Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

[augie]

Arteta story hots up, here's why I think it's a great idea (long read, but a fine one)

https://t.co/ocjhWIpKky


Taken from Legroveblog.

Used to read his blog every day until I realised that he was just another flip flopper who continually changed from pro-wenker to anti-wenker, and that his "followers" are a shower of knobs who seem more interested in racing each other to be the first to comment every single fcuking day Just look at some of the shite that he wrote -

On allegri

Also, though his football is tactically exciting, as Paul Merson mentioned, it takes us back to the George Graham era of football. Catching teams on the break with incisive counter-attacking football. I could live with it, but it’d be a sharp deviation from what we love. I appreciate there’s a lot of excitement about having a manager who can defend properly, but we don’t have to destroy our style in the process. Look at how United fans are dealing with Mourinho football. Who wants 2nd place that way? Also worth noting Allegri is taking English lessons. Small detail, but building out Arsenal and a new life whilst getting to grips with a new language is tough.

Do you think that he is a guy that supported AFC pre wenker ? Obviously not cos he refers to our style of football as a priority, which tells me that he is another style over substance akb fool As if that comment wasnt stupid enough, he then suggests that learning english whilst managing Arsenal is not compatible - oh sweet jesus what bullshit that is

On PV4

Patrick Vieira being on the list is an odd one. He’s not set the world alight in the US and he’s been working with average players. The fans obviously love him, but I’m not sure that’s enough to land the job.

in his 3 seasons with new york city every single season they have improved and are genuine challengers this season. Anyway his experience of working with average players should be a bonus considering that our squad is overloaded with them

On arteta

there are so many interesting facets around his star that make this potential move feel very exciting.
I’ll start with the easy one. Leadership is in his blood. He’s been the captain of two Premier League clubs, Everton, then Arsenal at a time where he needed to help stabilise us post-Cesc. I’m really not worried about him being overawed by the head coach role, some people just naturally gravitate towards responsibility and can lead. He’s clearly one of those people.

He doesnt know why PV4 would be considered, and yet he suggests that arteta's leadership values make him a great candidate - arteta doesnt possess a tenth of the leadership qualities PV4 has you muppet

More on arteta

Guardiola is desperate to keep hold of Arteta, who he considers pivotal to his backroom staff at City.

Kinda contradicts the comments from pep in his own press conferences where he said that he wouldnt stand in his way of leaving

More on arteta

They hit 100 points yesterday. That is insane. Arteta has been there from the start, he’s witnessed how you coach new ideas into players, he’s helped improve people like Sterling, he’s in the day to day. He has helped create history. He worked through the very average first season with Pep and helped fix it in the most spectacular way. Why would Arsenal not want to hire in someone with the hottest intellectual property in world football?

If you have any question of the intelligence of the guy that writes this blog, can I suggest that you read that last line again ? Arteta has the hottest intellectual property in world football ?? Based on what exactly ? Name me one other club, even a small or mid-table club that is interested in getting him as manager. I have heard of guilt by association before, but I have never heard that working with the best manager in the world will automatically make someone a genius

[sk-gtfo]

Arteta story hots up, here's why I think it's a great idea (long read, but a fine one)

https://t.co/ocjhWIpKky


Taken from Legroveblog.

Sources close to Allegri, who first revealed his interest in our exclusive TWO MONTHS ago, claim his ambitions have to be matched.

He will accept the job if Arsenal can take him to the levels he is used to at Juve, which include competing in the Champions League.

That quote alone says it all about our owner/board. We don't have his ambition and are quite happy to try a wildcard cheap option and finish 4th instead. I'm not even sure I want Arteta to be successful, unlikely anyway give the various factors against him, but it would just appease the weak minded who would then go easy on Kroenke for another decade and we'd never sustain 'success' under his ownership, it would be a Leicester type fluke that would just keep him around longer, hell bring on a disaster and lets get things really hotting up against the wiggy b*stard.

I just don't have any pride in this so called self-sustaining model we have, perhaps if we were fan majority owned or a local businessman with passion was trying their best then I would, even if we weren't that good, but because Kroenke wants a good 'asset' for his interests in the US to use a leverage?, where the f**k is the pride in that?.

Lucky Danny Fiszman died really because I think he'd be (rightly) getting a lot of flack right now for getting the club in to that wiggy b*stards hands.

[augie]

Arteta story hots up, here's why I think it's a great idea (long read, but a fine one)

https://t.co/ocjhWIpKky


Taken from Legroveblog.

Sources close to Allegri, who first revealed his interest in our exclusive TWO MONTHS ago, claim his ambitions have to be matched.

He will accept the job if Arsenal can take him to the levels he is used to at Juve, which include competing in the Champions League.

That quote alone says it all about our owner/board. We don't have his ambition and are quite happy to try a wildcard cheap option and finish 4th instead. I'm not even sure I want Arteta to be successful, unlikely anyway give the various factors against him, but it would just appease the weak minded who would then go easy on Kroenke for another decade and we'd never sustain 'success' under his ownership, it would be a Leicester type fluke that would just keep him around longer, hell bring on a disaster and lets get things really hotting up against the wiggy b*stard.

I just don't have any pride in this so called self-sustaining model we have, perhaps if we were fan majority owned or a local businessman with passion was trying their best then I would, even if we weren't that good, but because Kroenke wants a good 'asset' for his interests in the US to use a leverage?, where the f**k is the pride in that?.

Lucky Danny Fiszman died really because I think he'd be (rightly) getting a lot of flack right now for getting the club in to that wiggy b*stards hands.

This legrove knob suggested that it was sources close to allegri that have released these comments - nowhere else has it been said. I think most level headed Gooners already know that it is far more likely that this story was "leaked" by the club in an effort to explain why they hired a muppet to be our next manager

[sk-gtfo]

BREAKING: @Arsenal have contacted Patrick Vieira in last 24 hours but former Gunners midfielder feels call was a 'token gesture' and is disappointed, say Sky sources #SSN https://t.co/LSCre2usZi

Confirmation (as if it was needed) that PV4 would have swam from america to manage Arsenal - we could have got a top manager or we could have got a less experienced manager with real Arsenal blood in his veins, but instead we are employing a guy with zero managerial experience but spent his past it years playing for our club I know that I keep saying it, but it is really pissing me off to think that arteta is going to be our next manager, and making cazorla part of the coaching staff (another guy with zero experience) is only making the appointment worse

Hmmm seems odd we've contacted PV in "the last 24hrs", are the club getting cold feet over Arteta after seeing some of the reaction on social media etc.?. bit late now!.

[Retro Gunner]

BREAKING: @Arsenal have contacted Patrick Vieira in last 24 hours but former Gunners midfielder feels call was a 'token gesture' and is disappointed, say Sky sources #SSN https://t.co/LSCre2usZi

Confirmation (as if it was needed) that PV4 would have swam from america to manage Arsenal - we could have got a top manager or we could have got a less experienced manager with real Arsenal blood in his veins, but instead we are employing a guy with zero managerial experience but spent his past it years playing for our club I know that I keep saying it, but it is really pissing me off to think that arteta is going to be our next manager, and making cazorla part of the coaching staff (another guy with zero experience) is only making the appointment worse

Hmmm....maybe confirmation that we haven't been able to land any of the big boys and are now desperately sounding out the novices. What a circus this Club has become !

[begeegs]

It sounds to me that Arteta was always the choice all because the Parasite believes that Junior has hit on something good with other coaching choices with their other franchises. Although, I am pretty resigned to the decision and think that it is crazy (about as crazy as handing Wenger a 2 year deal last year), I will back the guy and hope that he does well. If he doesn't, I hope that people will hold fire on Arteta as he didn't appoint himself and focus on ridding the club of the wig-wearing parasite.

I don't think that Arteta will get loads of time with fans, but I don't think that he will get it from the fans. I think that the seats will go empty again and potentially, people actually may turn up for protests. There will be some unity for a change.

[begeegs]

This legrove knob suggested that it was sources close to allegri that have released these comments - nowhere else has it been said. I think most level headed Gooners already know that it is far more likely that this story was "leaked" by the club in an effort to explain why they hired a muppet to be our next manager

His posts over the past couple of days have been embarrassing. It sounded like some sort of paid-by-Gazidis advert with nothing of substance in either post.

That being said - agree with the point about Allergri being a political whitewash. I hoped that we'd appoint someone like that, but alas, I wonder if it was all for season ticket renewals.

It will be interesting to see what happens with renewals with this underwhelming appointment.

[Jock Gooner]

It sounds to me that Arteta was always the choice all because the Parasite believes that Junior has hit on something good with other coaching choices with their other franchises. Although, I am pretty resigned to the decision and think that it is crazy (about as crazy as handing Wenger a 2 year deal last year), I will back the guy and hope that he does well. If he doesn't, I hope that people will hold fire on Arteta as he didn't appoint himself and focus on ridding the club of the wig-wearing parasite.

I don't think that Arteta will get loads of time with fans, but I don't think that he will get it from the fans. I think that the seats will go empty again and potentially, people actually may turn up for protests. There will be some unity for a change.

I don't see Arteta as any sort of answer to our problems however as you say we have to back him in the first instance and see what he does.

More importantly I would like to think that you are right about the reaction if things go south with Arteta, surely that would be the cue for a concerted effort by the vast majority to rid the club of Kroenke.

[Jock Gooner]

Just goes to show you how out of touch these tossers on the board really are. Gazidis is embarrassingly desperate for a 'yes' man who he can control in the absence of appointing an experienced manager. Whilst we would have initially been a bit unsure about a PV4 appointment we would have got behind him and given it a right go. The guy was a warrior and a winner as a player and I'd like to think he could inspire - no guarantees I know - whereas I can't say the same about Arteta.

[CloakedGooner]

Arteta story hots up, here's why I think it's a great idea (long read, but a fine one)

https://t.co/ocjhWIpKky


Taken from Legroveblog.

You deluded MKB

[goonersid]

PV was my first choice from day 1 “a calculated gamble “ to find out the club are only contacting him now just sums us up!
I’ll give Arteta every chance and hopefully he’ll prove us doubters wrong

[Gunnersaurus]

That Le Grove has been a nauseating prick with his love for Arteta, he has nothing to base his OTT praise of him other than sitting next to Pep and Pep talking him up (shock, horror)

Augie, you nailed him with that post, how Arteta could be better qualified that Vieira is beyond me, neither are ideal but Vieira is far more advanced in his development now, he also has the legend status to buy him time, something Arteta will never be or have.

[mcdowell42]

The Mail claim #Arsenal's players have been told that it's 90% certain that the new manager will be Mikel Arteta. https://t.co/1PzkIMP46H

[Clash]

If it is Arteta then I hope he proves to be a good manager but I just cannot see it working out. I was feeling more hopeful for the future but this will make me really fucking angry.

I have to say that if the club do appoint Arteta then really they deserve to see it fail because right now we need experience, ambition and a different style of play. This is not the time to be cheap. Or to try and be clever and unconventional. We've had more than enough of that bullshit with Wenger

[GoonerMuzz]

If the club do appoint him it is a canny appointment from them, the Mob will be baying for Arteta's blood long before they even stop to consider who appointed him, and if push comes to shove and the bosses feel under pressure they can always call back the Messiah to 'save' the situation

It will beinteresting to see if AW takes a job or holds out to see what happens here