Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

[flash gunner]

The good thing is Arteta hasnt got the credit in the bank like Wenger did, one or two poor seasons and he'll be out and we can get a proper manager.

He is going to be the Bruce Rioch

[Redarmy]

Blimey the names being mentioned here...Simeone, Enriqe, Allegri.....in my opinion it won't happen

Ok know the salary is around £9 million a year least thats what Wenger was on, these fuckers are already rich

But seriously what established top manager will want this job.... would be a career breaker

They are a fucking laughing stock....squad is shambles...what is the budget?

Realistically will be Viera or Arteta or someone of that calibre....untried at top level basically

The question is who do you want, not who will the fucking idiot board appoint.

Sorry DB it was a strange question to start with, what we think as fans means nothing

Its like asking a man in a 9-5 job which super model he wants to marry.......its not going to happen

[wibble]

Bizarre that people still think of PV4 as a true Arsenal man and having Arsenal blood in his veins.... he spent the last few years of his time with us constantly aggitating and trying to wrangle a move to Real Madrid.

And don't run that old pony by me that "he saw through Wenger" because he left whilst Wenger was still delivering the goods. Honestly if anyone claims they thought Wenger should go before 2007 then they are a fucking bullshitter and a twat to boot.

PV4 was a great player but let's not kid ourselves about his loyalty.

As soon as we lost that game at old Trafford after our invincibles season I had my doubts tbh.

Remember chatting to Vieira about it at the time

[augie]

Bizarre that people still think of PV4 as a true Arsenal man and having Arsenal blood in his veins.... he spent the last few years of his time with us constantly aggitating and trying to wrangle a move to Real Madrid.

And don't run that old pony by me that "he saw through Wenger" because he left whilst Wenger was still delivering the goods. Honestly if anyone claims they thought Wenger should go before 2007 then they are a fucking bullshitter and a twat to boot.

PV4 was a great player but let's not kid ourselves about his loyalty.

It is well accepted that, even in those glory years, PV4 and wenger were not seeing eye to eye, and in the latter seasons they were barely talking to each other. Henry himself also came out and said last week that he and wenger didnt get on when he was a player for us.. Maybe both players seen through the fraud that wenger was, and wanted out. Most Gooners believe that it was the players that ran the team and dressing room at that time, and any top player would recognise that the dynamics in that system were all wrong.
I'll be honest and say that PV4 is in my top 3 or 4 AFC players of all time - he bust a gut for us every single week, even when there were rumours that he wanted out, and represented everything that I wanted to see from an AFC player. When he left, he had won everything that he was going to win with us, so I for one dont begrudge him looking for a new challenge - what I will say with absolute certainty, is that this half assed shit with some players, would not have gone on when PV4 was captain, and I am 100% certain that he would sort it out as manager too

[GoonerMuzz]

The simple fact is the club is toxic and is owned by a cùnt who only has ambition to make more money and now run on a day to day basis by a team of fucking lizards whose only ambition is keeping their spot at the trough.

Any big organisation is led from the top. The owner sets the tone, demands what he views as acceptable returns and dictates who does what and for how long they do it. We are poison from the very top. Our cùnt owner has no football ambition and that filtrates right down through the board.

PV4 would have been a huge risk as manager but Arteta is risk at an absolute ridiculous level. If he is appointed of course I'll give him a chance but I'd be amazed if we aren't rooted in mid table under him.

Our club is owned and run by cùnts.

This ^^, one of the issues i always had with the removal of Wenger was that we'd still be unambitious and go like for like and if the rumours are true it may yet come to pass. I fucking despise Wenger but i think if we have to go through the same thing with another manager it will kill any residual love i have for the club. I want to see ambition not risk aversion management.

If it is Arteta then he deserves all the support we can give him and i genuinely wish him all the success he can get but if it goes tits up how many years should he be retained ala Wenger and how long will it be before the muppets starting calling for the return of OGL to 'steady the ship'.

The purely footballing side of the club may be being restructured but those running the corporate side of the club remain the same. This worries me as much as who gets the managers job, because there is still the stink of money over success in all this.

[Bob Bayliss]

The good thing is Arteta hasnt got the credit in the bank like Wenger did, one or two poor seasons and he'll be out and we can get a proper manager.

He is going to be the Bruce Rioch

Who's for a drop of cheap Spanish.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kovywfP1BQw

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Bizarre that people still think of PV4 as a true Arsenal man and having Arsenal blood in his veins.... he spent the last few years of his time with us constantly aggitating and trying to wrangle a move to Real Madrid.

And don't run that old pony by me that "he saw through Wenger" because he left whilst Wenger was still delivering the goods. Honestly if anyone claims they thought Wenger should go before 2007 then they are a fucking bullshitter and a twat to boot.

PV4 was a great player but let's not kid ourselves about his loyalty.

Agreed

[Gunner Rob]

Arteta is going to be a disaster. May as well and just sit back and enjoy the continuation of the banter.

A serious fucking disaster!

if it unites the fanbase against Kroenke then bring it on !

[Gunner Rob]

Allardyce sacked !

come on Everton - announce Arteta

[Goonuz71]

Fat Sam now available .....be careful what you wish for

[rodders999]

Vieira is managing in a pub league full of has beens and never gonna be's - it's championship level at a push. He's about 0.00001% more qualified to be Arsenal manager than Arteta is. He'd get more leeway from the fans but that's about it.

[augie]

The simple fact is the club is toxic and is owned by a cùnt who only has ambition to make more money and now run on a day to day basis by a team of fucking lizards whose only ambition is keeping their spot at the trough.

Any big organisation is led from the top. The owner sets the tone, demands what he views as acceptable returns and dictates who does what and for how long they do it. We are poison from the very top. Our cùnt owner has no football ambition and that filtrates right down through the board.

PV4 would have been a huge risk as manager but Arteta is risk at an absolute ridiculous level. If he is appointed of course I'll give him a chance but I'd be amazed if we aren't rooted in mid table under him.

Our club is owned and run by cùnts.

This ^^, one of the issues i always had with the removal of Wenger was that we'd still be unambitious and go like for like and if the rumours are true it may yet come to pass. I fucking despise Wenger but i think if we have to go through the same thing with another manager it will kill any residual love i have for the club. I want to see ambition not risk aversion management.

If it is Arteta then he deserves all the support we can give him and i genuinely wish him all the success he can get but if it goes tits up how many years should he be retained ala Wenger and how long will it be before the muppets starting calling for the return of OGL to 'steady the ship'.

The purely footballing side of the club may be being restructured but those running the corporate side of the club remain the same. This worries me as much as who gets the managers job, because there is still the stink of money over success in all this.

Why does he deserve it ? I'm not saying that we shouldnt give him our support, but I am asking what he has done to deserve it ? Is he a proven quality manager ? No. Has he any managerial experience at all ? No. Is he a former great player for the club ? No. Does he have the type of qualities that we all believe will be needed to sort this club out ? No. Does he seem like the type of manager that will prioritise our shocking defence ? Not from what he said in a previous interview with the club magaine.

There is no justifiable reason why arteta would get this job, and giving it to him ranks as a decision every bit as bad as giving the french w**ker his last two contract extension in my opinion.

[g60gooner]

Weird goings on at Everton, getting rid of Fat sam??
It's like they listened to the discontent of the fans and then did something about it.
How novel.

[xisstential]

Arteta was a poor captain...he embodied everything Wenger looked for in a captain...quiet, lack of visible passion, no leadership qualities, undemonstrative. Wenger didn't berate or discipline his players, he sure as hell didn't want anyone else doing it.

Forget about Arteta's "captain" credentials...they are up there with Mertersacker's & Walcott's. He didn't lead the team and I don't think he'll be able to manage them.

I think back to the England rugby captain Martin Johnson....a towering figure and a magnificent leader...captained England to victory in the WC. But when he took over as manager he was terrible with England the most ill disciplined team at the WC . The players looked on Johnson as "one of them", not as their manager.

So if a natural born, formidable, respected leader like Jonson can't do it, how is Arteta going to??

[Redarmy]

The simple fact is the club is toxic and is owned by a cùnt who only has ambition to make more money and now run on a day to day basis by a team of fucking lizards whose only ambition is keeping their spot at the trough.

Any big organisation is led from the top. The owner sets the tone, demands what he views as acceptable returns and dictates who does what and for how long they do it. We are poison from the very top. Our cùnt owner has no football ambition and that filtrates right down through the board.

PV4 would have been a huge risk as manager but Arteta is risk at an absolute ridiculous level. If he is appointed of course I'll give him a chance but I'd be amazed if we aren't rooted in mid table under him.

Our club is owned and run by cùnts.

This ^^, one of the issues i always had with the removal of Wenger was that we'd still be unambitious and go like for like and if the rumours are true it may yet come to pass. I fucking despise Wenger but i think if we have to go through the same thing with another manager it will kill any residual love i have for the club. I want to see ambition not risk aversion management.

If it is Arteta then he deserves all the support we can give him and i genuinely wish him all the success he can get but if it goes tits up how many years should he be retained ala Wenger and how long will it be before the muppets starting calling for the return of OGL to 'steady the ship'.

The purely footballing side of the club may be being restructured but those running the corporate side of the club remain the same. This worries me as much as who gets the managers job, because there is still the stink of money over success in all this.

Why does he deserve it ? I'm not saying that we shouldnt give him our support, but I am asking what he has done to deserve it ? Is he a proven quality manager ? No. Has he any managerial experience at all ? No. Is he a former great player for the club ? No. Does he have the type of qualities that we all believe will be needed to sort this club out ? No. Does he seem like the type of manager that will prioritise our shocking defence ? Not from what he said in a previous interview with the club magaine.

There is no justifiable reason why arteta would get this job, and giving it to him ranks as a decision every bit as bad as giving the french w**ker his last two contract extension in my opinion.

No to all the above, but he did buy Gazidis a very nice watch apparently with the fines money....every office and workplace has one