Other Matches Thread

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Tbf I'm jealous, we don't get nights like that at Arsenal anymore, in fact we get the fuckin opposite.

Think I will have to give football a miss for a while.

The most sensible thing you have said and I will join you .

This result is great but makes me more depressed about our awful shite display against Brighton . He should have them in tomorrow and make them watch a rerun of us Sunday and the victims tonight

The most sensible thing I've said

Thanks for your validation but fuck off

He’s right though.

Why because I disagree with the moronic sheep on here

[Gunner Rob]

Liverpool supporters at work ALREADY annoying me

I did say "good win last night" but of course that wasn't enough for them. the reply was "what do you mean good game, it was THE GREATEST game"

that is the problem with the scousers - with them everything has to be the biggest and the best, and more importantly about them.
if the scum win tonight then that will complete one of the bleakest 24 hours in football that I can remember.

[Bob Bayliss]

Liverpool have a visionary American owner who is prepared to invest properly in the club.

Liverpool have a proper manager who is capable of coaching and motivating the best, and developing good players to become better (the Ox seems to think so....he took a 60k a week pay cut to sign for them)

One thing they don't have is a shiny new stadium. They took the decision that they were better off staying in Anfield. It looks like they were very wise

[xisstential]

Kroenke doesn't splash money and invest like other billionaire owners....BUT Wenger did get money, he just spent it badly. Think what Ozil, Mustafi & Xhaka cost. Then you factor in the obscene wages he was paying sub standard players and you'll see it's not just about what we never got, it's the amount he squandered.

He could have bought a decent CH, probably 2, he could have bought a decent defensive midfielder (Kante??), he chose not to......he pissed away the money on dross....and then to boot, overpaid all the crap we had. And we're still paying them.

[augie]

Kroenke doesn't splash money and invest like other billionaire owners....BUT Wenger did get money, he just spent it badly. Think what Ozil, Mustafi & Xhaka cost. Then you factor in the obscene wages he was paying sub standard players and you'll see it's not just about what we never got, it's the amount he squandered.

He could have bought a decent CH, probably 2, he could have bought a decent defensive midfielder (Kante??), he chose not to......he pissed away the money on dross....and then to boot, overpaid all the crap we had. And we're still paying them.

AND HIM

[Clash]

Don’t know on what grounds some of us are calling Klopp bottler of finals.. only because he lost to a RM team that was shaky but picked up their game.

Even when he was in Bundesliga all the finals or cup games he lost he was never in control of the game or never up by a margin that can be classed as bottler. Most of the time he faced a Bayern team that was at the top of their game.

Sorry mate but that is total bollocks.

Any manager that loses 6 out of 7 finals is a bottler. Top managers win trophies. They don't pontificate about style and systems whilst winning nothing and losing final after final. Even if Stupid Teeth wins this one that's 2 wins in 8 finals. That's not the record of a top manager. That's a completely shit record. Benitez won the CL ffs and no one in their right mind would consider him a top manager because of that trophy. And he also won a lot more than Stupid Teeth has.

As sickening as any victim win is, the CL (which they haven't actually won yet btw ) is by far the lesser of two evils. The PL is the one they want. The CL is totally discredited as a competition. Champions? My arse. The Victim's are in the final of this competition for "champions" and have never won the domestic trophy that qualifies them as champions (since the switch to PL and CL).

When tiny shit clubs like the chavs can buy a trophy and 4th place teams can compete in it then you know it's fucked.

Once the victims don't win the PL I could not care less what they win tbh. Because if you think the shit you are hearing from the media now and the shit you'll hear if (IF) they win the CL is bad, you have no idea how fucking appalling the media shit will be if they win the PL.

Anyway there's a few of you Stupid Teeth / mouser fanboys need to put your knickers back on. They have won nothing at this stage and if history has shown us anything it's that Stupid Teeth is a serial bottler. Let him do what he does.

As for last night yes it was a great turnaround from 3-0 down but the main reason behind that was not an exceptional performance from the victims - it was because the Whores did a Wenger-era Arsenal and turned up cocky thinking the job was done and they got deservedly punished for their arrogance, stupidity and utter gash performance.

I'm confident Ajax will get past the vermin. Then it's anyone's game tbh. A one-off final between an unfancied Ajax and a team of cùnts managed by a serial bottler. My money is on Ajax.

The very thought of even the possibility of a victim vs scum final is unbearable to anyone that isn’t a JCL sawker fan cùnt. I'm sure we have a couple of twats on here hoping for such a final.....

Great post mate and especially the highlighted part.

Remember when we lost that 4-0 lead at Newcastle ... we were (rightly I might add) slagged off mercilessly. And that was with a sending off and a couple of outrageous penalty decisions given by that fat cunnt Phil Dowd!

Newcastle, and Liverpool last night, maybe deserve some praise for even attempting to come back but the point is that any team that loses a lead like that should be ashamed and the attention should be on that. Barcelona were absolutely disgraceful and the fact they did the same last season against Roma shows they're too arrogant to learn lessons.

The media are inevitably wanking themselves into oblivion over this and will just say anyone not joining in is bitter. Again missing the point.

I was hoping something major like the Queen croaking would gonna happen just to take the attention away from them but knowing the media the Queens demise would have been relegated to the ''in other news'' section anyway so it wouldn't have mattered.

[CloakedGooner]

I heard plenty of nauseating shite from the commentators last night such as "the kop are sucking the ball into the net"
Just FUCK OFF YOU MURDERING

[Bob Bayliss]

I've been waiting for someone to challenge this 'groupthink', but it aint happening so here goes. It's classless.

By all means, dislike the supporters. In my view there's a lot to dislike. Leaving aside the whole 'victim' mentality, there are some pretty unsavoury elements among them. My life still flashes before me when I remember being up there for the first leg of the 1978 League Cup semi-final, when for some reason our coaches dropped us off in the back-streets which surround the ground where we were sitting targets. Next thing I knew, a massive pane of glass was winging its way over the houses and heading for me. I remember diving into a chippy.

But this team are bloody good. They have lost one premier league match all season, 2-1 at Manchester City. They have reached consecutive Champions' League finals. They have three world-class forwards, and a formidable defence which Klopp built, helped by the sale of Coutinho but also by identifying players who would turn his side from good to great. They have a very strong squad, as last night proved.

To suggest the Champions' League is a poor competition and that Barcelona are rubbish is sour grapes. The cream of European football invariably gets through to the knockout stages of the CL. It's the Europa League that is the poor relation these days: Fulham have been in the final within the last decade.

I hope Ajax win the CL as much as any of you. But even if the team and club we support have lost pretty much everything that made them classy and respected, it doesn't mean we have to. Let's give credit where it's due.

[augie]

I've been waiting for someone to challenge this 'groupthink', but it aint happening so here goes. It's classless.

By all means, dislike the supporters. In my view there's a lot to dislike. Leaving aside the whole 'victim' mentality, there are some pretty unsavoury elements among them. My life still flashes before me when I remember being up there for the first leg of the 1978 League Cup semi-final, when for some reason our coaches dropped us off in the back-streets which surround the ground where we were sitting targets. Next thing I knew, a massive pane of glass was winging its way over the houses and heading for me. I remember diving into a chippy.

But this team are bloody good. They have lost one premier league match all season, 2-1 at Manchester City. They have reached consecutive Champions' League finals. They have three world-class forwards, and a formidable defence which Klopp built, helped by the sale of Coutinho but also by identifying players who would turn his side from good to great. They have a very strong squad, as last night proved.

To suggest the Champions' League is a poor competition and that Barcelona are rubbish is sour grapes. The cream of European football invariably gets through to the knockout stages of the CL. It's the Europa League that is the poor relation these days: Fulham have been in the final within the last decade.

I hope Ajax win the CL as much as any of you. But even if the team and club we support have lost pretty much everything that made them classy and respected, it doesn't mean we have to. Let's give credit where it's due.

You think so ?? Take van dijk out of that defence and see if it is formidable - he is holding an average defence together

[xisstential]

I've been waiting for someone to challenge this 'groupthink', but it aint happening so here goes. It's classless.

By all means, dislike the supporters. In my view there's a lot to dislike. Leaving aside the whole 'victim' mentality, there are some pretty unsavoury elements among them. My life still flashes before me when I remember being up there for the first leg of the 1978 League Cup semi-final, when for some reason our coaches dropped us off in the back-streets which surround the ground where we were sitting targets. Next thing I knew, a massive pane of glass was winging its way over the houses and heading for me. I remember diving into a chippy.

But this team are bloody good. They have lost one premier league match all season, 2-1 at Manchester City. They have reached consecutive Champions' League finals. They have three world-class forwards, and a formidable defence which Klopp built, helped by the sale of Coutinho but also by identifying players who would turn his side from good to great. They have a very strong squad, as last night proved.

To suggest the Champions' League is a poor competition and that Barcelona are rubbish is sour grapes. The cream of European football invariably gets through to the knockout stages of the CL. It's the Europa League that is the poor relation these days: Fulham have been in the final within the last decade.

I hope Ajax win the CL as much as any of you. But even if the team and club we support have lost pretty much everything that made them classy and respected, it doesn't mean we have to. Let's give credit where it's due.

The first leg flattered Barca.... they were getting outrun and outplayed for the 25 minutes after halftime....Barca scored and then the Messi free kick and that was it....and they could quite easily have got another. BUT, on overall performance they did not deserve to win 3 - 0. I don't think they are a poor side but take Messi out and how good are they really?? Their defending last night came straight out of the Wenger/Bould playbook. Newcastle gave them a tougher game.

The problem with Liverpool is the fawning over them by the press, all the scouse pundits in the studio and their odious fans......that is what blinds people to the football the team play. City play sublime football at times, you don't hear the commentators behave like they do when Liverpool play.

[DB10GOONER]

I've been waiting for someone to challenge this 'groupthink', but it aint happening so here goes. It's classless.

By all means, dislike the supporters. In my view there's a lot to dislike. Leaving aside the whole 'victim' mentality, there are some pretty unsavoury elements among them. My life still flashes before me when I remember being up there for the first leg of the 1978 League Cup semi-final, when for some reason our coaches dropped us off in the back-streets which surround the ground where we were sitting targets. Next thing I knew, a massive pane of glass was winging its way over the houses and heading for me. I remember diving into a chippy.

But this team are bloody good. They have lost one premier league match all season, 2-1 at Manchester City. They have reached consecutive Champions' League finals. They have three world-class forwards, and a formidable defence which Klopp built, helped by the sale of Coutinho but also by identifying players who would turn his side from good to great. They have a very strong squad, as last night proved.

To suggest the Champions' League is a poor competition and that Barcelona are rubbish is sour grapes. The cream of European football invariably gets through to the knockout stages of the CL. It's the Europa League that is the poor relation these days: Fulham have been in the final within the last decade.

I hope Ajax win the CL as much as any of you. But even if the team and club we support have lost pretty much everything that made them classy and respected, it doesn't mean we have to. Let's give credit where it's due.

"The cream of European football invariably gets through to the knockout stages of the CL".

Fuck me. Someone thinks the scum from N17 are the "cream of European football".

Forget your silly "groupthink" on here comment and get over the groupthink you have bought into in the media ffs. Anyone that has actually watched the victims' games this season can tell you they have been more than lucky and have had terrible refereeing decision after terrible decision go their way. They are a good side but not a great side and - vitally - a side that has not won a trophy since the league cup in 2012 and the FA Cup 6 years previous to that. Hmmmm how many finals have they lost since footballing genius Stupid Teeth took over......?

You want to talk about classless? Classless is a club that propagates the myths of Hillsborough and Heysel, that refuses to address the same turnstile-charging ticket stealing thuggery that caused Hillsborough and Athens and still goes on today. Classless is airbrushing from history the fact their fans murdered 39 innocent Italian fans.

As for the Whores - are you seriously saying they were not appalling last night? What dept in SlySports do you work in?

[Clash]

Did anyone see the ''Two Tribes'' BT Sport documentary? It was on last week but repeated last night

It was about Everton and Liverpool and the city of Liverpool itself. Pretty well made and very interesting I thought and despite my fears it didnt sugar-coat them as much as I expected and is well worth a watch. Showed what a shithole the city was (still is?).

Obviously it trod carefully when it touched on the two 'H' disasters but it wouldnt have got aired otherwise

What it did show was the infamous scenes prior to the all merseyside 1986 FA Cup final where ticketless scousers from both sides were bunking in for nothing. Interesting that they used the term ''risking their lives to get in'' but will never dare to say ''risking the lives of others to get ''.

Other things it showed that I had forgotten about was the 1989 all merseyside final (post Hillsborough) where again scousers (of both sides )invaded the pitch at Wembley at various times and at the final whistle - taking full advantage of the fences being taken down (pitch invasions were one of the reasons they were erected in the first place) just weeks after Hillsborough!

Also the look on Princess Margaret's face when the national anthem was drowned out made me smile.

And maybe I misheard or misunderstood what she meant, but one woman on there suggested the constant ''demonising of a city'' later led to deadly consequences. Harry Enfield's scosuers ''calm down. calm down'' sketches was even mentioned as it was about southerners taking the piss out of northerners etc. and giving the wrong impression of them (I thought they were meant to have a sense of humour )

The conclusion (I think) was that the people from the city are ''rebellious and stubborn but good people''.

Worth a watch in my opinion because it also shows what a great game football was back then. And I've always quite liked the Everton side of the mid-80s.

[Clash]

Oh and right at the very end it said:

'Between 1980 - 1990 merseyside won nine league titles - neither club has won it since '' .... please please please let that still be the case this time next week !

[xisstential]

Did anyone see the ''Two Tribes'' BT Sport documentary? It was on last week but repeated last night

It was about Everton and Liverpool and the city of Liverpool itself. Pretty well made and very interesting I thought and despite my fears it didnt sugar-coat them as much as I expected and is well worth a watch. Showed what a shithole the city was (still is?).

Obviously it trod carefully when it touched on the two 'H' disasters but it wouldnt have got aired otherwise

What it did show was the infamous scenes prior to the all merseyside 1986 FA Cup final where ticketless scousers from both sides were bunking in for nothing. Interesting that they used the term ''risking their lives to get in'' but will never dare to say ''risking the lives of others to get ''.

Other things it showed that I had forgotten about was the 1989 all merseyside final (post Hillsborough) where again scousers (of both sides )invaded the pitch at Wembley at various times and at the final whistle - taking full advantage of the fences being taken down (pitch invasions were one of the reasons they were erected in the first place) just weeks after Hillsborough!

Also the look on Princess Margaret's face when the national anthem was drowned out made me smile.

And maybe I misheard or misunderstood what she meant, but one woman on there suggested the constant ''demonising of a city'' later led to deadly consequences. Harry Enfield's scosuers ''calm down. calm down'' sketches was even mentioned as it was about southerners taking the piss out of northerners etc. and giving the wrong impression of them (I thought they were meant to have a sense of humour )

The conclusion (I think) was that the people from the city are ''rebellious and stubborn but good people''.

Worth a watch in my opinion because it also shows what a great game football was back then. And I've always quite liked the Everton side of the mid-80s.

Intolerant, violent & murderous but all in all, jolly good fun

[Jock Gooner]

I've been waiting for someone to challenge this 'groupthink', but it aint happening so here goes. It's classless.

By all means, dislike the supporters. In my view there's a lot to dislike. Leaving aside the whole 'victim' mentality, there are some pretty unsavoury elements among them. My life still flashes before me when I remember being up there for the first leg of the 1978 League Cup semi-final, when for some reason our coaches dropped us off in the back-streets which surround the ground where we were sitting targets. Next thing I knew, a massive pane of glass was winging its way over the houses and heading for me. I remember diving into a chippy.

But this team are bloody good. They have lost one premier league match all season, 2-1 at Manchester City. They have reached consecutive Champions' League finals. They have three world-class forwards, and a formidable defence which Klopp built, helped by the sale of Coutinho but also by identifying players who would turn his side from good to great. They have a very strong squad, as last night proved.

To suggest the Champions' League is a poor competition and that Barcelona are rubbish is sour grapes. The cream of European football invariably gets through to the knockout stages of the CL. It's the Europa League that is the poor relation these days: Fulham have been in the final within the last decade.

I hope Ajax win the CL as much as any of you. But even if the team and club we support have lost pretty much everything that made them classy and respected, it doesn't mean we have to. Let's give credit where it's due.

I love to see a progressive, positive thinking liberal approach to the victims, how cute Sorry but their fans are a shower of shite so that condemns the club too as far as I'm concerned. Not very enlightened or classy but I really don't care.