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I've loved the unbeaten run, but we have rode our luck a lot and now it's getting back to the old familiar frailties.
Gazidis and now seemingly Mislintat leaving is a bad sign. Dick is not being supported and our defence is a shambles. With that syrup cúnt now in total charge, Dick will have to perform miracles with that defence. Sure, there's a lot of rebuilding work to be done in the wake of the previous incumbent and his 'next level [down]', but with our board still penny-pinching, it's going to be a long road back to the top, if we ever get there.
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As i think it was SteveO and myself said way back when the protests against Wenger was starting to get into full swing there wasn't much point in leveraging Wenger successfully out the club if the bigger hinderance was still at the top, i think we may find over the remainder of this season and probably into the next how right that was
So we should have allowed Wenger to carry on despite his incompetence as a coach?
No but it makes no difference now anyway, whilst we were concentrating on removing Wenger the canny Yank bastard was intending on consolodating his hold on the club under the smoke screen. Wiggy has complete control and therefore it matters not who is manager, we either plump for whoever we have and support them no matter what is happening or we walk away (not an option).
Whilst Stan is in complete control nothing will change and i foresee a revolving door of managers getting the blame every few years we linger outside the Chumps league spots to deflect blame from the real issue so unless we are fortunate to get one who can massively imrpove things on a very small budget we're going potentially into an endless cycle of 5th or 6th place finishes. We as a fan base are very short sighted, many people were still loyal to the French con artist even as he was walking out the door, do you honestly see those same fans putting two and two together over the real issue at the club, not for a decade at least.
It will be nigh on impossible to remove Stan now unless he chooses to go and the only time extra money will be released is when it is to stop a revenue loss for the business, otherwise managers will have to carry on with minimum funds generated by club only revenue, self sustaining model in other words. I honestly dont think even if were lucky enough to fluke our way back into the Chumps League and then by some miracle win it Stan would make any more funds available than those generated, his perverse business brain would see extra funds as unnecessary.
Time will tell but the amount of money needed to mount a real challenge in the next few seasons is way beyond what we can generate in a self sustaining manner so it all falls down on the quality of the manager and i dont think there are many good enough managers out there who could make us challengers on a budget and also accept the way this club is run now
I've loved the unbeaten run, but we have rode our luck a lot and now it's getting back to the old familiar frailties.
Gazidis and now seemingly Mislintat leaving is a bad sign. Dick is not being supported and our defence is a shambles. With that syrup cúnt now in total charge, Dick will have to perform miracles with that defence. Sure, there's a lot of rebuilding work to be done in the wake of the previous incumbent and his 'next level [down]', but with our board still penny-pinching, it's going to be a long road back to the top, if we ever get there.
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As i think it was SteveO and myself said way back when the protests against Wenger was starting to get into full swing there wasn't much point in leveraging Wenger successfully out the club if the bigger hinderance was still at the top, i think we may find over the remainder of this season and probably into the next how right that was
It fucking wasn't. It was me - mostly alone too. I said Wenger was a symptom but Wiggy was the disease and I got lit up by most narrow visioned cùnts on here!
One gobshite was happy enough with Wiggy because he let Wenger spend some of the clubs own money ffs and that apparently was all an owner had to do!
For the record I still 100% believe that leveraging wenger out was absolutely the first thing that needed to be done regardless of who or what the owner is - what the wiggy c.unt will now discover, is that he no longer has a shield protecting him now that the senile French cock has been fcuked out. Regardless of how outdated wenger was, there was still far too many Gooners that still defended him, and that meant to focus was 100% on the battle to remove him - now the Gooner nation is unified (except sid of course ) and all frustration and vitrol will be directed at the slimy yank
And apparently there is a stand off at AC milan with Maldini & Gazidis because Gazidis doesn't want Ozil there.....pity he wasn't quite so vocal when Wenger decided to spunk away 350k per week on him
And apparently there is a stand off at AC milan with Maldini & Gazidis because Gazidis doesn't want Ozil there.....pity he wasn't quite so vocal when Wenger decided to spunk away 350k per week on him
100%
Scouse twat Carragher says it as it is:
Carragher wrote in his Telegraph column. ‘Now it is clear. He inherited a shambles. ‘An imbalanced squad, inconsistent star player, extravagant contracts way above market value, a highly-rated international running down his deal, a chief executive on his way out and a head of recruitment who, having made errors in a short period, is on the verge of leaving. ‘Emery has a mess to clean up. Worse still, there is no money available to start that lengthy process. This was not the job advertisement he responded to when Arsene Wenger’s exit was announced.
Look at United today - they have just drawn level with us after 5 league wins on the bounce.
To put it into perspective, they have some very exciting fast young players in Rashford, Martial and Lingard. The most expensive player in the league in Pogba. A proven PL winning quality CM in Matic, a plethora of 30m+ defenders and probably the best keeper on the planet.
People were up in arms because we only drew with them there (they’ve lost about PL 3 games out of 60 at home, 2 of those against City) yet being honest their squad is miles better than ours. We’ve got absolute garbage on our bench whilst they have multi-million players like Fellaini, Mata and Lukaku.
Alarmingly few people realise how shit our squad actually is and how shit our prospects are given that we have no money to spend whilst Chelsea can’t give Kovacic a game and spend a fortune on a kid from Dortmund with two Bundesliga goals this year who won’t even join until summer.
Fucking wake up. Anybody expecting the last 8-10 years of farce under Wenger not to have done massive long-term damage to the club is ducking dreaming.
Totally agree mate - seen as shameful on our part that Man U have pulled level. Its a fucking miracle we're level. They are rotating between Lukaku, Alexis, Rashford and Martial. We've got Auba, Lacazette......and er Nketiah (who is proving to be a one match legend like fucking Glenn Helder) and Saka
Got a feeling Emery's is gonna walk at the end of season. Hope I'm wrong but the current news items coming out the club sound precarious. No money, only loans. I'm pretty sure when they lured emery in from PSG they told him he'd have money to rebuild his team. All of a sudden the club is skint, yet had £200m in the bank 12 months ago???
I hope he doesn't go but the signs aren't good.
Got a feeling Emery's is gonna walk at the end of season. Hope I'm wrong but the current news items coming out the club sound precarious. No money, only loans. I'm pretty sure when they lured emery in from PSG they told him he'd have money to rebuild his team. All of a sudden the club is skint, yet had £200m in the bank 12 months ago???
I hope he doesn't go but the signs aren't good.
With the Adidas and the renegotiated Emirates deals coming into effect this summer Emery should have at least the same transfer budget as the last one. If we get into the Champions League then I can see him having about £100 million to spend. Considering we spent about £70 million during the last window I don't think that would be unreasonable.
If he did end up leaving though you'd have to respect his decision to not be a highly paid lackey for Kroenke like his predecessor.
He doesn’t get a free pass and the defence is the area where he has obviously fallen short since coming in.
That said he was forced to shop in the third or fourth tier of the market with Sokratis and Leno, and Lichtsteiner on a free. The team hasn’t had a clue how to defend or organise properly for a decade and that’s a lot of work to undo those ingrained mentalities and failings.
On top of that we have had injury after injury and more often than not in the past few months have had a defender going off injured. How many times have we started the same defence in consecutive games? Hardly helpful. Don’t suppose Liverpool would have been so mean at the back with van dijk constantly injured and having to use any fit defenders to plug holes week in week out.
The reality is he took over an awful defence. Cech is awful, Mustafi is a disaster, Koscielny’s legs are completely gone and that useless tool Xhaka was responsible for protecting them. Holding would be a decent defender for a lower PL side and Monreal and Bellerin are far worse than what our rivals have but not awful - all three have spent large chunks of the season injured.
Clearly we are entitled to expect some improvement on the defensive front but the problems are very deep-rooted and there are plenty of obstacles to turning things around. Primarily not being able to spunk away 50m+ on defensive players.
He doesn’t get a free pass and the defence is the area where he has obviously fallen short since coming in.
That said he was forced to shop in the third or fourth tier of the market with Sokratis and Leno, and Lichtsteiner on a free. The team hasn’t had a clue how to defend or organise properly for a decade and that’s a lot of work to undo those ingrained mentalities and failings.
On top of that we have had injury after injury and more often than not in the past few months have had a defender going off injured. How many times have we started the same defence in consecutive games? Hardly helpful. Don’t suppose Liverpool would have been so mean at the back with van dijk constantly injured and having to use any fit defenders to plug holes week in week out.
The reality is he took over an awful defence. Cech is awful, Mustafi is a disaster, Koscielny’s legs are completely gone and that useless tool Xhaka was responsible for protecting them. Holding would be a decent defender for a lower PL side and Monreal and Bellerin are far worse than what our rivals have but not awful - all three have spent large chunks of the season injured.
Clearly we are entitled to expect some improvement on the defensive front but the problems are very deep-rooted and there are plenty of obstacles to turning things around. Primarily not being able to spunk away 50m+ on defensive players.
Exactly as I see it mate. If he look at the additions he has brought in - with the exception of Lichsteiner - they have done ok I think. Sokratis was much more sound with a younger, more mobile centre half like Holding alongside him. I'd love to see any of the top managers in the league turn this defensive unit into anything better than mediocre. I'm hoping that young Mavropanos can provide another option in there and we clear out that waster Mustafi who someone might still pay us a few bob for, and would be another stealing a living with the wages he's on. Thought Mavropanos looked promising when he came in at the back end of last season.
If Dick has assembled his own back line and we're still picking up whallopings by 4+ goals deep into next season then I'll start to worry, but not just yet. Only City and Liverpool - the two stand out teams by a mile - have beaten us by more than 1 goal in the league this season, where as that disgusting old prick regular oversaw thrashing after thrashing.
Yes he inherited a badly balanced squad for sure worse than that the inflated wages of even players on the fringes are in fact a worse handicap we can't move them on let alone get a transfer fee.
For Emery it's a massive game tonight,lose and we should imo write off the rest of the league campaign and he should use it to work with the players he wants to play next season if that means a mix of young players like Mavrapanos coming in and getting a run I would support that fully,same for ESR,players with potential,tbh I would be playing them both as soon as they are fit.
If you are good enough,age makes no odds to me some of our experienced players have let us down,through frankly not being good enough and won't get any better,same mistakes again and again.
Play some younger players and stick with them if they show potential,they will make mistakes but we will benefit in the long run for that the manager needs to be brave.I support the manager the one area is again loyalty to players under performing and making the same errors again and again.That;s an area I question him Xhaka,Mustafi along with Iwobi getting picked on the basis of nothing I have seen to warrant a place.
Guys like Xhaka,Mustafi if they had been bought for there real market values around 5-10m would either be still being played I doubt it.Even in todays inflated market they were bought back in 2016,35m each whoever scouted them let alone the old regime that signed them,what did they see in either of them.I seriously scratch my head the more I watch the pair of them.Bang average.
One bad result tonight and it's really time to concentrate on the cups.
I've loved the unbeaten run, but we have rode our luck a lot and now it's getting back to the old familiar frailties.
Gazidis and now seemingly Mislintat leaving is a bad sign. Dick is not being supported and our defence is a shambles. With that syrup cúnt now in total charge, Dick will have to perform miracles with that defence. Sure, there's a lot of rebuilding work to be done in the wake of the previous incumbent and his 'next level [down]', but with our board still penny-pinching, it's going to be a long road back to the top, if we ever get there.
Well done tonight to the "clueless Spanish waiter"
If only we had a manager like Sarri (never won anything), Pochettino (never won anything) or Klopp (hundreds of millions spent and as yet in this country not to win anything). Perhaps six game Solskjaer is the man to turn round our fortunes
I suppose we always should have beaten them really having such expensive talents on display as Guendouzi, Elneny, Kolasinac, Koscielny, Maitland Niles etc, whilst they had to make do with cheap as chips twats like Hazard, David Luiz, the world's most expensive keeper, Rudiger, Kante, Jorginho etc
The performances at home against Liverpool, the scum and now again tonight have to be the benchmark going forward.
After the euphoria of victory in the NLD our season nose dived alarmingly, the key now is to kick on from here and not allow ourselves to fall back into the slow start insipid fooball that crept into our game.
Any defence without Mustafi in it is instantly stronger so hope to see his name off the team sheet in as many games as humanly possible.
Emery said after the game that the club are working on the Suarez deal so looks like that one will be completed soon.
He was talking about the instant gratification and extremist views with football - either everything is brilliant or shite depending on the result with a particularly good quote which I will post here:
"If this was a tweet I’d say in short, ’If you trust the coach to improve players and the situation, then look to that first. If not, look to signings. If neither works, then start shouting and screaming"
It was me - mostly alone too. I said Wenger was a symptom but Wiggy was the disease and I got lit up by most narrow visioned cùnts on here! 
) and all frustration and vitrol will be directed at the slimy yank
