Unai Emery

[goonersid]

Over the last few seasons the akb used to argue against getting rid of wenger (obviously), and one of their constants was the question "who could we get that is better to replace him cos we wont attract a top manager to join us ?" - this always pissed me off cos (a) I always felt it was disrespectful to the club to suggest that no top manager would want to be manager of The Arsenal and (b) it suggested that wenger was a good manager and couldnt be replaced, when the reality is that he was a past it c.unt and the manager of the horse and hound pub team would do a better job Now I have a question for all those fans that are already writing off dick, is there ANY MANAGER in the world that you think could do more than emery has with the players he has and the injuries that we have endured ? Seriously I am curious to see who people believe would believe could do a better job without having a massive transfer kitty behind them

Solskjaer?? He seems to be doing a better job with what you reckoned on another thread is a weaker squad than ours!!
All joking aside Augie, your turning into Swale except in defence of Emery

[OneBardGooner]

Have to say I agree with you Augie on this:

"is there ANY MANAGER in the world that you think could do more than emery has with the players he has and the injuries that we have endured ? Seriously I am curious to see who people believe would believe could do a better job without having a massive transfer kitty behind them"

99.9% of us on here wanted wenger Gone, but for me I didn't realise just how big of a Complete and Utter Mess he and GazidisCunt had left us in, particularly things like giving Ozil such a huge increase, whist also allowing ramsey's, wilshere's contracts to run down and the affects those things combined would have with the Fair Play rules on the 17% (?) allowance and of course Ramsey asking for considerably more money because, his thinking is if Ozil can get a £230k a week increase, then why can't I get silly money too? (FUCCCKKKK That figure is still un-friggin believable even in today's stupid pay rates for footballers climate)

I believe Emery could with the right players make us into a Team capable of challenging for all the trophies, but with Wiggycunt & son holding the purse strings that's not going to happen, so people calling for Emery's head already, who the fuck is going to achieve more with the exact same low level players that he inherited?

We have to give him 2 seasons at least and KroenkeCunt & Son MUST provide the investment, or we will become 6th position regulars.


KroenkeCunt is only interested in One thing Profit. He saw Arsenal as an easy way to make profit year in year out without lifting a finger or putting his hand in his pockets he is 100% Capitalist Businessman - Whatever we do or say bothers him not in the slightest, so the only way to get his attention; besides kidnapping someone he cares for and holding out for a ransom - is to Not Invest ANY money n the club, but he knows he's got us by the bollocks because Arsenal (and Football) is one of the most important things in all our lives, so we are caught between Rock and a Hard Place - I would imagine the only time he is interested in the outcome of a game is whether it will impact on the profit/s he so loves.

Arsenal is just a piece on the *word censored*.s monopoly board.

[augie]

Over the last few seasons the akb used to argue against getting rid of wenger (obviously), and one of their constants was the question "who could we get that is better to replace him cos we wont attract a top manager to join us ?" - this always pissed me off cos (a) I always felt it was disrespectful to the club to suggest that no top manager would want to be manager of The Arsenal and (b) it suggested that wenger was a good manager and couldnt be replaced, when the reality is that he was a past it c.unt and the manager of the horse and hound pub team would do a better job Now I have a question for all those fans that are already writing off dick, is there ANY MANAGER in the world that you think could do more than emery has with the players he has and the injuries that we have endured ? Seriously I am curious to see who people believe would believe could do a better job without having a massive transfer kitty behind them

Solskjaer?? He seems to be doing a better job with what you reckoned on another thread is a weaker squad than ours!!
All joking aside Augie, your turning into Swale except in defence of Emery

Let me clarify this for you sid - de gea is the best keeper in the world, but if you were to pick a combined back 4 at leaast three of those would be Arsenal players, and 2 of them didnt play at all last night (bellend and monreal) and the 3rd player (sokratis) went off injured with the score 0-0. I would pick torreira and guendozi ahead of matic and herrera every day of the week and twice on sundays. Where they are strong is up front (and I'm not saying that we arent) and when you have their strongest area playing against our weakest area, then there isnt much a manager can do

[Nos89]

I don't see how anyone can blame the manager at this stage of the season. I cannot think of another manager that would get the more from these players than Emery. Against United we lost a pivitol in form centre back. You could tell by the player' reaction and his team mates reaction to him going off show how important he has become. In the following 5 minutes united scored two goals. Arsenal had been building momentum and it slowed it down. When the club captain goes off in the 2nd half, again after the team being on top then the confidence of the team in the defence goes because you've got a dubious DM playing in defence. How could emery be blamed for that?
Also, how can he be blamed for the lack of defensive cover? I read that Charlie Nicholas said he needs to get rid of 6 of our 8 defenders. how is going to do that when he's got no money to replace? It isn't his fault that he has not yet had a full quota of defenders to be fit to settle on and coach his favoured back 4. Against Chelski he had arguably the strongest back 4 in bellerin, sokratis, koscielny, Kolasinac playing. But would Koscielny start if Holding was fit? We don't know as Emery hasn't had the opportunity to have this selection headache.
Maitland-Niles did a brilliant job on sanchez on Friday and I simply cannot believe how people on here are saying he's not good enough. He's not even a defender FFS!! Had the injury to sokratis and koscielny not happened we would've won that game.
Emery now has lost vital squad players to serious injury caused during matches that he has no control over, Welbeck, mkhi, holding, bellerin, sokratis, koscielny, the only squad in the league that could cope with 6 important players missing would be Man City.
Iwobi got taken off for Ozil bcause despite his strength, pace and getting the better of Ashley young, he just didn't know what to do with the ball when he got himself in dangerous positions and ended up losing possession. Can he be coached or does he simply panic and not know what to do when he's in a good position?
As for the dream of replicating the famous back 4 of GG's era, that will never happen again. We simply don't have a set of defenders that can stay fit for the duration of a whole season.

[northbank123]

Fair assessment that. AMN has acquitted himself well considering his age and that he isn’t a defender. But embarrassing that he is considered an option there.

Not sure Iwobi had the better of Young though. The one time he actually tried to skin him, he kicked the ball 25 yards past him and got done for pace completely even though Young was on the turn and is 33. Iwobi gives the illusion of being really lively but in reality there is just a lot of stepovers whilst standing still. When he does get into decent positions he just wallops the ball anywhere - could have rolled the ball across to Aubameyang to tap in during the first half but just kept his head down and passed it straight at the keeper. Ramsey got in once down the side and showed a bit of quality and composure that Iwobi never does.

I’m sorry but the bloke is simply never going to make it at this level (whether that’s title challengers, top 4 or top 6).

[DB10GOONER]

Fair assessment that. AMN has acquitted himself well considering his age and that he isn’t a defender. But embarrassing that he is considered an option there.

Not sure Iwobi had the better of Young though. The one time he actually tried to skin him, he kicked the ball 25 yards past him and got done for pace completely even though Young was on the turn and is 33. Iwobi gives the illusion of being really lively but in reality there is just a lot of stepovers whilst standing still. When he does get into decent positions he just wallops the ball anywhere - could have rolled the ball across to Aubameyang to tap in during the first half but just kept his head down and passed it straight at the keeper. Ramsey got in once down the side and showed a bit of quality and composure that Iwobi never does.

I’m sorry but the bloke is simply never going to make it at this level (whether that’s title challengers, top 4 or top 6).

A couple of things.....

Agreed 100% on Comedy Iwobi not having the better of Young. How anyone could think that is beyond me. That push and run he tried only for Young to catch up and then overtake him was embarrassing.

You've nailed the Comedy Iwobi myth. It's all bluff and bluster. A couple of not needed step overs here, a short dash there (before running out of ideas and inevitably turning back), a bit of a burst into the wrong position but hey he did a bit of running there huh.....

99% of the time he has no end product. He has no football brain. He has no vision. He has quite average to poor technique. He cannot pass. He cannot cross. His fat arses slows him down so he often cannot catch up with the play. He is like some type of fucked Alex Mong/Comedy Eboue hybrid.

Within a couple of seasons he'll be doing pointless step overs for Palace. A couple of years after that he'll be stinking up Bolton or Stoke or Peterborough.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

What I'd like to know is does dick have anything to do with the transfers, even if it is just mentioning the position we need strengthening in.

If so then I would have to say we got rid of Wenger (who continually bought lightweight attacking midfielders when we were desperate for defenders) and got a clone.

After all when he came here did he not say I prefer to win 5-4 than 1-0?

If he has no say whatsoever then whoever decides where we need strengthening needs to be fucked out the doorsharpish.

[DB10GOONER]

What I'd like to know is does dick have anything to do with the transfers, even if it is just mentioning the position we need strengthening in.

If so then I would have to say we got rid of Wenger (who continually bought lightweight attacking midfielders when we were desperate for defenders) and got a clone.

After all when he came here did he not say I prefer to win 5-4 than 1-0?

If he has no say whatsoever then whoever decides where we need strengthening needs to be fucked out the doorsharpish.

Well I did mention at the time that Dick had been gushing in his praise of Wenger (and always has been) and that he favoured a similar style but I got hit with "ooh he was only being polite".

I don't know. It may be that he was just being honest.

He may not be the right man for the job. That is a possibility. But obviously we have to give him a fair chance to show us one way or the other how suitable he is.

[augie]

What I'd like to know is does dick have anything to do with the transfers, even if it is just mentioning the position we need strengthening in.

If so then I would have to say we got rid of Wenger (who continually bought lightweight attacking midfielders when we were desperate for defenders) and got a clone.

After all when he came here did he not say I prefer to win 5-4 than 1-0?

If he has no say whatsoever then whoever decides where we need strengthening needs to be fucked out the doorsharpish.

Well I did mention at the time that Dick had been gushing in his praise of Wenger (and always has been) and that he favoured a similar style but I got hit with "ooh he was only being polite".

I don't know. It may be that he was just being honest.

He may not be the right man for the job. That is a possibility. But obviously we have to give him a fair chance to show us one way or the other how suitable he is.

That's shockingly harsh imo - if we are to believe that he is picking the players, then nobody could call torreira, sokratis, the dozi or lichsteiner as lightweight. Also, telling a manager that he has ZERO money to spend this month, and then expecting him to have a choice of players is unrealistic - it would be damn hard to find players available for loan, are of the required level, and are big physical powerhouses.
If he has no part of picking the players we buy, then he cant be blamed at all

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

What I'd like to know is does dick have anything to do with the transfers, even if it is just mentioning the position we need strengthening in.

If so then I would have to say we got rid of Wenger (who continually bought lightweight attacking midfielders when we were desperate for defenders) and got a clone.

After all when he came here did he not say I prefer to win 5-4 than 1-0?

If he has no say whatsoever then whoever decides where we need strengthening needs to be fucked out the doorsharpish.

Well I did mention at the time that Dick had been gushing in his praise of Wenger (and always has been) and that he favoured a similar style but I got hit with "ooh he was only being polite".

I don't know. It may be that he was just being honest.

He may not be the right man for the job. That is a possibility. But obviously we have to give him a fair chance to show us one way or the other how suitable he is.

That's shockingly harsh imo - if we are to believe that he is picking the players, then nobody could call torreira, sokratis, the dozi or lichsteiner as lightweight. Also, telling a manager that he has ZERO money to spend this month, and then expecting him to have a choice of players is unrealistic - it would be damn hard to find players available for loan, are of the required level, and are big physical powerhouses.
If he has no part of picking the players we buy, then he cant be blamed at all

Well as you can't know for sure if he has no part in picking players then your point is moot.

Plus torriera started ok but no one can disagree that he looks plain average now and lightweight would be an apt description.

Lichsteiner is shite.

Doozi by your own definition (in a recent post) is going backwards and giving simple 5 yards passes away and he definitely ain't no heavyweight, unless 10 stone is a heavyweight, that's about same weight as torri.

That leaves sokratis who is the best buy of the lot but again being average in a shite defence is hardly being brilliant. Let's face it when kos came back and got some game time he was our best defender by a mile.

[augie]

Torreira started the season on fire but it is true that his performances have dipped of late (fatigue after world cup and no mid-season break ?). The dozi's performances have dropped alarmingly for sure. Lichsteiner isnt good enough any more, but shite might be a bit harsh. Sokratis is a proper defender imo, but as you say. looking good in that defence wouldnt be hard.
Here's the thing though, your initial point (that I responded to) never mentioned their quality or performances, but merely referred to our transfer purchases as being lightweight attacking midfielders - in my opinion none of those purchases can be referred to as "lightweight" (although the dozi is beginning to get into the habit of falling down like a bitch anytime anyone breathes on him ).

Not sure what I said that was moot - I neither said that he has a part or doesnt have a part in transfers, so I never suggested I was sure

[goonersid]

Torreira started the season on fire but it is true that his performances have dipped of late (fatigue after world cup and no mid-season break ?). The dozi's performances have dropped alarmingly for sure. Lichsteiner isnt good enough any more, but shite might be a bit harsh. Sokratis is a proper defender imo, but as you say. looking good in that defence wouldnt be hard.
Here's the thing though, your initial point (that I responded to) never mentioned their quality or performances, but merely referred to our transfer purchases as being lightweight attacking midfielders - in my opinion none of those purchases can be referred to as "lightweight" (although the dozi is beginning to get into the habit of falling down like a bitch anytime anyone breathes on him ).

Not sure what I said that was moot - I neither said that he has a part or doesnt have a part in transfers, so I never suggested I was sure

On Torreira, I don’t think fatigue is to blame, he was rested after the world cup and used sparingly at the start of the season, I would point to him maybe becoming a little disheartened by the way we are performing also other teams are more aware of him.
On Dozy? he looks exactly what he is ie a skillful footballer plucked from a lower league, but lacks the guile and football brain to play at this level.
Lichsteiner isn’t capable of playing 3 or 4 games in a row and so imo was a complete waste of a wage bill.
Leno looks mediocre at best, a decent shop stopper, poor decision maker and awful on crosses, ie the kind of keeper you could find anywhere.
Sokratis, is cumbersome, slow, but an honest cb, would make a decent back up defender.
I find it hard to believe that a manager would have no say in who the club signs, and the fact that we are targetting players that Emery has managed before would back that up.

[DB10GOONER]

What I'd like to know is does dick have anything to do with the transfers, even if it is just mentioning the position we need strengthening in.

If so then I would have to say we got rid of Wenger (who continually bought lightweight attacking midfielders when we were desperate for defenders) and got a clone.

After all when he came here did he not say I prefer to win 5-4 than 1-0?

If he has no say whatsoever then whoever decides where we need strengthening needs to be fucked out the doorsharpish.

Well I did mention at the time that Dick had been gushing in his praise of Wenger (and always has been) and that he favoured a similar style but I got hit with "ooh he was only being polite".

I don't know. It may be that he was just being honest.

He may not be the right man for the job. That is a possibility. But obviously we have to give him a fair chance to show us one way or the other how suitable he is.

That's shockingly harsh imo - if we are to believe that he is picking the players, then nobody could call torreira, sokratis, the dozi or lichsteiner as lightweight. Also, telling a manager that he has ZERO money to spend this month, and then expecting him to have a choice of players is unrealistic - it would be damn hard to find players available for loan, are of the required level, and are big physical powerhouses.
If he has no part of picking the players we buy, then he cant be blamed at all

How is that by any stretch of the imagination "shockingly harsh"? Have you gone full snowflake buddy? Are we gonna have to set up a Facebook page and a gofundme thing to help you through your trauma here? Or did you just fuck the quoting pooch and meant to respond to Lefty's post rather than mine?

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

What I'd like to know is does dick have anything to do with the transfers, even if it is just mentioning the position we need strengthening in.

If so then I would have to say we got rid of Wenger (who continually bought lightweight attacking midfielders when we were desperate for defenders) and got a clone.

After all when he came here did he not say I prefer to win 5-4 than 1-0?

If he has no say whatsoever then whoever decides where we need strengthening needs to be fucked out the doorsharpish.

Well I did mention at the time that Dick had been gushing in his praise of Wenger (and always has been) and that he favoured a similar style but I got hit with "ooh he was only being polite".

I don't know. It may be that he was just being honest.

He may not be the right man for the job. That is a possibility. But obviously we have to give him a fair chance to show us one way or the other how suitable he is.

That's shockingly harsh imo - if we are to believe that he is picking the players, then nobody could call torreira, sokratis, the dozi or lichsteiner as lightweight. Also, telling a manager that he has ZERO money to spend this month, and then expecting him to have a choice of players is unrealistic - it would be damn hard to find players available for loan, are of the required level, and are big physical powerhouses.
If he has no part of picking the players we buy, then he cant be blamed at all

How is that by any stretch of the imagination "shockingly harsh"? Have you gone full snowflake buddy? Are we gonna have to set up a Facebook page and a gofundme thing to help you through your trauma here? Or did you just fuck the quoting pooch and meant to respond to Lefty's post rather than mine?

Leave me out of it littlin, Augie pm'd me after his post and clarified that it was your post he was whinging about and he'd fucked up his post by including my post because your post was shit, how many posts can you get in one post

[DB10GOONER]

What I'd like to know is does dick have anything to do with the transfers, even if it is just mentioning the position we need strengthening in.

If so then I would have to say we got rid of Wenger (who continually bought lightweight attacking midfielders when we were desperate for defenders) and got a clone.

After all when he came here did he not say I prefer to win 5-4 than 1-0?

If he has no say whatsoever then whoever decides where we need strengthening needs to be fucked out the doorsharpish.

Well I did mention at the time that Dick had been gushing in his praise of Wenger (and always has been) and that he favoured a similar style but I got hit with "ooh he was only being polite".

I don't know. It may be that he was just being honest.

He may not be the right man for the job. That is a possibility. But obviously we have to give him a fair chance to show us one way or the other how suitable he is.

That's shockingly harsh imo - if we are to believe that he is picking the players, then nobody could call torreira, sokratis, the dozi or lichsteiner as lightweight. Also, telling a manager that he has ZERO money to spend this month, and then expecting him to have a choice of players is unrealistic - it would be damn hard to find players available for loan, are of the required level, and are big physical powerhouses.
If he has no part of picking the players we buy, then he cant be blamed at all

How is that by any stretch of the imagination "shockingly harsh"? Have you gone full snowflake buddy? Are we gonna have to set up a Facebook page and a gofundme thing to help you through your trauma here? Or did you just fuck the quoting pooch and meant to respond to Lefty's post rather than mine?

Leave me out of it littlin, Augie pm'd me after his post and clarified that it was your post he was whinging about and he'd fucked up his post by including my post because your post was shit, how many posts can you get in one post

Wow you Ewoks have gotten aggressive since they left you out of the last couple of Star Wars movies huh?