ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[1989]

I agree. CB is our most urgent need.

[DB10GOONER]

The latest slow day made up horseshit:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... Baiily/amp

What a shameless cùnt this Jeremy Cross is. A fucking hack of the lowest order. "Writes" a story based on nothing but the fact he was sitting at his desk with nothing to "write" about.

Fucking hell if your name is "Cross" and you "work" as a football "writer" it seems you also must be a total fucking arsehole.

[augie]

The latest slow day made up horseshit:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... Baiily/amp

What a shameless cùnt this Jeremy Cross is. A fucking hack of the lowest order. "Writes" a story based on nothing but the fact he was sitting at his desk with nothing to "write" about.

Fucking hell if your name is "Cross" and you "work" as a football "writer" it seems you also must be a total fucking arsehole.

In his first season with manure I thought that bailly was a good centre back with potential to be better the more he settles in to english life, but in the past season and a half it all seems to have gone pete tong for him and I'm not sure why. Is it cos he isnt actually that good and has simply been found out ? Or is it that he is yet another player that has been ruined by an arrogant portugese c.unt who has thrown his big money centre half buys (him and lindelof) to the bin in a show of fuk you to his board for not allowing him spend another £100m ?

[Herd]

I hate to be a killjoy but I don't believe Ramsey or Welbeck will be replaced !

We withdrew the Offer on the table to Ramsey which f the press is to be beleived was ready to sign .
Why would you do that ???????????,
If Emery doesnt want him you would still extend his contract so you can sell him at full market price to release money for other players.
The fact they have just walked on the deal means for me only one thing ,the Owner wants the cash cow to start paying him back and trimming the wage bill is one way of doing it !

[1989]

No, you're reading far too much into it.

They simply decided that Aaron Ramsey wasn't worth the contract he was after and ended talks. The end.

[Nos89]

Ramsey was supposed to be one of those 'wonder kids' when we signed him but he's never really lived up to that potential.
He's scored a couple of cup winning goals which was great but he's never been outstanding for us.
He might do well in another team, who knows.
Letting him go would not be a huge loss for us and would save on our enormous wage bill.

Get a decent winger in January please.

We've got a decent winger. He's currently on loan to Hoffenheim untill we can shift some of those senior players off our payroll.
Don't think Stan will allow someone earning £100k plus to sit and rot in reserves.

[augie]

Ramsey was supposed to be one of those 'wonder kids' when we signed him but he's never really lived up to that potential.
He's scored a couple of cup winning goals which was great but he's never been outstanding for us.
He might do well in another team, who knows.
Letting him go would not be a huge loss for us and would save on our enormous wage bill.

Get a decent winger in January please.

We've got a decent winger. He's currently on loan to Hoffenheim untill we can shift some of those senior players off our payroll.
Don't think Stan will allow someone earning £100k plus to sit and rot in reserves.

Even a greedy b..stard like slimy stan knows that the guy is about to walk out the door on a free so he is about to lose millions anyway - a smart strategic businessman would then try to ensure that what happens next wont strengthen his competitors and hit his business, so not playing him for the next few months would hopefully somewhat diminish his popularity/attraction for the bigger clubs.
Also a smart businessman would recognise the long term negatives that would arise by playing him as normal for the rest of the season - how disgruntled will other players be when they are being dropped for someone who is showing zero committment to the club ? It has the potential to develop into a scenario where the disgruntled player also looks to leave next summer so we could end up losing 2 players cos of it.

I understand that many will counter many arguments with the fact that the club would earn extra coin if we played him and he helped get us top 4 this season, but I honestly dont believe that he would have that big of an impact if we play him - for me he is no longer in our best 11 anyway, so shouldnt we just move on without him now ?
Of course my feelings on this might be distorted by the fact that he is another player that I really want out of our club

[Herd]

No, you're reading far too much into it.

They simply decided that Aaron Ramsey wasn't worth the contract he was after and ended talks. The end.

Possibly 89, I have been known to over think things ,but the club withdrew their offer to him ,not his counter proposal to their offer which is a different kettle of fish .
It suggests a change of stance from the club but in any case why wouldnt you extend the contract then sell him on before the new contract kicks in at full market value ???
it would save you millions and cost you nothing !

[augie]

No, you're reading far too much into it.

They simply decided that Aaron Ramsey wasn't worth the contract he was after and ended talks. The end.

Possibly 89, I have been known to over think things ,but the club withdrew their offer to him ,not his counter proposal to their offer which is a different kettle of fish .
It suggests a change of stance from the club but in any case why wouldnt you extend the contract then sell him on before the new contract kicks in at full market value ???
it would save you millions and cost you nothing !

Maybe cos if we had of offered him anything near what he was looking for, it would have priced other clubs out of buying him ?
Or maybe it is because emery and the club realised that really he isnt that good after all, and that he isnt irreplaceable ?

[augie]

And now we have confirmation of his intentions .......

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... the-season

Time to put it to him straight ......... either fcuk off in january or you will be with the reserves for the rest of the season

[the playing mantis]

No, you're reading far too much into it.

They simply decided that Aaron Ramsey wasn't worth the contract he was after and ended talks. The end.

Possibly 89, I have been known to over think things ,but the club withdrew their offer to him ,not his counter proposal to their offer which is a different kettle of fish .
It suggests a change of stance from the club but in any case why wouldnt you extend the contract then sell him on before the new contract kicks in at full market value ???
it would save you millions and cost you nothing !

because paying him what we assume he wants to sign the contract, is way over his actual worth, leaving us lumbered with him as no one would sign him on such an overinflated contract as hes not very good.

I would happily see him go for free as i dont rate him at all. i think we are worse with him in the side. i dont know what sort of player he is meant to be, what is his role whats he good at doing? Bar a 1/3 of a season of goalscoring and late running into the box causing mayhem, hes been crap the rest of the time with us. No idea what others see in him and dont fear him coming back and hurting us.

[Midz]

We gave Chelsea :- Ashley Cole, Giroud and Fabregas.
They gave us :- Cech and Gallas.

I think they got the better deal.

[DB10GOONER]

No, you're reading far too much into it.

They simply decided that Aaron Ramsey wasn't worth the contract he was after and ended talks. The end.

Possibly 89, I have been known to over think things ,but the club withdrew their offer to him ,not his counter proposal to their offer which is a different kettle of fish .
It suggests a change of stance from the club but in any case why wouldnt you extend the contract then sell him on before the new contract kicks in at full market value ???
it would save you millions and cost you nothing !

Maybe cos if we had of offered him anything near what he was looking for, it would have priced other clubs out of buying him ?
Or maybe it is because emery and the club realised that really he isnt that good after all, and that he isnt irreplaceable ?

I'm hopeful that someone at the club said "hang the fuck on - Wenger and The Lizard left us with one anchor hanging round our necks by paying Ozil 350k a week, let's not make that fucking mistake again".

Hopeful. Not confident.

[Jock Gooner]

No, you're reading far too much into it.

They simply decided that Aaron Ramsey wasn't worth the contract he was after and ended talks. The end.

Possibly 89, I have been known to over think things ,but the club withdrew their offer to him ,not his counter proposal to their offer which is a different kettle of fish .
It suggests a change of stance from the club but in any case why wouldnt you extend the contract then sell him on before the new contract kicks in at full market value ???
it would save you millions and cost you nothing !

Maybe cos if we had of offered him anything near what he was looking for, it would have priced other clubs out of buying him ?
Or maybe it is because emery and the club realised that really he isnt that good after all, and that he isnt irreplaceable ?

I'm hopeful that someone at the club said "hang the fuck on - Wenger and The Lizard left us with one anchor hanging round our necks by paying Ozil 350k a week, let's not make that fucking mistake again".

Hopeful. Not confident.

Whilst I agree that AR is not worth anywhere near the 250k figure I do think that we are going to watch him get that kind of money elsewhere. How the fuck is Sanllehi supposed to go to wiggy for the cash to replace Ramsey without looking a complete prick. I'm sure that even wiggy must have noticed by now that we keep pissing money away and given the transfer piggy bank of the summer I don't expect wiggy will stump up much cash....if any. It's all well and good saying he can fuck off as he's shite but that ain't going to buy his replacement and we'll all be expecting one. The club need to establish whether he will be prepared to move in January so we can get something for him, if not then he's sidelined and finished with playing til next season - fuck him.

[augie]

No, you're reading far too much into it.

They simply decided that Aaron Ramsey wasn't worth the contract he was after and ended talks. The end.

Possibly 89, I have been known to over think things ,but the club withdrew their offer to him ,not his counter proposal to their offer which is a different kettle of fish .
It suggests a change of stance from the club but in any case why wouldnt you extend the contract then sell him on before the new contract kicks in at full market value ???
it would save you millions and cost you nothing !

Maybe cos if we had of offered him anything near what he was looking for, it would have priced other clubs out of buying him ?
Or maybe it is because emery and the club realised that really he isnt that good after all, and that he isnt irreplaceable ?

I'm hopeful that someone at the club said "hang the fuck on - Wenger and The Lizard left us with one anchor hanging round our necks by paying Ozil 350k a week, let's not make that fucking mistake again".

Hopeful. Not confident.

Whilst I agree that AR is not worth anywhere near the 250k figure I do think that we are going to watch him get that kind of money elsewhere. How the fuck is Sanllehi supposed to go to wiggy for the cash to replace Ramsey without looking a complete prick. I'm sure that even wiggy must have noticed by now that we keep pissing money away and given the transfer piggy bank of the summer I don't expect wiggy will stump up much cash....if any. It's all well and good saying he can fuck off as he's shite but that ain't going to buy his replacement and we'll all be expecting one. The club need to establish whether he will be prepared to move in January so we can get something for him, if not then he's sidelined and finished with playing til next season - fuck him.

I dont, and I will actually be disappointed if we spend money getting one.

Right now we have torreira, xhaka, guendozi, ozil maitland-niles, mikki, smith-rowe and elninny who can all play centre midfield, and at least 4 of them can play the attacking central midfielder role, so why buy another ?? If I was the manager I would be trying to offload one or two central midfielders (I'm thinking of you here elninny ) cos we are overstocked in that position imo, and spending the money on defence would be a no-brainer for me