after that game probably just pushed him over the edge he was teetering on, he was going any way.Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 5:15 pm
Neil's Arsenal were 18th and just been knocked out of the cup by Walsall,it took no more than a couple of thousand to shout there anger outside and inside the old girl and the board acted
No way would Wenger get any lower than we have without the people who matter turning on him(majority of season ticket holders) and membership attending supporters
6th is the modern 18th
6 years ago there was nobody who had the power to sack him.arrgee wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 5:33 pmWhat did for Neill was losing two semis the season before and the early season defeats to United and Liverpool at Highbury, Walsall was just the straw that led to his departure given what happened 50 years before. The protests after that game probably just pushed him over the edge he was teetering on, he was going any way.Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 5:15 pm
Neil's Arsenal were 18th and just been knocked out of the cup by Walsall,it took no more than a couple of thousand to shout there anger outside and inside the old girl and the board acted
No way would Wenger get any lower than we have without the people who matter turning on him(majority of season ticket holders) and membership attending supporters
6th is the modern 18th
Wenger has always somehow managed to spin the disasters and not let them take him down. 2-8, 1-5, 1-6, 0-6 are the sort of results that no top manager should experience more than once or twice, yet on 7 occassions that's what Arsenal did yet Wenger somehow survived. Amazed he wasn't sacked six years ago.
Whittaker is to Chapman what Paisley is to Shankly. Both just carried on from their predecessors. Chapman is possibly the greatest football manager ever. It is not just the trophies he won, it is his influence on football (white balls, numbered shirts, floodlights) and how he made Arsenal what they are (white sleeves, marble halls, tube station). He turned Arsenal from a go nowhere club into the greatest club in the world in a decade.herbert wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pmThe Chapman derby ,A match many will associate with the Arsenals 2 greatest managers but since the news that he is leaving hit us I have been googling and wikipidingthe history of our managers and Tom Whittaker has a claim to that title
he won 2 league titles when he took over from GA after the war but if you dig deep enough the 2 titles we won before war broke out he was assistant to GA who apparently only dealt with the media and contracts ,Tom was the coach of the players and most of them gave him the credit for them titles+so its 4 for Tommy
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That would be greatrodders999 wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 3:11 pmGood fucking riddance and he gets a giant FUCK OFF from me.
And let’s hope that every window licking AKB dickhead that’s enabled this cluster fuck for so many years pisses off with him.
Fuck being gracious or singing his name or giving him thanks. FUCK HIM![]()
Yep ,the one question I would love to ask him? why the white sleeves? read a few different versions and would hope its the golf story thats correctarrgee wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 7:04 pmWhittaker is to Chapman what Paisley is to Shankly. Both just carried on from their predecessors. Chapman is possibly the greatest football manager ever. It is not just the trophies he won, it is his influence on football (white balls, numbered shirts, floodlights) and how he made Arsenal what they are (white sleeves, marble halls, tube station). He turned Arsenal from a go nowhere club into the greatest club in the world in a decade.herbert wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pmThe Chapman derby ,A match many will associate with the Arsenals 2 greatest managers but since the news that he is leaving hit us I have been googling and wikipidingthe history of our managers and Tom Whittaker has a claim to that title
he won 2 league titles when he took over from GA after the war but if you dig deep enough the 2 titles we won before war broke out he was assistant to GA who apparently only dealt with the media and contracts ,Tom was the coach of the players and most of them gave him the credit for them titles+so its 4 for Tommy
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Seconded. Going out with 8 away defeats on the bounce would be fitting.SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 6:44 pmLess than 48 hours and it'll all be over. The shittest of shit seasons, the end of Le Bumhole and hopefully calamitous defending
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On the contrary to what has been said before I want Shit for Brains to end up with zero away points in 2018, and a new manager to show how fucking easy it is by winning the very next away game. Another nail in the myth burying coffin
Sorry mate but those seasons were 16 and 14 years ago - a lifetime in top level football. Since then Wenger has regularly plumbed depths never seen by an Arsenal manager - 8-2, 10-2, 6-0, 6-3 etc - 7 away defeats in a row - 22 European failures. The list is endless!!herbert wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 12:24 pmThe planes on both sides are a big no from me
Singing his name I have no problem with
The away defeats hurt and it's not good enough but remember that we went 2
Title winning seasons without an away defeat, that's football
He is going,let those of us who want to say goodbye do it without being labelled
100% agreedarrgee wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 7:04 pmWhittaker is to Chapman what Paisley is to Shankly. Both just carried on from their predecessors. Chapman is possibly the greatest football manager ever. It is not just the trophies he won, it is his influence on football (white balls, numbered shirts, floodlights) and how he made Arsenal what they are (white sleeves, marble halls, tube station). He turned Arsenal from a go nowhere club into the greatest club in the world in a decade.herbert wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pmThe Chapman derby ,A match many will associate with the Arsenals 2 greatest managers but since the news that he is leaving hit us I have been googling and wikipidingthe history of our managers and Tom Whittaker has a claim to that title
he won 2 league titles when he took over from GA after the war but if you dig deep enough the 2 titles we won before war broke out he was assistant to GA who apparently only dealt with the media and contracts ,Tom was the coach of the players and most of them gave him the credit for them titles+so its 4 for Tommy
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14 and 16 yrs ago it is still an experience that only a few supporters will ever have we had it twice but 7 or 8 or loads more away defeats has and will continue to be an experience for many supporters ,it hurts but I wont let it eat away at meJumpers For Goalposts wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 7:34 pmSorry mate but those seasons were 16 and 14 years ago - a lifetime in top level football. Since then Wenger has regularly plumbed depths never seen by an Arsenal manager - 8-2, 10-2, 6-0, 6-3 etc - 7 away defeats in a row - 22 European failures. The list is endless!!herbert wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 12:24 pmThe planes on both sides are a big no from me
Singing his name I have no problem with
The away defeats hurt and it's not good enough but remember that we went 2
Title winning seasons without an away defeat, that's football
He is going,let those of us who want to say goodbye do it without being labelled
You'd need a Sony Betamax to watch any of Wenger's big successes.
So many current managers have achieved more recent success than Wenger. Even Rafa Benitez won the Champions League in 2005, got to the final in 2007, the semi final in 2008 and won the Europa League in 2013.
Wenger has humiliated us by putting his own needs and wishes ahead of what is right for the Club and for that reason alone I will never forgive him.