Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

[Wilson]

Why Arteta though? Vieira and Henry are in the same boat experience wise but unlike Arteta, the fans could get behind two former legends.

They could not have picked someone less inspiring. Not only that, its succeed or fail. If they had picked a top manager and we didnt adjust, we could say alright Wenger didnt leave the team is the best state and it will take time. But with Arteta, there is no goodwill or trust - so as soon as the bad results happen, the boo boys will rightly come out.

[1989]

It's not Guardiola 'willing to let him go' so much as it's Arteta's desire to become a manager. It's his career, his life. You're not gonna stop your mate chasing their goals even if you know you would be better off with them on your side. How good you think your mate is going to be (or not) and whatever future threat they may pose to you in a competitive sense all comes as secondary.

[1989]

If someone were to tell any of us in January that Wenger would leave and Arteta would replace him in the summer, how many would honestly not take that?

That's the way I'm rationalizing it right now to at least give myself some peace of mind.

[clockender1]

If someone were to tell any of us in January that Wenger would leave and Arteta would replace him in the summer, how many would honestly not take that?

That's the way I'm rationalizing it right now to at least give myself some peace of mind.

me too. i'm trying to stay positive - whether we go up or down from here, its going to be adventure and the ex-manager has finally bloody gone.

[Gunnersaurus]

For all of us who wanted Wenger gone, we have to hope Arteta is a success or the 'be careful what you wish for' 'Arsene wasn't that bad' brigade will be out in force.

I really hope people get this early and don't crucify him for the boards lack of ambition, if he fails, we all fail, if he succeeds and shows Wenger up to be the has been that he was, we would be proved right.

If it's him, he'll need to be backed because if he's not and he flops, Wenger will look like a God, of he sorts the defence and attitude of the players out, Wenger is going to look a complete fraud and will show how much he's held the club back.

Like it or not but Arteta has to be a success with our backing.

[Redarmy]

Anyone with a brain (Obviously excludes those *word censored* on Arsenal board) could see we required someone with real experience and gravitas to sweep away the smell of Wenger.....who knows how Arteta will actually do...can only predict

Just sad its the office crawler that gets the job...

My prediction ...years of mid table obscurity.....tourists and day trippers will hopefully move up the road to the shit hole

Im done now...in fact thinking about it cannot rationalise why i love the club.....why spent thousands...travelled all round Europe....put my liberty at risk...and safety

Have to say I hate the owner...the board, the players, the Emirates ...and a large majority of the fans

[SteveO 35]

Whoever takes this job on needs to be given the whole of next season almost target free - no top 4, even top 6, no trophies etc.....just make us harder to beat, less of a laughing stock, be tactically adaptable, do the fucking basics right and use the 12 month period to get rid of all the deadwood garbage like Xhaka, Mustafi, Iwobi, Cech etc and set up ready for 2019/20. I couldn't give two fucks if we finish 12th next season and get eliminated from all the cups early doors, as long as I can see that the new guy is bold enough to start making positive changes like these. The entire squad have it ingrained in them to play tip tap shit, and can't defend if their lives depended upon it. Even a 'super coach' can't shit miracles inside a few pre season weeks, so all the 'Wenger knows best' c.unts can say "told you so" all they like if we finish lower next season. One step back needed for several forward.

If Arteta's the man to do that - and frankly none of us have a fucking clue if he can or can't - then I'll afford him all the patience in the world compared to another season under that fraudulent old c.unt playing the same old broken record

[Gunnersaurus]

He's clearly ambitious and ballsy for taking the job on as his first, he must fancy himself, if he's got anything about him he'll target the league cup (to get a trophy under his belt early) and 4th then go again next season.

4th is not out of reach by any means, Liverpool had Salah in peak form and had the same amount of points as last year, Spurs are a shadow of the team from last year, both hung in there because Arsenal and Chelsea were so bad.

The home form is right up there with City so the team is not as bad as it looks, it's just they all gave up and Wenger couldn't cut it against the new breed of coach who could all outsmart him, any new manager is not following a hard act, Wenger hasn't left like Fergie did as a Champion, this club is on its knees.

[SteveO 35]

He could do himself a lot of good by giving the Europa League a decent shot. Honest to god that was a pub level tournament despite people's protestations to the contrary. If the semi final draw had gone the other way we could have had a 90 minute shot against Atletico having beaten the worst team in the Bundesliga (finished clear bottom by nine points), the might of Belarus and Serbia, the pubbers of Ostersund, the dad's army with CSKA (a team with an even more wide open defence than ours), and either Salzburg or a Payet-less bang average Marseille (as shown in the final).

As usual though, the one team we weren't expected to beat...we didn't, Wouldn't be beyond even a half decent coach to have a stab at this. Was incredible that Atletico even found themselves in the thing.

If there was one trophy I'd love to see us win next year it would be this one. Mr 30 Years couldn't win a European trophy in his whole career so to see a novice like Arteta (already written off by all AKBs and know-it-alls) do it at attempt number one would be fantastic.....and wouldn't actually take that much. Harder to win the domestic cups as you might just meet a side that can do their own shoelaces up somewhere along the way

[Gunnersaurus]

I really don't see him being like Wenger where he turns his nose up at trying to win every trophy, the team Wenger sent out against Forest a prime example of that, he's just come from working with someone who tried to win every game the same, I'm sure he'll take that mentality rather than Wenger's loser mentality, why else would he turn down a job here as a coach and run to Pep?

He could have easily stayed here in the comfort zone but had bigger ambitions, I was really anti this move at the start but am slowly starting to have some hope that he's going to be driven enough to try and impress.

[augie]

He's clearly ambitious and ballsy for taking the job on as his first, he must fancy himself, if he's got anything about him he'll target the league cup (to get a trophy under his belt early) and 4th then go again next season.

4th is not out of reach by any means, Liverpool had Salah in peak form and had the same amount of points as last year, Spurs are a shadow of the team from last year, both hung in there because Arsenal and Chelsea were so bad.

The home form is right up there with City so the team is not as bad as it looks, it's just they all gave up and Wenger couldn't cut it against the new breed of coach who could all outsmart him, any new manager is not following a hard act, Wenger hasn't left like Fergie did as a Champion, this club is on its knees.

Professional footballer in an over-inflated opinion of himself shock

[augie]

I think most gooners now would take TH14 over Arteta as things stand with PV4 seeming like it’s not even close to happening. If he did nothing else at least he (TH14) knows what Arsenal is all about and would kick the likes of Bellerin up the backside. Arteta wouldn’t say boo to a goose.

As usual the process is like a slow death with Arsenal, it’s almost like just get it done ffs.

If Arteta is picked I will support him, but if he fucks up my attention will firmly move onto the owners. I can’t help feeling down the years Kroenke and Gazidis have got away with murder. In Wengers last game Chips Keswick and Kroenke when he appeared on the screen where roundly boo’d.

Personally, I'd much prefer we went for Arteta over Henry.

Henry's career path over the last 4 years suggests he's not really taking management that seriously (and his Sky performances aren't that convincing either) whereas you get the feeling Arteta, highly regarded by Guardiola, is more focussed on becoming a manager and is therefore a much better gamble.

Of course, ideally, I'd rather we went with someone with experience of successfully managing a club, but it's looking like we're not heading in that direction.

Arteta would just be a younger version of Wenger imo. Im not convinced he could handle the job.

Even if TH14 doesn't have the tactical nouse of some of the rival managers in the PL, at least he would tell the slackers whats what, and as a foundation this is something we need to do before we can move forward ie totally change the mindset of the team.

Henry would also create a feel good factor around the club, certainly to start with. Hell, we need our fans now to stick together and support the team, rather than fight each other.

And what makes you think Arteta wouldn't kick the slackers into shape? For the last 2 years he's been coaching under a manager who certainly won't tolerate any slackers, so why is it assumed that Arteta would?

As much as we all love Henry, he's too much of an arrogant diva for the role. I'd take Arteta over him.

Boddy you want to be positive and I get that, but you gotta stop stroking arteta's knob long enough to look at this rationally -

It is generally accepted that pep is an obsessive coaching guy who runs all the training at citeeh (as he did at his previous clubs) - how much influence did you think that arteta or any of the coaches have been allowed to have with the coaching ? I know that you are now gonna come back with the suggestion "that arteta will have learmed so much just by watching pep's training", but you would imagine that the physio's, doctors, kit men etc would have watched the same trainings, so would you trust them to manage The Arsenal based on that ??

Secondly is pep's coaching and playing style any different at citeeh than it was at barca ? I would suggest not a jot, so the question is then, how is arteta getting any credit for being involved in a pre-set training schedule ?

[Henry Norris 1913]

to be fair to arteta, i fancy him too

[1989]

He's clearly ambitious and ballsy for taking the job on as his first, he must fancy himself, if he's got anything about him he'll target the league cup (to get a trophy under his belt early) and 4th then go again next season.

4th is not out of reach by any means, Liverpool had Salah in peak form and had the same amount of points as last year, Spurs are a shadow of the team from last year, both hung in there because Arsenal and Chelsea were so bad.

The home form is right up there with City so the team is not as bad as it looks, it's just they all gave up and Wenger couldn't cut it against the new breed of coach who could all outsmart him, any new manager is not following a hard act, Wenger hasn't left like Fergie did as a Champion, this club is on its knees.

Professional footballer in an over-inflated opinion of himself shock

Gunnersaurus does make an excellent point though. The fact that Arteta even backs himself as good enough to take the job on despite his lack of experience indicates that he's supremely confident of his abilities which bodes well for him (and us).

[1989]

You're missing the point. I'm merely questioning why someone would assume that Arteta would indulge the slackers rather than kick them into shape? What evidence is there to base that claim on? Especially considering the fact he's been working with the best manager in the world (who would obviously not tolerate slackers) and hence would likely pick up those ethos from said manager as well?