ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[1989]

Average player imo. Underwhelming.

[northbank123]

Keita a player so good they happily waited a year for him to join even though Coutinho was obviously going.

Fabinho a player who didn’t make Brazil’s WC squad and is in a Monaco side which is in the early stages of being completely picked apart because it can’t match any real ambition.

Not saying that they won’t be good players but not exactly an unmatchable show of ambition. Just the latest instalment of the Liverpool myth that despite being a fucking amazing team. Fair fucks they look good when they get it right and can win big games but they on balance they are fucking average.

[augie]

Liverpool have bought Keita and are closing in Fabinho and Fekir, players who were heavily linked with us. Meanwhile at Arsenal, Mslintwat is buying dead end players that nobody else wants.

Calm down buddy ........ the keita deal was done last summer, whilst fekir plays in a position that we have too many players already

Midz, in recent seasons I cant think of more than 1 or 2 shit players that dortmund have had, so if we are buying from them then at least the player is likely to be a good one. I will say that showing a clip of him brainlessly throwing a guy to the ground, does not make him a good player or a tough player - I seem to remember a few on here going into wankathon mode over gabriel doing something similar for us, and that goofy brazilian fcuker was useless

What are you on about? Fekir and Fabinho are better than what we have in their respective positions.

So what if the Keita deal was done last summer, shows they are not messing about by adding those two.

Emery should already be looking to bin Ramsey if he doesn’t sign an extension, Ozil is stinking up the place and needs replacing, same with Xhaka.

Club has needed a solid DM like Fabinho and we aren’t even making an effort to get him and he’s going for £43m odd.

Based on what exactly ? I've watched fekir a few times and he looks like a small technical player along similar lines of payet - in other words a very good player, but not good enough to be gutted at not signing him. If I had a choice between signing him or mahrez, then I would pick mahrez every day of the week (and I'm nowhere near mahrez's biggest supporter btw).

Fabinho is a different story imo - since PV4 departed I have spent every single summer bemoaning the lack of a physical ball winner in the middle of the park, so I am agreeing with you there. I cant say that I know much about the guy, and you will notice that I never actually mentioned him in my previous post simply cos I dont know enough about him.

I also agree that emery should sell ramsey if he doesnt sign a new deal before the world cup - the transfer window is smaller this summer, and we cannot afford to fanny about in a "will he wont he" drama, so give him an ultimatum, "sign now or be sold"
Ozil I would get rid of now

[augie]

Just seen on sky that we did make a late bid over the weekend for fabinho but he had already decided to go to victimsland

[Nos89]

I'm not too fussed over Fabinho going to Liverpool. Rabiot at PSG is a better player. Apart from Kante the next best player I've seen in that position this season is N'Zonzi.
No doubt this will get laughed at but Maitland-Niles would do very, very well in that position. Hopefully, with decent coaching he'll get better and save us some cash to buy a CB.

[1989]

At least he's a warrior, Sokratis. That's what I can say about him based offf what I've seen of him.

But I want to see a big powerful CB here, and he's the same size as Kos, Mustafi etc.

[SydneyGooner]

With Fabinho, Keita and Fekir Liverpool have the makings of a solid midfield that suit Klopp's style of play. They're only a keeper and a centreback away from competing for the league this coming season IMO.

[1989]

Sokratis sorting out Arnautovic:

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[SydneyGooner]

From a Dortmund fan

Papa, is that he isn't a world class player of course, but he is very good defender. He's given 5 years to our club, and he was loved by the fans. Not just for being a strong player, but also for being a leader and a great character too.

I am sure he will be fine for Arsenal, he's got so much experience at european and International level too. He's a strong guy, good in the air, responsible, doesnt make many mistakes, will be a good leader for young players and will not hide.

[DB10GOONER]

With Fabinho, Keita and Fekir Liverpool have the makings of a solid midfield that suit Klopp's style of play. They're only a keeper and a centreback away from competing for the league this coming season IMO.

Don't agree at all. Klopp's "style" is try and hit everyone on the break at pace attack attack try and outscore the oppo and hope for the best. He's the modern Ossie Ardiles! When clued-in managers counter that, Klopp has less of a plan B than Wenger had. The Mouser's entire defence is awful and hugely accident prone at their primary job - defending. Their midfield were absolutely exposed as bang average by Madrid. Without Mo Salah they would have been 5th or 6th in the PL this season.

Not a chance will they be challenging for the title next year.... they (like us over the last decade) are too inconsistent. Consistency wins titles, not flashes of quality and a limited goofy attention whore manager.

[augie]

With Fabinho, Keita and Fekir Liverpool have the makings of a solid midfield that suit Klopp's style of play. They're only a keeper and a centreback away from competing for the league this coming season IMO.

Don't agree at all. Klopp's "style" is try and hit everyone on the break at pace attack attack try and outscore the oppo and hope for the best. He's the modern Ossie Ardiles! When clued-in managers counter that, Klopp has less of a plan B than Wenger had. The Mouser's entire defence is awful and hugely accident prone at their primary job - defending. Their midfield were absolutely exposed as bang average by Madrid. Without Mo Salah they would have been 5th or 6th in the PL this season.

Not a chance will they be challenging for the title next year.... they (like us over the last decade) are too inconsistent. Consistency wins titles, not flashes of quality and a limited goofy attention whore manager.

Agree totally - look beyond the victims first 11 and you will see a squad low on talent. When salah went off the other night, the only striker options on the bench were ings and solanke, and they aint premiership level much less champions league level. Their current midfield is the very definition of average/vanilla - henderson on his best days is average, the dutch guy is ok, milner's legs are gone, and can is off to juve, meaning that the only midfielder that they have with any spark is the ox and he is still raw tactically (thanks to mr 30 years ). Their goalkeeping department is an absolute joke and I would take either of our keepers (who are average) ahead of theirs Their defence is where it gets really interesting cos klopp (like our senile departed c.unt) seems to think that one good defensive purchase is gonna fix everything and that he wont need to buy another defender I rated robertson long before he became first choice, and van dijk would be good alongside a commanding centre back, but after that they aint all that.

Personally I dont think that, quality wise, there is much between our squad and theirs - where they have had a massive advantage is that they have played with real tempo and commitment, and by all accounts emery will have our side doing that as well so the gap between us isnt as big as some seem to think, and certainly isnt big enough to lift them into the contender bracket

[Gunnersaurus]

I'd rather have Alexander Arnold, Van Djik & Robertson over any of the defenders at this club, not sure why their defence gets so much stick, kept a lot of clean sheets last year, every team brainfarts at the back, it's not exclusive a problem to them.

[1989]

Augie,

Their midfield is not shite anymore. They've upgraded massively with the signings of Fabinho and Keita. Let's be real.

Hope they stick with Karius though, lol.

[Jock Gooner]

I'd rather have Alexander Arnold, Van Djik & Robertson over any of the defenders at this club, not sure why their defence gets so much stick, kept a lot of clean sheets last year, every team brainfarts at the back, it's not exclusive a problem to them.

A fair point, I would certainly take those 3 ahead of anything we have.

[augie]

Augie,

Their midfield is not shite anymore. They've upgraded massively with the signings of Fabinho and Keita. Let's be real.

Hope they stick with Karius though, lol.

We are basing that on how they did with their previous clubs in different leagues - history is full of examples of players who have been outstanding in other leagues but failed in england (veron is always the one that stands out for me cos he was world class). Fekir is the obvious one that I would be less sure of - he has done well in a poor french league, and doesnt seem to have been on the wanted list of any of the big clubs in europe (not saying that is proof in itself). If fabinho is seen as a CDM then the expectations on him will be different cos his job will be mainly to stop opposition attacks - fekir though is seen as a creative player, and he now has to show that he can do the same job in a much faster and a more physical league. For france last night he was picked to play wide in the front 3, so how and where does he fit in with that liverpool team ? The obvious answer is that he will play up top, but will he oust one of their current front 3 or is he a back-up player, cos it is a lot of money for a back-up player ?