KROENKE OUT / The Board / Staff etc (merged thread)

[sk-gtfo]

Out spent by Fulham and West Ham, get used to this, this is life as part of a KSE franchise.

Competing for 4th place as usual is the best we can hope for and if Usmanov buys Everton that will be another club that is likely to overtake us.

We've never had it so good!.

As for protests etc. I can't see it, remember the hate Usmanov banners? (ironic they are quite apt now!), some of our fans actually think Kroenke is good news or are at least indifferent towards him, what a joke..

[NickF]

If Wiggy gets his way we can kiss goodbye to AFC as we love it.
There will be no dissention or opposition to him,and he will also have free reign to use us as collateral on loans etc.
Please re-consider Usmanov!

Isn't that really worse case scenario? He has been the majority shareholder for a good number of years and could have easily have put the debt on us like the Glazier's at Utd but hasn't.

I also fail to see why he would use us as collateral given he is already building the most expensive stadium in the world and the Rams are worth more than twice what we are.

As I've said many times I wish we were not owned by either Kroenke or Usmanov but our custodians could see no further than their bank balance.

[bunch]

Isn't that really worse case scenario? He has been the majority shareholder for a good number of years and could have easily have put the debt on us like the Glazier's at Utd but hasn't.

I also fail to see why he would use us as collateral given he is already building the most expensive stadium in the world and the Rams are worth more than twice what we are.

The difference is that with other shareholders it would not be possible to use the assets of AFC as collateral for a loans taken out by Kroenke or KSE unless they could demonstrate that it was in the intereats of AFC to do so. If not, the minoirty sharholders could sue the direcrors for breach of their fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of the company. Without minority shareholders Stan can do whatever he wants. He could saddle AFC plc with debt raised for investments in other KSE enterprises. Basically, its all his now, the wine collection for the executive suites, player conttacts and the toilets at the training ground.

Like the feudal lord exercising his right of prima noce, he can shaft something we love and there is damn all we can do about it.

[DB10GOONER]

Isn't that really worse case scenario? He has been the majority shareholder for a good number of years and could have easily have put the debt on us like the Glazier's at Utd but hasn't.

I also fail to see why he would use us as collateral given he is already building the most expensive stadium in the world and the Rams are worth more than twice what we are.

The difference is that with other shareholders it would not be possible to use the assets of AFC as collateral for a loans taken out by Kroenke or KSE unless they could demonstrate that it was in the intereats of AFC to do so. If not, the minoirty sharholders could sue the direcrors for breach of their fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of the company. Without minority shareholders Stan can do whatever he wants. He could saddle AFC plc with debt raised for investments in other KSE enterprises. Basically, its all his now, the wine collection for the executive suites, player conttacts and the toilets at the training ground.

Like the feudal lord exercising his right of prima noce, he can shaft something we love and there is damn all we can do about it.

Brilliant post mate. Puts it right on the money. The scary thing is it is now a situation where a disinterested owner who is not a fan can do whatever he wants to do with what is now just another possession of his. If his other business areas start to go tits up he can leverage the shit out of us to save those areas. Up to now he could not do that.

The Arsenal are nothing more than a possession to this parasitic cùnt and he will asset strip the fuck out of us if he had to without even blinking.

[1989]

We're fucked.

[Gunner Rob]

the scary part for me is that Stan Kroenke looks like he will gradually hand his business over to his son Josh.

now to be fair whatever you might think of Stan, he is a competent businessman - most billionaires usually are.
however what Josh might do to the club (this is someone who knows NOTHING about football) should concern everyone.

[nut flush gooner]

Another thought, empty seats at the Emirates might cost the manager their job but it’s nothing more than a nose bleed for wiggy.

Empty seats might be non revenue producing if season ticket holders jump ship, but the reality is matchday revenue is becoming a smaller part of the clubs overall turnover. 80000 and 50000 plus fans in Melbourne and Singapore over the last two pre seasons respectively are testament to that. Add to that the huge cash cow that the tv rights represent these days and Kroenke can run the club into the ground and still make a decent return on his minimal investment.

[the playing mantis]

Another thought, empty seats at the Emirates might cost the manager their job but it’s nothing more than a nose bleed for wiggy.

Empty seats might be non revenue producing if season ticket holders jump ship, but the reality is matchday revenue is becoming a smaller part of the clubs overall turnover. 80000 and 50000 plus fans in Melbourne and Singapore over the last two pre seasons respectively are testament to that. Add to that the huge cash cow that the tv rights represent these days and Kroenke can run the club into the ground and still make a decent return on his minimal investment.

Empty seats protest is not about money as I already said above re the irrelevance if match day income now. It's about bad publicity. I believe protests, demos and swathes of empty seats could help get rid of him (if all thr negatives come to pass) as bad publicity and negative coverage is an issue for him/KSE

[DB10GOONER]

The ONLY reason Wenger is gone is the empty seats last season. The direct income is not the issue though. It's the knock on effect to the "brand". It's harder to negotiate a high paying marketing or sponsorship deal when the sponsor can hit you with "fuck off, we are not giving you that much, you have a half empty stadium".

The wiggy racoon headed parasite is many things (a wiggy racoon headed parasite, a cúnt, a punctured ballbag, a gash-featured fucknob, a - well you get the picture ) but he is also a sharp enough evil businessman billionaire tycoon cúnt and he knows what brand strength means.

Empty seats to the extent that the brand is damaged might (might) make him fuck off but do we have the numbers to stay away now that we have a new manager and many Gooners will want to start getting back to games....???

[the playing mantis]

The ONLY reason Wenger is gone is the empty seats last season. The direct income is not the issue though. It's the knock on effect to the "brand". It's harder to negotiate a high paying marketing or sponsorship deal when the sponsor can hit you with "fuck off, we are not giving you that much, you have a half empty stadium".

The wiggy racoon headed parasite is many things (a wiggy racoon headed parasite, a cúnt, a punctured ballbag, a gash-featured fucknob, a - well you get the picture ) but he is also a sharp enough evil businessman billionaire tycoon cúnt and he knows what brand strength means.

Empty seats to the extent that the brand is damaged might (might) make him fuck off but do we have the numbers to stay away now that we have a new manager and many Gooners will want to start getting back to games....???

thats what i said/meant, although not as articulately!

not at the moment we dont. Personally im giving it a chance, and unless we win the treble this season then i will turn!

realistically although this could be a disaster surely we have to see what happens in a couple of seasons before protests start. he could, however unlikely, have a funny turn and start spunking money on us...until a couple of seasons (hopefully) when we may be back on the brink of challenging for the top prizes again, his actions cannot be judged. if he withholds money etc then, yes we go after him unleashed.

[DB10GOONER]

The ONLY reason Wenger is gone is the empty seats last season. The direct income is not the issue though. It's the knock on effect to the "brand". It's harder to negotiate a high paying marketing or sponsorship deal when the sponsor can hit you with "fuck off, we are not giving you that much, you have a half empty stadium".

The wiggy racoon headed parasite is many things (a wiggy racoon headed parasite, a cúnt, a punctured ballbag, a gash-featured fucknob, a - well you get the picture ) but he is also a sharp enough evil businessman billionaire tycoon cúnt and he knows what brand strength means.

Empty seats to the extent that the brand is damaged might (might) make him fuck off but do we have the numbers to stay away now that we have a new manager and many Gooners will want to start getting back to games....???

thats what i said/meant, although not as articulately!

not at the moment we dont. Personally im giving it a chance, and unless we win the treble this season then i will turn!

realistically although this could be a disaster surely we have to see what happens in a couple of seasons before protests start. he could, however unlikely, have a funny turn and start spunking money on us...until a couple of seasons (hopefully) when we may be back on the brink of challenging for the top prizes again, his actions cannot be judged. if he withholds money etc then, yes we go after him unleashed.

To a certain extent I agree. I am very concerned for our future but I won't be continuing my boycott based on his 100% ownership until he does something to warrant it. He may do, he might not. There's no doubt he's a shit owner as he should have sacked Wenger as priority one when he took that controlling share years ago but our worst fears of a leveraged club are still only that; fears. But the minute he does fuck us then we all have to boycott because that would be our only (slim) hope of getting rid of the cúnt, if indeed the cúnt at that point needs getting rid of.

[Jock Gooner]

The ONLY reason Wenger is gone is the empty seats last season. The direct income is not the issue though. It's the knock on effect to the "brand". It's harder to negotiate a high paying marketing or sponsorship deal when the sponsor can hit you with "fuck off, we are not giving you that much, you have a half empty stadium".

The wiggy racoon headed parasite is many things (a wiggy racoon headed parasite, a cúnt, a punctured ballbag, a gash-featured fucknob, a - well you get the picture ) but he is also a sharp enough evil businessman billionaire tycoon cúnt and he knows what brand strength means.

Empty seats to the extent that the brand is damaged might (might) make him fuck off but do we have the numbers to stay away now that we have a new manager and many Gooners will want to start getting back to games....???

thats what i said/meant, although not as articulately!

not at the moment we dont. Personally im giving it a chance, and unless we win the treble this season then i will turn!

realistically although this could be a disaster surely we have to see what happens in a couple of seasons before protests start. he could, however unlikely, have a funny turn and start spunking money on us...until a couple of seasons (hopefully) when we may be back on the brink of challenging for the top prizes again, his actions cannot be judged. if he withholds money etc then, yes we go after him unleashed.

To a certain extent I agree. I am very concerned for our future but I won't be continuing my boycott based on his 100% ownership until he does something to warrant it. He may do, he might not. There's no doubt he's a shit owner as he should have sacked Wenger as priority one when he took that controlling share years ago but our worst fears of a leveraged club are still only that; fears. But the minute he does fuck us then we all have to boycott because that would be our only (slim) hope of getting rid of the cúnt, if indeed the cúnt at that point needs getting rid of.

The problem is that any demise under the wiggy cu.nt is likely to be a slow one so when do you start the protests?

The subject of covenants written in by Fiszman and Edelman at the time of the financing of the bowl has cropped up again in a couple of articles but I haven't seen anything particularly informative. The gist of it seems to be that they were looking to prevent anyone from doing a 'Glazers' on us which sounds good. Anyone know anything about that - my immediate and uninformed concern is if such restrictions were put in place then surely that would only serve to tempt the wiggy cu.nt to simply refinance elsewhere asap so that he was no longer bound by the covenants.

[A11M11]

Surely once he has 100% he can overturn anything set up in the past. Afterall who is going to check up on him ? His new ceo Josh or any of the sheep that don't get the push now that he no longer needs them.

[nut flush gooner]

Another thought, empty seats at the Emirates might cost the manager their job but it’s nothing more than a nose bleed for wiggy.

Empty seats might be non revenue producing if season ticket holders jump ship, but the reality is matchday revenue is becoming a smaller part of the clubs overall turnover. 80000 and 50000 plus fans in Melbourne and Singapore over the last two pre seasons respectively are testament to that. Add to that the huge cash cow that the tv rights represent these days and Kroenke can run the club into the ground and still make a decent return on his minimal investment.

Empty seats protest is not about money as I already said above re the irrelevance if match day income now. It's about bad publicity. I believe protests, demos and swathes of empty seats could help get rid of him (if all thr negatives come to pass) as bad publicity and negative coverage is an issue for him/KSE

Disagree, the stadium being full or half empty is irrelevant. If a sponsor sees there is a huge market in Asia for selling their products, being advertised in a half empty Emirates won’t bother them in the slightest. Let’s be honest about this in a post Brexit world countries like the U.K. will become more and more insignificant to big brands. The PL isn’t about bums on seats in the U.K. it’s as much as how many £100 shirts they can sell in Asia or the US and how much the media companies can make out if tv rights etc etc. As much as I hate to say this times are changing and Kroenke has his finger right on the pulse.

[bergkamp10]

It's OK, panic over, "Lady" Nina Cuntington-Smythe has tweeted about it being a "sad day".

https://twitter.com/NinaBracewell/statu ... 24128?s=09

Hmm.... I dunno Nina you old cùnt maybe if you and Dein and all the other greedy money obsessed dollars-in-the-eyes cùnts hadn't sold your shares to the wig molesting cùnt then oh I dunno maybe we wouldn't be in this mess, you fucking cùnt.

Her tweet is like Pol Pot tweeting "a fucking shame all the intellectuals in Cambodia are now dead.".

I agree that ultimately Bracewell Smith is to blame for a lot, but I just don't think at the time the implications of her decision were so obvious.
also I think she might have been under pressure from Fiszman not to sell to Usmanov.

I think there is little blame with Usmanov, with that amount of money in a club, with no say. It was only a matter of time.

Good friend of mine reckons he have control of Everton by Christmas. Could make it more interesting for the Top 6-8 teams!!