Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

[northbank123]

Let’s be honest, Arteta was a bit of a no-mark as a top level footballer. Won a league and a league cup with Rangers and an fa cup with us - that was his career. He was a consistent (if unspectacular) performer for two years and then like so many others ended up a bit of an embarrassment, being wheeled out long after his legs had gone.

Doesn’t mean he can’t be a good manager but the only reason you would contemplate giving somebody with zero managerial experience a top job is if they had shown as a player they knew how to lead people and win trophies.

To be honest you’d have to be fucking deranged t think it was possibly a remotely decent idea to appoint anybody who has been involved in the last decade under Wenger. Not least a ‘club captain’ (whatever the fuck that means around here any more) who will be forever grateful to the bloke and thinks that the club is Arsene FC.

If we are going to go for an uninspired appointment then surely Benitez would fit the bill.

Arteta would honestly be the worst fucking appointment I could conceivably imagine.

[GoonerMuzz]

I don't get some people indicating that Arteta might not be so bad, just think about it, if any of the 5 clubs above us, never mind some of the clubs below us, were saying they would be appointing a manager with no experience and only 18 months as a coach we'd be ripping the piss out of them.

We're the fucking Arsenal for christ sake not fucking Accrington Stanley, we're one of the top 10 richest clubs in the world but we can't find the funding to meet the demands of the top managers out there.... it's beyond fucking embarrassing if we end up with someone like Nagelsmann, as good as he may be, never mind Mikel Arteta

I hope to god we get a top class manager but i genuinely get the feeling that this board will settle for a safe, tame, controllable puppet rather than bet on a Manager who wont accept mediocrity and will ask difficult questions of them and expect proper backing and support.

[StuartL]

Its becoming apparent we are not moving hard for a top line manager. And it really does seem Arteta could win the lottery and get a job he is not worthy of. Im absolutely aghast at the idea of him being manager. When Wenger said he was leaving, it was finally a chance for a new & clean break. However Arteta as manager is some sort of cruel joke. He was an under performing player and the shittest captain we ever had. He was part of the mad dash following the 8-2 thrashing & was a piss poor Cesc replacement. The media refer to him as an Arsenal great which is so bizarre considering he was an Arsenal disaster. In what world does this Arsenal board think the fans would accept Arteta? He was one of Wenger's merry men, morons who think sideways and backwards passing is possession football. He lacked work ethic and as a push over in midfield. He was weak and was dis-possesed twice in one half in that lead to 2 of Chelsea's 6 goals in Wengers 1000th game. He is the type of player that was indicative of our decling state

Im absolutely stunned that following a popular decision to remove a very unpopular manager, this board would appoint someone who has no pedigree, no respect & no worthiness. Arteta never played for Spain, and the biggest club he played for was us, and even still he was a panic buy.

If the club want to go down this route, then give it to fuking paddy, because he actually was a great captain and midfielder, has pedigree, respect and worthiness. The fans will love him and get behind him more than we could Arteta. Please just give it to Paddy, because Arteta will be a permanent disaster from start to end = Gary Neville at Valancia

Jesus that is some of the worst most ill informed revisionist horseshit I've ever read on here - and that's saying something. Arteta was our most consistent player for the first two seasons we had him until his legs went. Not his fault Wenger played him long after he had peaked, that's what Wenger does.

I still would never want him as manager but that has nothing to do with his playing career.

Are you kidding me? We wouldnt have even bought him if United didn't thrash us 8-2. He was a typical Wenger player, soft & sold on the idea that possession football is the foremost way forward.

He never played for Spain. Not even one cap. I know Spain had strength in their midfield, but do not get one cap in his entire career - the Spanish can distinguish between the wannabee tika taka from the real thing. Arteta was a tika tika enthusiast, but not a specialist.

When he was named captain, I was aghast, and know here we are, the prospect of giving the mangers job to a complete novice. We need to be more hostile to people like Arteta. I wont even give him a chance if he is named manager, form day one ill already be ''Arteta out''

Why we bought him does not come into it. Caps for Spain does not come into it. The simple fact is if you had actually watched those games in Arteta's first two seasons, you would know he was our most consistent player. Not a world beater, not the best in the PL, but he consistently played the DM role well, anticipating and positioning like a good DM should. He was even praised as such by nearly everyone on here of all places ffs. Arteta wasn't a tippy tappy player, he was a deep sitting DM that anticipated the play, and distributed the ball to others to go off and tippy tappy. He had a very simple role in the team and was good at it. Then his legs went and typical Wenger played him well past his best.

You also don't seem to grasp that a top player does not necessarily make a top manager and a shit or average player does not necessarily make a shit manager. Forget their playing careers. Our next manager needs to be a top manager with vast experience and a sense of pragmatism to have any hope of sorting out the mess Wenger left behind.

I can remember one match v West Ham when they were playing everything up to Carroll, to control on his chest.
Arteta recognised this and dropped so deep he was marking Carroll from the front and stopped the supply completely.
Not saying he was a fantastic player for us, but think he may well have a football brain on him and he was prepared to sacrifice his game for the good of the team.
Not my choice for the job, hope we are aiming higher

[nut flush gooner]

Ohh dear Arteta and Brendan Rodgers are now favourites.

I wonder what makes bookmakers actually decide to offer close to odds-on for Allegri to join us, perhaps its just an excuse to get people to lump large amounts of money on something that was never going to happen in the first place. Wishful thinking of me to even expect it.

I smell a right royal fuck up by Arsenal brewing.

[1989]

Arteta does seem an intelligent bloke however we need the finished article at the moment not some novice with zero managerial experience.

[RobG]

Hmmm....bit worried about Arteta have to say. Don’t rule out this Nagelsmann character. Saw him as the proverbial dark horse from day one. Mislintat clearly knows him. Per would work with him. He would be affordable. Might get Ozil to show up game to game ?Could be...

[northbank123]

At least with somebody like Nagelsmann you will get a bloke trying to bring in his own ideas.

With a fully signed-up member of the Arsene cult like Arteta you’ll just get more of the same powderpuff bollocks. Won’t make tough calls, doesn’t know how to instil a different philosophy, no experience.

Might as well appoint Steve fucking Bould.

[RobG]

At least with somebody like Nagelsmann you will get a bloke trying to bring in his own ideas.

With a fully signed-up member of the Arsene cult like Arteta you’ll just get more of the same powderpuff bollocks. Won’t make tough calls, doesn’t know how to instil a different philosophy, no experience.

Might as well appoint Steve fucking Bould.

Agreed

It’s all guessing at the moment. Only thing I would be definite on, is it won’t be Rogers.

Not that he is a bad Manager but he is not the fit for us. It would be the Board taking a pole axe to the fan base if they appointed him. They wouldn’t do it.

[GoonerMuzz]

At least with somebody like Nagelsmann you will get a bloke trying to bring in his own ideas.

With a fully signed-up member of the Arsene cult like Arteta you’ll just get more of the same powderpuff bollocks. Won’t make tough calls, doesn’t know how to instil a different philosophy, no experience.

Might as well appoint Steve fucking Bould.

I'm not saying Nagelsmann wouldn't be a good manager but lets be honest he is not one person on heres first choice any more than Arteta would be.

The new Manager has a right royal fucking mess to reorganise here and it will take considerable gravitas to sort it out, not only does he have to sort out the squad of players we have he also has to attract the best talent he can with only EL football to offer. I'm not sure Nagelsmann will be able to do so which means he has to fall back on the players we currently have in the main or will only attract a lower level of footballer in comparison to Allegri or other top managers.

We finished 37 points behind Shitty, 18 points behind the Manc Scum and 14 points behind the Spuds, those are big numbers considering where we are and with the possible exception of Spuds i expect all the teams above and some behind us to strengthen considerably over the summer, we need to attract players to a club that may seem unattractive for various reasons this summer, a lesser known manager dealing with our problems might struggle more than a really top class one.

[mcdowell42]

According to the Telegraph, while Arteta is now the favourite to succeed Wenger, #Arsenal also remain interested in Nagelsmann & could also speak to Leonardo Jardim before making an appointment.

[Gunner Rob]

With the names now being talked about I really don’t know why we don’t just go for someone like Sean Dyche. Chris Sutton mentioned this on radio 5 earlier - he also absolutely slated possibly appointing Arteta.

[GoonerMuzz]

With the names now being talked about I really don’t know why we don’t just go for someone like Sean Dyche. Chris Sutton mentioned this on radio 5 earlier - he also absolutely slated possibly appointing Arteta.

I'd rather Dyche than Arteta thats for sure, if for no other reason than as someone to teach our lot that defending is not a dirty word but again this would be an uninspiring appointment and we'd seriously struggle to attract the level of player we need to take us upward

[1989]

If not Allegri I'd definitely take Jardim. Plays great progressive football, developer of young players, able to work within a budget, and has winning experience (Ligue 1 winner in a league with PSG in it) and made the CL last four. Oversaw the development of top talents like Mbappe, Martial and Bernardo Silva.

[Nos89]

No mention of Pochettino on this thread.
If he walks out of Tottenham he must be a candidate for Wenger's replacement.

[Gudo]

All signs are now pointing to Mikel Arteta as the next Arsenal manager.