THE WENGER THREAD

[flash gunner]

Best to keep this bad boy open because when Brenda arrives with Arteta as his no. 2 you ungrateful bastards are gonna be yearning for the days of leeetle bit handbrake

I could even accept that scenario as long as arteta isnt manager

Are you 100% against from the get go Augie or would you be prepared to wipe the slate clean and see where we go under him? I won't lie I'll be disappointed if/when he's announced but once the dust has settled I'm willing to throw my weight behind him and the team and see what unfolds.

Underwhelming but who knows eh?

100% against from the get go - after years of decline under a guy that was way past his selly by date, expecting a guy with ZERO experience to sort it out, is a disgraceful decision and totally unacceptable to me

Totally agree with augie

[rodders999]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

[robbo10]

Good. Steve Bould next please, fuck the whole lot of them on the scrap heap.

Apparently Bould and Lehmann have being offered roles within the new setup,bould weighing up his options.

Bould weighing up his options I spat my coffee out at that one ,lets see those options .
1.Have a Job
2.Don't have a Job

7years of hand wringing experience under wenger is worth 10 mins as a boil on sam allardyces bottom or 30 seconds as pep g's toothpick !

More worryingly is that the manager has been decided and its Arteta ,otherwise Gazidis wouldn't be offering them Jobs !

Bould's options....are they the cones or the bibs?

[Jock Gooner]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

I can perfectly understand that view and agree that anything that isn't TOF is a step in the right direction..............but deep down didn't you expect just a little bit more?

Are we still the Arsenal, with aspirations or have we become just plain old Arsenal? There's that hope again.......

[robbo10]

Senderos (remember him? Nah me neither) has called Wenger "Mr Arsenal".

Absolute utter fucking cùntoid.

Senderos couldn't even lace Gus Caesar's boots that's how bad he was the useless c unt

True mate. I heard from a reliable source that Senderdross' nickname was "Ragdoll".




*by "reliable" I do of course mean Rodders.

[robbo10]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

I can perfectly understand that view and agree that anything that isn't TOF is a step in the right direction..............but deep down didn't you expect just a little bit more?

Are we still the Arsenal, with aspirations or have we become just plain old Arsenal? There's that hope again.......

Agree,Arsenal have a real chance here to aim high and set a standard with who they bring in,but will it be champagne aspirations with a lemonade budget? Maybe Arteta is the cheaper option and unlikely to go in with huge demands for players as he'll be a leetle grateful for such a big job,where-as a proper manager won't even entertain it because of the financial restraints we keep hearing about.

[augie]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

Believe me I know how you feel - I think that it is fair to say that I have wanted wenger gone longer than anyone else on here, so I know the suffering and pain he has inflicted on us The thing is though, that I wanted and expected more cos we are/were The Arsenal, and big clubs should demand more - now though it seems that we have waited a decade to start down the road to becoming a real force again, only to blow it by appointing a guy with zero managerial experience and an average playing career. Unacceptable to me

[SydneyGooner]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

That's exactly how I feel about it. If it is indeed Arteta (still crossing my fingers it's not) I'll get behind him for a couple seasons and just see how things pan out. Despite being a neophyte I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if we end up getting 70+ points with him in charge next season which would really show up Wenger for the busted flush that he is. I just hope Gazidis backs him in the transfer window because we'll need all the help we can get this summer trying to attract players.

[Jock Gooner]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

That's exactly how I feel about it. If it is indeed Arteta (still crossing my fingers it's not) I'll get behind him for a couple seasons and just see how things pan out. Despite being a neophyte I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if we end up getting 70+ points with him in charge next season which would really show up Wenger for the busted flush that he is. I just hope Gazidis backs him in the transfer window because we'll need all the help we can get this summer trying to attract players.

Fucking neophytes...... I hate fucking neophytes .......... Whats a fucking neophyte?

[Gunner Rob]

he nearly signed Ronaldo

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... t-12538140

[Herd]

I think a cone could coach this team to 70 points !

[VoiceOfReason]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

I think if the club had made the announcement: "Wenger has announced his departure, and Arteta is taking over" in the same breath, then I'd have been fucking delighted. But because we've had the best part of a month to speculate about the new manager, and with the news of Wenger leaving having had time to sink in, the news about Arteta now feels massively underwhelming.

It's also interesting/ridiculous that we've watched all the top clubs snap up managers a lot of us would have wanted - Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, Conte etc. - all the while Wenger stayed in the post, preventing them from joining us. But based on the recruitment process we're seeing, it seems that the board would never have gone in for this type of manager even if they were available. So in a sense, I feel less disappointed about having missed out on these genuinely good managers due to Wenger's refusal to leave - because based on what we're seeing, they wouldn't have joined us anyway.

Being hugely cynical, and not trusting the club one iota, I even wondered last night whether Wenger is secretly going to remain our manager, with Arteta brought in purely to play the role of 'new manager' to placate the fans/sponsors, while Arsene secretly pulls all the strings in the background. One way of luring back the 'Wenger Out' brigade and reuniting the fanbase without actually changing anything, and Arteta essentially 'coaches' as the number two while Wenger secretly oversees everything from a different position and tells him what to do. Would explain why Wenger doesn't have another job as well...

(The above is intended mostly in jest, yet I wouldn't 100% rule it out either...)

[DB10GOONER]

I just want to be positive as I've had enough negativity to do me a lifetime under Wenger. And yes I'm probably being blinded because I was so exasperated over the past few years that I lost all hope and basically just wanted anyone but Arsene and Arteta is just that - he is not Arsene Wenger.

That's how low I set the bar - just give me something bloody else other than this eternal purgatory. I'm now firmly in the wait and see camp, I'm not expecting much but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

I think if the club had made the announcement: "Wenger has announced his departure, and Arteta is taking over" in the same breath, then I'd have been fucking delighted. But because we've had the best part of a month to speculate about the new manager, and with the news of Wenger leaving having had time to sink in, the news about Arteta now feels massively underwhelming.

It's also interesting/ridiculous that we've watched all the top clubs snap up managers a lot of us would have wanted - Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, Conte etc. - all the while Wenger stayed in the post, preventing them from joining us. But based on the recruitment process we're seeing, it seems that the board would never have gone in for this type of manager even if they were available. So in a sense, I feel less disappointed about having missed out on these genuinely good managers due to Wenger's refusal to leave - because based on what we're seeing, they wouldn't have joined us anyway.

Being hugely cynical, and not trusting the club one iota, I even wondered last night whether Wenger is secretly going to remain our manager, with Arteta brought in purely to play the role of 'new manager' to placate the fans/sponsors, while Arsene secretly pulls all the strings in the background. One way of luring back the 'Wenger Out' brigade and reuniting the fanbase without actually changing anything, and Arteta essentially 'coaches' as the number two while Wenger secretly oversees everything from a different position and tells him what to do. Would explain why Wenger doesn't have another job as well...

(The above is intended mostly in jest, yet I wouldn't 100% rule it out either...)

It wouldn't surprise me tbh.....

[begeegs]

Being hugely cynical, and not trusting the club one iota, I even wondered last night whether Wenger is secretly going to remain our manager, with Arteta brought in purely to play the role of 'new manager' to placate the fans/sponsors, while Arsene secretly pulls all the strings in the background. One way of luring back the 'Wenger Out' brigade and reuniting the fanbase without actually changing anything, and Arteta essentially 'coaches' as the number two while Wenger secretly oversees everything from a different position and tells him what to do. Would explain why Wenger doesn't have another job as well...

(The above is intended mostly in jest, yet I wouldn't 100% rule it out either...)

You could expand that with the rest of the outgoing coaching staff. Effectively, to save cash on contracts, the Board have hired a puppet coaching staff with the illusion of the outgoing staff being sacked.

If you see any failed tiki-taka tactics with no positional awareness along with keystone cop defending, I think that you will know that this is the case.

[DB10GOONER]

I have to agree with Voice of Reason's point above that if the club had sacked Wenger and announced Arteta as new manager in the same breath then we'd all have been wànking with joy. Unfortunately they've let that opportunity slip and now most of us are crawling out from under the radioactive post-Wenger debris expecting a bright new day only to be greeted by a (probable) second nuclear strike....