[/quote]Herd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:23 pmLet me help you:Oh gee thanks obi 1 Kenobi
Fact 1- Even if the UK continued membership of the EU we will NOT make any contribution to a future bailout of any other EU member state. This was agreed in 2016 prior to the referendum.
We also did NOT assist the EU in the bailout of Greece, our only contribution came as a result of our membership of the International Monetary Fund. The UK has only contributed a total of 6.5 billion euros via the EU towards the bailouts of Ireland and Portugal. Nothing for Spain, nothing for Cyprus and nothing for Italy. If you are going to reference certain countries at least get them right.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36456277
These bailouts aren't interest-free loans, the countries that have lent money to Greece are getting their money back and some. Greece has now also successfully exited the bailout program. Italy has not received a bailout, although it is widely recognised that it could be the next country in the EU that requires a bailout. Given what happened with Greece and the IMF, it is highly likely that any Italian bailout would come from both the EU and the IMF, and yes we would have to contribute via our membership of the IMF. Should we leave the IMF as well What I meant was simple enough ,we pay far more in than we get out ,thus we subsidize the others ,no need for the lecture Flush
Quite what the Lisbon treaty has to do with anything is beyond me, even with an extension to Article 50, we should have left the EU in some shape or form by then. I'm not so sure we are leaving at the moment ,with No Credible Exit plan we may have to stay in . In that case Lisbon Treaty looms very large
Fact 2 - We CANNOT just import any goods without taxes or tariffs, for the EU without a trade deal we move onto WTO rules. The same applies with every non-EU country that we do not have a trade deal with. We could unilaterally apply zero tariffs but that would put our home producers especially in sectors like agriculture under pressure as importers undercut them, so that is very unlikely to happen. Sorry thats complete Tosh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36456277 The BBC is a state run propaganda machine ,they have no credibility anymore
Fact 3 - You say many non-EU migrants are not making a contribution. Wow just wow! Have you been to a corner shop, the local post office, hospitals or many local businesses that are run by non-EU immigrants. Then you come up with a sweeping figure of 50,000 professionals. If you are guessing, I would guess that the true figure is much higher than that. My Mistake apologies ,immigrants have made massive contributions to the Uk community and economy . What I meant to say is that recent immigration (last 20 years ) from non Eu counties tend to plug straight into the benefit system and don't work
Fact 4 - You are comparing the price of property in Berlin with London, have you checked that Berlin has amongst the highest property price rises in the world over the last few years? You invited me to name 1 major city in the world that was affordable and so mentioned Berlin which has very affordable housing and is the major driver of policy in the EU Germany
Why not compare it with a major city in another country. Try Paris, New York, Hong Kong, Singapore. You will find renting or buying in any of these cities isn't cheap. You say land banking is irrelevant when it comes to our housing market, how can that be so when its known property companies are hoarding 400,000+ plots that they should develop but they don't because it might affect their bottom line.
https://whoownsengland.org/2017/02/07/h ... happening/
What impact would putting 400,000 properties have on the UK market. It's not difficult to see prices and rentals would fall. So why is it irrelevant?I was simply stating that if you take in 250,000 net a year people and only build 140,000 houses then its unsustainable, thus the rest of your guff is irrelevant, I'm afraid you go off on too many tangents so I try to simplify it for you and not get too off piste
No doubt you'll just respond with more questionable statements. There's no question, your a pompous ass !
LOL is it really worth responding Herd. I think you're just shooting off the hip now. There is absolutely no substance to what you say. Champions League on tonight. I will just enjoy Mbappe pummelling manures defence.
