goonersid wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:35 pm
SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:32 am
DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:24 pm
SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:28 pm
DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:46 pm
The thing I think a couple of you lads are either entirely missing - or are just plain ignoring - is that the players we have on staff to replace those "senior players" are actually far worse players - with the exception of Martinelli obviously.
We have one of the worst weakest squads in our history at the moment.
AM-N, Willock, Nelson, the injured Chambers are all garbage of varying degrees at present and none of them are capable of stepping into that team and improving it right now. And some of them never will be.
Arteta is not experienced enough to find a solution to this but let's not rewrite the past ffs. We were complete shit under the likeable Emery. It's like last season's utter collapse in the easy PL run in and the debacle of the EL final and the completely shit chaos early this season never happened ! And hey let's not forget it was Dick that signed Pepe (the club record signing ffs) and Sideshow Chav too.
The situation with the squad is no worse for Arteta than it was for Emery - yet again people discounting the arguments for Emery and awarding them to Arteta. 22 games unbeaten before season long injuries to two of the defenders in the backline plus Welbeck. What was the quality of the replacements like for him? Oh yeah the very same AMN and Mustafi that everyone discredits now.....poor Mikel eh. I seem to remember it was Dick who brought Martinelli too and gave him the platform that everyone now craves to see him on
Everyone just brings up the last few games of last season and the last 7 or so before he left this season - the fact that he got a worse squad than this one to within a whisker of the CL on two scores was a miracle. This imposter won't achieve that in three seasons let alone one. We're also in a lower position now this season than when Dick left. Unbelievable that the c.unts we were on the verge of getting rid of like Mustafi, Xhaka and Ozil are all now main stays - going backwards fast
Welwide? Fuck me him being fit or not made zero difference. The guy was proper shit.
Mate be honest you know it was far more than just the last few games of last season and the last 7 or so before he left this season that showed Emery wasn't up to the job. We were woeful under him for most of his spell.
The 22 game unbeaten run was as much luck as anything. The players had no idea what he wanted. We had no system. That end of season collapse and the embarrassing rogering in the EL final were just symptoms of the wider problems under Dick.
You are comparing the position Dick "achieved" after a year and a half before he got sacked with the position Arteta has "achieved" in 10 games? Not really a level playing field that is it?
I love that comment! Always out of the mouths of those sucking Arteta's pipe after the marvellous 2020 unbeaten run which saw us draw with Crystal Palace, Burnley, Sheffield United, beat Leeds 1-0 after a first half dicking, and cling on for dear life to win 2-1 at Bournemouth Reserves
22 games of luck under Emery. 10 games of Barca-esque brilliance under the Cone Man - I do it love it round here sometimes
The unbeaten run under Emery was the most fortuitous run in football history! Wasteful opposition, offside goals, dreadful performances which somehow yielded wins.
And his failure to qualify for clge last season from the simplest of positions, was sackable on its own!
Emery was a fucking clown, which could possibly explain you’re continued defence of his reign!
Other than a couple of loan signings, none of this squad can be attributed to Arteta, as I said before Arteta needs a Summer transfer window, then if we don’t see a significant improvement, then we can question his future!
Thus far I still think he is getting more (no matter how little) out of Wenger and Emery’s mistakes!
Thursdays result was disappointing but with plge results this weekend going our way, I think there’s still a chance we can get clge football next season.
Sid, with the greatest of respect that is a load of bollox
For starters you say that arteta is getting more from this team - are you judging that on the basis of beating a shit manure team plus wins over leeds and everton, or on the basis of draws against Bournemouth, palace, Sheffield utd and burnley ?? Show me the overall stats from those games that back up your nonsense claims about getting more from them cos points and wins are certainly not better.
Secondly (and more importantly), I don't give a flying fcuk how fortuitous some of those results are, because it is a results business and he was getting them at that time. Are we only allowed to label emery lucky, or can we label arteta as lucky too, cos he was steeped that jay rodriguez (burnley) and the entire leeds teams are shit, cos otherwise both of those results would have been defeats too
This weekend we are all celebrating the preservation of the ONLY invinceable season but that season we had our fair share of luck too - pompey result anyone ? Are we that arrogant that we dont want lucky results or are willing to dismiss them ? Should we only be allowed get wins playing tika taka too, cos anything else is beneath us ?
Emery is a clown ? I dont think I have ever seen a manager getting tactically raped as much as arteta did at home v the chavs - I have seen wenger's inability to adapt to thuggish blanket defence football, but fat frank changed his gameplan mid-way through the first half at the grove and the teflon manager had zero answer to it. You tell me who looked like the clown that day