Modern Football Bol**cks

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I suppose we can look at this from different viewpoints - are we not included cos we chose not to be, or are we considered unimportant now after years of decline under le senile cock ?

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ague-plans

The sun of course has a different slant (no shock there :roll: ) and has us included in "most shocking betrayal" :roll:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -meetings/

Personally I have mixed views - on one hand I absolutely want my club to stay in their domestic league, but on the other hand I dont want them to be left behind when all the big clubs fcuk off (a bit like the europa league I guess :lol: ). Make no mistake, this euro league plan is all about ££££ :lol: :lol: but I wonder what impact (if any) brexit might have on it :rubchin:

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augie wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:17 pm
I suppose we can look at this from different viewpoints - are we not included cos we chose not to be, or are we considered unimportant now after years of decline under le senile cock ?

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ague-plans

The sun of course has a different slant (no shock there :roll: ) and has us included in "most shocking betrayal" :roll:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -meetings/

Personally I have mixed views - on one hand I absolutely want my club to stay in their domestic league, but on the other hand I dont want them to be left behind when all the big clubs fcuk off (a bit like the europa league I guess :lol: ). Make no mistake, this euro league plan is all about ££££ :lol: :lol: but I wonder what impact (if any) brexit might have on it :rubchin:
Was watching the News this morning , a reporter was explain this concept and how it was all about the money when the female presenter interrupted him and asked how much more money do they want ?.
That is the question we all should ask but will never get an answer to. All clubs can smugly take the line that they have to follow or be left behind while secretly licking their lips at the thoughts of it . Hate the thoughts of it myself, think football has gone way too far as it is but having said that I also accept that this will happen in some form at some point in time.

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Bradywasking wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:25 am
augie wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:17 pm
I suppose we can look at this from different viewpoints - are we not included cos we chose not to be, or are we considered unimportant now after years of decline under le senile cock ?

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ague-plans

The sun of course has a different slant (no shock there :roll: ) and has us included in "most shocking betrayal" :roll:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -meetings/

Personally I have mixed views - on one hand I absolutely want my club to stay in their domestic league, but on the other hand I dont want them to be left behind when all the big clubs fcuk off (a bit like the europa league I guess :lol: ). Make no mistake, this euro league plan is all about ££££ :lol: :lol: but I wonder what impact (if any) brexit might have on it :rubchin:
Was watching the News this morning , a reporter was explain this concept and how it was all about the money when the female presenter interrupted him and asked how much more money do they want ?.
That is the question we all should ask but will never get an answer to. All clubs can smugly take the line that they have to follow or be left behind while secretly licking their lips at the thoughts of it . Hate the thoughts of it myself, think football has gone way too far as it is but having said that I also accept that this will happen in some form at some point in time.
I hope it does happen because it will be the moment when it all blows up over their greedy faces

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What is the point?

Being mid table in a European super League must be the most retarded thing ever, yeah we used to dominate our Portuguese league but now we finish 14th every year in this supa leeeg !

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:04 am
Bradywasking wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:25 am
augie wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:17 pm
I suppose we can look at this from different viewpoints - are we not included cos we chose not to be, or are we considered unimportant now after years of decline under le senile cock ?

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ague-plans

The sun of course has a different slant (no shock there :roll: ) and has us included in "most shocking betrayal" :roll:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -meetings/

Personally I have mixed views - on one hand I absolutely want my club to stay in their domestic league, but on the other hand I dont want them to be left behind when all the big clubs fcuk off (a bit like the europa league I guess :lol: ). Make no mistake, this euro league plan is all about ££££ :lol: :lol: but I wonder what impact (if any) brexit might have on it :rubchin:
Was watching the News this morning , a reporter was explain this concept and how it was all about the money when the female presenter interrupted him and asked how much more money do they want ?.
That is the question we all should ask but will never get an answer to. All clubs can smugly take the line that they have to follow or be left behind while secretly licking their lips at the thoughts of it . Hate the thoughts of it myself, think football has gone way too far as it is but having said that I also accept that this will happen in some form at some point in time.
I hope it does happen because it will be the moment when it all blows up over their greedy faces


Have to admit that my first reaction was.... thank christ we are still at the top table...followed by a careful check that the scum weren't on the list :lol: As we all know money talks and if the clubs on that main list do something then the TV money will follow them without a shadow of doubt.

If they are looking to replace the Champions League then you have to wonder whether it is to secure more of the revenue stream that UEFA control or is it the prerequisite to an actual super league to replace domestic ones. Or maybe it is both. UEFA released the following breakdown for it's Euro revenue -


"The gross commercial revenue from the 2018/19 UEFA Champions League, the 2018/19 UEFA Europa League and the 2018 UEFA Super Cup is estimated at around €3.25bn.

Of the estimated gross amount of €3.25bn, €295m will be deducted to cover organisational costs relating to the competitions, and 7% (€227.5m) will be set aside for solidarity payments. Of the resulting net revenue of €2.73bn, 6.5% will be reserved for European football and remain with UEFA, and the other 93.5% will be distributed to the participating clubs.

On the basis of the above revenue forecast and set allocations, the total amount available for distribution to participating clubs in 2018/19 is €2.55bn, of which €2.04bn will be distributed to clubs competing in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Super Cup, and €510m will be distributed to clubs participating in the UEFA Europa League."

So of 3.25bn income, the Champions League boys get 2.04bn which means that they will see that as well over a billion going elsewhere. Who really gives a fuck about the Ropey league....does it justify receiving 510m from commercial income or is that UEFA redistributing the wealth a bit. Given that ourselves Milan and Chelski would generate far more income than half of the CL qualifying clubs - Club Bruge, Pizen, Moscows, Red Star etc then you can see where the major clubs are coming from - rightly or wrongly.

Also we are coming unstuck with Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and co becoming unwanted away fixtures in the Ropey cup.....which quite frankly is bollox and perhaps a motivator for the big clubs to act. Perhaps the clubs wanted less games in these competitions and a bigger slice of the income they attract. Have they had conversations with UEFA about these issues over the years, been ignored and so have decided to act. It's always been just a matter of time.
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AkneyGooner wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:48 pm
What is the point?

Being mid table in a European super League must be the most retarded thing ever, yeah we used to dominate our Portuguese league but now we finish 14th every year in this supa leeeg !
Looking at the list of clubs it doesn't look like the Portuguese will have to worry about that :lol:

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Remember 15-20 years ago when everybody was convinced that there was going to be a breakaway European Super League? Never happened. The bloated champions league put paid to it.

The biggest teams are playing against each other every year with the better sides guaranteed to play 10+ games in the competition.

There’s no need for this competition, commercially or in footballing terms. Don’t see it happening any time soon.

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It looks like the usual shit the richest clubs come up with every few years as a threat to get whatever it is they want. 15 years ago, they wanted more money and more safety nets about Champions League qualification and got the 3 or 4 places, now they want something else and it could be the chance to cut their own tv and advertising deals and the right to broadcast their own matches online. A few months back, UEFA made noises about bringing back a third European club competition and at the time it was assumed it would be something between the Europa league and the Champions league but now I reckon it could end up being a European league with 16-20 teams guaranteed a place on a 4-5 year cycle. I get the feeling they may want something similar to this fucking silly Nations League but with clubs. I couldn't give a fuck really.

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England picking Rooney for their friendly against USA at Wembley and making the game all about his charity and fucking around with the arch as usual.

If even the countries aren’t going to take this shot seriously why the fuck do we keep allowing international friendlies to disrupt real football?

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can someone explain to me WHY the Wolves game next Sunday needs to kick off at 4.30pm when it is not being televised ???

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:17 pm
IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:04 am
Bradywasking wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:25 am
augie wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:17 pm
I suppose we can look at this from different viewpoints - are we not included cos we chose not to be, or are we considered unimportant now after years of decline under le senile cock ?

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ague-plans

The sun of course has a different slant (no shock there :roll: ) and has us included in "most shocking betrayal" :roll:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -meetings/

Personally I have mixed views - on one hand I absolutely want my club to stay in their domestic league, but on the other hand I dont want them to be left behind when all the big clubs fcuk off (a bit like the europa league I guess :lol: ). Make no mistake, this euro league plan is all about ££££ :lol: :lol: but I wonder what impact (if any) brexit might have on it :rubchin:
Was watching the News this morning , a reporter was explain this concept and how it was all about the money when the female presenter interrupted him and asked how much more money do they want ?.
That is the question we all should ask but will never get an answer to. All clubs can smugly take the line that they have to follow or be left behind while secretly licking their lips at the thoughts of it . Hate the thoughts of it myself, think football has gone way too far as it is but having said that I also accept that this will happen in some form at some point in time.
I hope it does happen because it will be the moment when it all blows up over their greedy faces


Have to admit that my first reaction was.... thank christ we are still at the top table...followed by a careful check that the scum weren't on the list :lol: As we all know money talks and if the clubs on that main list do something then the TV money will follow them without a shadow of doubt.

If they are looking to replace the Champions League then you have to wonder whether it is to secure more of the revenue stream that UEFA control or is it the prerequisite to an actual super league to replace domestic ones. Or maybe it is both. UEFA released the following breakdown for it's Euro revenue -


"The gross commercial revenue from the 2018/19 UEFA Champions League, the 2018/19 UEFA Europa League and the 2018 UEFA Super Cup is estimated at around €3.25bn.

Of the estimated gross amount of €3.25bn, €295m will be deducted to cover organisational costs relating to the competitions, and 7% (€227.5m) will be set aside for solidarity payments. Of the resulting net revenue of €2.73bn, 6.5% will be reserved for European football and remain with UEFA, and the other 93.5% will be distributed to the participating clubs.

On the basis of the above revenue forecast and set allocations, the total amount available for distribution to participating clubs in 2018/19 is €2.55bn, of which €2.04bn will be distributed to clubs competing in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Super Cup, and €510m will be distributed to clubs participating in the UEFA Europa League."

So of 3.25bn income, the Champions League boys get 2.04bn which means that they will see that as well over a billion going elsewhere. Who really gives a fuck about the Ropey league....does it justify receiving 510m from commercial income or is that UEFA redistributing the wealth a bit. Given that ourselves Milan and Chelski would generate far more income than half of the CL qualifying clubs - Club Bruge, Pizen, Moscows, Red Star etc then you can see where the major clubs are coming from - rightly or wrongly.

Also we are coming unstuck with Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and co becoming unwanted away fixtures in the Ropey cup.....which quite frankly is bollox and perhaps a motivator for the big clubs to act. Perhaps the clubs wanted less games in these competitions and a bigger slice of the income they attract. Have they had conversations with UEFA about these issues over the years, been ignored and so have decided to act. It's always been just a matter of time.
I've gotta be honest here. Us mods are supposed to read everything on this forum but you could have publicly named 54 paedophile celebrities and members of parliament there and I'll never ever know. :yawn:

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A European super league is looking like a serious possibility, even a probability, and the day that happens I'm done with football. I have no real connection to any European teams - no history no long established rivalry, hatred, or respect the way I do with English teams.

A European super league would be a fucking awful tedious sanitised super-monetised televisual event run by and populated by cùnts.

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This might well come across as harsh/cold but tbh I don't give a fcuk ………. I am sick of reading/hearing about the dead Leicester owner every single fcuking day :roll: There is no doubt that it was a tragedy and might have devastating long term effect on the football club, but some of the shite the players are coming out with is turning my stomach. Today I see an article from james Maddison in the sun saying what a brilliant man the guy was …… Maddison only joined them 4 months ago ffs. :oops: :oops:

Everything in today's world is done to excess and it fcuks me off tbh - be respectful to the man (and his family), but this is just overkill (absolutely no pun intended) and comes across as staged and for show :roll:

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Have to admit that my first reaction was....

It's always been just a matter of time.
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I've gotta be honest here. Us mods are supposed to read everything on this forum but you could have publicly named 54 paedophile celebrities and members of parliament there and I'll never ever know. :yawn:

:D :wink:
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Sorry, how rude of me....forgot the limited mental capacity of the mods on this site 8)

Abbreviated mods version -

Potential Euro league, we are listed...big club, scum are not...wanky club. EUFA quote about money....billions of it. Asian teams shouldn't be in UEFA competitions. :roll:

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augie wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:13 pm
This might well come across as harsh/cold but tbh I don't give a fcuk ………. I am sick of reading/hearing about the dead Leicester owner every single fcuking day :roll: There is no doubt that it was a tragedy and might have devastating long term effect on the football club, but some of the shite the players are coming out with is turning my stomach. Today I see an article from james Maddison in the sun saying what a brilliant man the guy was …… Maddison only joined them 4 months ago ffs. :oops: :oops:

Everything in today's world is done to excess and it fcuks me off tbh - be respectful to the man (and his family), but this is just overkill (absolutely no pun intended) and comes across as staged and for show :roll:
Pleased to hear that it's not just me then. The stadium announcement for the minutes silence at the bowl before Liverpool made out that he was something akin to a footballing superman not some rich businessman who could afford to buy a crap English football club. Show some respect for the man and his family by all means but ffs there are human tragedies on a daily basis that get fuck all coverage.

:rubchin: ......Hope wiggy has a fleet of helicopters

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