
This is a MUST Watch. 41 Minutes long and it just makes Wrighty all the more Lovable...
He oozes Passion for Football!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUHRvNYug0A



I don’t read a Newspaper as I don’t need them to tell me how to think! Particularly one owned by Right Wing ‘Apologists’. Guess you’ll be wanting all those immigrant NHS workers to go home as your newspaper of choice seems to want? And how has the Government scared everyone silly? I think the figures speak for themselves. 35000 and rising! Isn’t that enough to warrant just requiring the correct levels of safety in schools? We’ve all seen how they fucked up and lied with care homes. Then you tell me to ‘sit on my arse’! Bit of an uninformed presumption there as apart from the first couple of weeks, I have ended up working through this. I asked you if you are happy in yourself because you seem a very bitter and angry individual at a time when the nation needs unity.Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:55 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:44 pmThe Torygraph! Forgot to add that on the last post. Might have guessed. Just another right wing, xenophobic rag passing itself off as a newspaper. ‘Before they lift a finger’ ? Do you realise the amount of work they are doing from home or going in to teach the children of key workers anyway where they are able to control distancing. All the teachers want is a safe workplace and practises where things can be controlled. Do they belong in the ‘hypocrites sitting on their arses‘ category? Are you happy in yourself?Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:09 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 1:38 pmWell all I can say is I hope your wife doesn’t catch it or is a carrier who passes it on to one of the kids who then brings it home to mum, dad or the grandparents. Maybe if the leadership was not so full of bullshit and lies, there might be some clearer guidance from the scientists and medical specialists instead of the demonising of teachers and people like you calling them ‘fannies’! Do you read the Daily Mail or The Sun?
The Telegraph for me thanks, I can cope with big words!
Well we kind of all hope that that's the case don't we but there has to be a limit to how long we go into hiding.
I'm not demonising teachers, I'm having a pop at every hypocrite sat on their arse at home who expects the world to be made safe for them before they lift a finger. These people expect everybody else to go to work and to deal with the virus.....just not them!!
Ah so no doubt you read a wet liberal rag for hand wringing apologists. The Guardian or the Mirror no doubt. Before you get on your moral high horse did you actually read my post. Try again. My wife is doing all that on a daily basis including going into classes for key worker kids and posting all sorts of stuff online for the kids at home not just spouting about it as some are.
The teachers at her place want to get back to work properly but the govt has scared everyone silly and the unions are playing politics. Please explain to me what safe really is? What do you think my wife does when a little kid falls over and hurts themselves?? Yes that's right she comforts them and looks after them. Sorry, did you think she maintained a 2m distance and threw a plaster at them. You sit on your arse until you feel safe again though.
Who the hell says "are you happy in yourself." How old are you? That's the sort of crap my daughter would say. But seeing as you ask, I am perfectly happy thanks as I'm quite capable of thinking for myself.
goonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:26 pmI don’t read a Newspaper as I don’t need them to tell me how to think! Particularly one owned by Right Wing ‘Apologists’. Guess you’ll be wanting all those immigrant NHS workers to go home as your newspaper of choice seems to want? And how has the Government scared everyone silly? I think the figures speak for themselves. 35000 and rising! Isn’t that enough to warrant just requiring the correct levels of safety in schools? We’ve all seen how they fucked up and lied with care homes. Then you tell me to ‘sit on my arse’! Bit of an uninformed presumption there as apart from the first couple of weeks, I have ended up working through this. I asked you if you are happy in yourself because you seem a very bitter and angry individual at a time when the nation needs unity.Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:55 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:44 pmThe Torygraph! Forgot to add that on the last post. Might have guessed. Just another right wing, xenophobic rag passing itself off as a newspaper. ‘Before they lift a finger’ ? Do you realise the amount of work they are doing from home or going in to teach the children of key workers anyway where they are able to control distancing. All the teachers want is a safe workplace and practises where things can be controlled. Do they belong in the ‘hypocrites sitting on their arses‘ category? Are you happy in yourself?Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:09 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 1:38 pmWell all I can say is I hope your wife doesn’t catch it or is a carrier who passes it on to one of the kids who then brings it home to mum, dad or the grandparents. Maybe if the leadership was not so full of bullshit and lies, there might be some clearer guidance from the scientists and medical specialists instead of the demonising of teachers and people like you calling them ‘fannies’! Do you read the Daily Mail or The Sun?
The Telegraph for me thanks, I can cope with big words!
Well we kind of all hope that that's the case don't we but there has to be a limit to how long we go into hiding.
I'm not demonising teachers, I'm having a pop at every hypocrite sat on their arse at home who expects the world to be made safe for them before they lift a finger. These people expect everybody else to go to work and to deal with the virus.....just not them!!
Ah so no doubt you read a wet liberal rag for hand wringing apologists. The Guardian or the Mirror no doubt. Before you get on your moral high horse did you actually read my post. Try again. My wife is doing all that on a daily basis including going into classes for key worker kids and posting all sorts of stuff online for the kids at home not just spouting about it as some are.
The teachers at her place want to get back to work properly but the govt has scared everyone silly and the unions are playing politics. Please explain to me what safe really is? What do you think my wife does when a little kid falls over and hurts themselves?? Yes that's right she comforts them and looks after them. Sorry, did you think she maintained a 2m distance and threw a plaster at them. You sit on your arse until you feel safe again though.
Who the hell says "are you happy in yourself." How old are you? That's the sort of crap my daughter would say. But seeing as you ask, I am perfectly happy thanks as I'm quite capable of thinking for myself.
GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:42 pmSorry but i have to agree with Jock on this, teachers have been whining for years over Government interference, now they along with their respective Unions are whining about not being given enough guidance. FFS they are the professionals in their respective professions so they should be coming up with solutions like every other business out there trying to get back in to working order.....
Sorry but it doesnt wash for me when Teachers earning considerably more than your average supermarket worker, delivery driver or care worker are able to avoid their responsibilities to the young of the country en masse, but hey they're ok on 100% wages able to work from home unlike a large part of the population who are dependant on their kids going to school so the parents can in turn earn a living, many of whom have been having to put themselves at risk out at work during the peak of the crisis![]()
Not sure what your skin colour or ethnicity has to do with it? Strange point that! Migrants come from all over the world don’t you know? But by buying the Torygraph and taking in all it’s poisonous divisiveness you are supporting it’s agenda and fuelling the hatred. I just think things should take as long as it needs if that means sparing many more lives. This crisis is unprecedented in our lifetime and it needs to be dealt with humanely and sparingly to reduce the death toll. Or are you happy for there to be ‘collateral damage’ with further losses due to the rush back to work and school?Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 5:09 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:26 pmI don’t read a Newspaper as I don’t need them to tell me how to think! Particularly one owned by Right Wing ‘Apologists’. Guess you’ll be wanting all those immigrant NHS workers to go home as your newspaper of choice seems to want? And how has the Government scared everyone silly? I think the figures speak for themselves. 35000 and rising! Isn’t that enough to warrant just requiring the correct levels of safety in schools? We’ve all seen how they fucked up and lied with care homes. Then you tell me to ‘sit on my arse’! Bit of an uninformed presumption there as apart from the first couple of weeks, I have ended up working through this. I asked you if you are happy in yourself because you seem a very bitter and angry individual at a time when the nation needs unity.Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:55 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:44 pmThe Torygraph! Forgot to add that on the last post. Might have guessed. Just another right wing, xenophobic rag passing itself off as a newspaper. ‘Before they lift a finger’ ? Do you realise the amount of work they are doing from home or going in to teach the children of key workers anyway where they are able to control distancing. All the teachers want is a safe workplace and practises where things can be controlled. Do they belong in the ‘hypocrites sitting on their arses‘ category? Are you happy in yourself?Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:09 pm
The Telegraph for me thanks, I can cope with big words!
Well we kind of all hope that that's the case don't we but there has to be a limit to how long we go into hiding.
I'm not demonising teachers, I'm having a pop at every hypocrite sat on their arse at home who expects the world to be made safe for them before they lift a finger. These people expect everybody else to go to work and to deal with the virus.....just not them!!
Ah so no doubt you read a wet liberal rag for hand wringing apologists. The Guardian or the Mirror no doubt. Before you get on your moral high horse did you actually read my post. Try again. My wife is doing all that on a daily basis including going into classes for key worker kids and posting all sorts of stuff online for the kids at home not just spouting about it as some are.
The teachers at her place want to get back to work properly but the govt has scared everyone silly and the unions are playing politics. Please explain to me what safe really is? What do you think my wife does when a little kid falls over and hurts themselves?? Yes that's right she comforts them and looks after them. Sorry, did you think she maintained a 2m distance and threw a plaster at them. You sit on your arse until you feel safe again though.
Who the hell says "are you happy in yourself." How old are you? That's the sort of crap my daughter would say. But seeing as you ask, I am perfectly happy thanks as I'm quite capable of thinking for myself.
Think you'll find that the right wing aren't the apologist type but never mind.
So you have a dig at me for an uninformed presumption about you working but by the time you type that you have already accused me of wanting immigrant NHS workers to go home. Bit rich that dont you think? Slightly presumptuous even. You don't actually know my ethnicity or skin colour and you throw that accusation in the ring. Classy albeit highly predictable.
Of course the govt has scared everyone silly, that's the reason some will not go back to work. How on earth are we going to socially distance a class of 30 kids? Please tell me.
The figures do speak for themselves but only if you look behind the headline figure and apply some thought. Try it. It's not about saving lives, it's about not making the government look bad if the nhs collapsed and always has been. I've said that on here several times.
35000 and rising - slowly. Here is a fact for you, about 44000 people die every month in the UK as a matter of course. The virus needs to be treated with a degree of respect and there are families who really should be looking after themselves and I would make every concession for them. The problem is that when everyone is howling about being safe the ones who genuinely are at risk are lost in the noise which is wrong.
But the rest of us need to grow up, wash our hands, be sensible and get on with it.
augie wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 5:32 pmGoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:42 pmSorry but i have to agree with Jock on this, teachers have been whining for years over Government interference, now they along with their respective Unions are whining about not being given enough guidance. FFS they are the professionals in their respective professions so they should be coming up with solutions like every other business out there trying to get back in to working order.....
Sorry but it doesnt wash for me when Teachers earning considerably more than your average supermarket worker, delivery driver or care worker are able to avoid their responsibilities to the young of the country en masse, but hey they're ok on 100% wages able to work from home unlike a large part of the population who are dependant on their kids going to school so the parents can in turn earn a living, many of whom have been having to put themselves at risk out at work during the peak of the crisis![]()
Different country I know, but I agree with both of ye on how pampered teachers are. Over here our leaving cert students (equivalent of your A levels), are having their grades decided by an accumulation of teacher gradings, mock test results, and average result tests over the last few years - these are the most important results of the secondary school lives and will have a huge impact on what college courses and jobs they can get, and the want it decided by some mish mash b.ullshit like this ?? I hear people saying that exams cant go ahead cos of social distancing, but all over the country there are empty primary and secondary schools and classrooms that they could utilise by spreading out the kids sitting the exams, but that would need more people to supervise exams and there is no chance that teachers will agree to do that despite being fully paid whilst sitting at home on their arses for the past 3 months![]()
No doubt the world as it currently is is a mess, but it is a mess where people should all pull together to work things out instead of one group sitting back and waiting for everyone else to do what is necessary - if this was a virus that we knew would last for x number of weeks or months then I would understand (maybe) people's reluctance to put themselves out there, but this virus could be around for years so at what stage are they gonna get back to living life ? It is an excuse for some to stay at home on full pay, and especially those working in the public sector![]()
Btw Jock, I could be reading it wrong, but I thought that your original post was having a pop at parents more than teachers - am I wrong ?![]()
goonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 5:50 pmNot sure what your skin colour or ethnicity has to do with it? Strange point that! Migrants come from all over the world don’t you know? But by buying the Torygraph and taking in all it’s poisonous divisiveness you are supporting it’s agenda and fuelling the hatred. I just think things should take as long as it needs if that means sparing many more lives. This crisis is unprecedented in our lifetime and it needs to be dealt with humanely and sparingly to reduce the death toll. Or are you happy for there to be ‘collateral damage’ with further losses due to the rush back to work and school?Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 5:09 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:26 pmI don’t read a Newspaper as I don’t need them to tell me how to think! Particularly one owned by Right Wing ‘Apologists’. Guess you’ll be wanting all those immigrant NHS workers to go home as your newspaper of choice seems to want? And how has the Government scared everyone silly? I think the figures speak for themselves. 35000 and rising! Isn’t that enough to warrant just requiring the correct levels of safety in schools? We’ve all seen how they fucked up and lied with care homes. Then you tell me to ‘sit on my arse’! Bit of an uninformed presumption there as apart from the first couple of weeks, I have ended up working through this. I asked you if you are happy in yourself because you seem a very bitter and angry individual at a time when the nation needs unity.Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:55 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:44 pm
The Torygraph! Forgot to add that on the last post. Might have guessed. Just another right wing, xenophobic rag passing itself off as a newspaper. ‘Before they lift a finger’ ? Do you realise the amount of work they are doing from home or going in to teach the children of key workers anyway where they are able to control distancing. All the teachers want is a safe workplace and practises where things can be controlled. Do they belong in the ‘hypocrites sitting on their arses‘ category? Are you happy in yourself?
Ah so no doubt you read a wet liberal rag for hand wringing apologists. The Guardian or the Mirror no doubt. Before you get on your moral high horse did you actually read my post. Try again. My wife is doing all that on a daily basis including going into classes for key worker kids and posting all sorts of stuff online for the kids at home not just spouting about it as some are.
The teachers at her place want to get back to work properly but the govt has scared everyone silly and the unions are playing politics. Please explain to me what safe really is? What do you think my wife does when a little kid falls over and hurts themselves?? Yes that's right she comforts them and looks after them. Sorry, did you think she maintained a 2m distance and threw a plaster at them. You sit on your arse until you feel safe again though.
Who the hell says "are you happy in yourself." How old are you? That's the sort of crap my daughter would say. But seeing as you ask, I am perfectly happy thanks as I'm quite capable of thinking for myself.
Think you'll find that the right wing aren't the apologist type but never mind.
So you have a dig at me for an uninformed presumption about you working but by the time you type that you have already accused me of wanting immigrant NHS workers to go home. Bit rich that dont you think? Slightly presumptuous even. You don't actually know my ethnicity or skin colour and you throw that accusation in the ring. Classy albeit highly predictable.
Of course the govt has scared everyone silly, that's the reason some will not go back to work. How on earth are we going to socially distance a class of 30 kids? Please tell me.
The figures do speak for themselves but only if you look behind the headline figure and apply some thought. Try it. It's not about saving lives, it's about not making the government look bad if the nhs collapsed and always has been. I've said that on here several times.
35000 and rising - slowly. Here is a fact for you, about 44000 people die every month in the UK as a matter of course. The virus needs to be treated with a degree of respect and there are families who really should be looking after themselves and I would make every concession for them. The problem is that when everyone is howling about being safe the ones who genuinely are at risk are lost in the noise which is wrong.
But the rest of us need to grow up, wash our hands, be sensible and get on with it.
goonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 6:23 pmThe immigration problem is not always about a particular race. Some people will generally just oppose it due to numbers and ‘Johnny Foreigner’ stealing all our jobs. And this is the hatred I spoke about fuelled by rags such as the Torygraph. Anyway, that’s another argument for another time. In the meantime, stay safe everyone and let’s hope the rush back to work and the demonising of teachers doesn’t come at a huge cost.
goonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 6:58 pmI wouldn’t label myself as either Leftie or Liberal. I make decisions based on independent thought at the time. And not sure why you keep bringing up the race card? I was addressing the issue regarding numbers, regardless of skin colour, religion, or whatever country they come from. The Torygraph will have you believe they are all dangerous and a threat to a ‘good old Britain’ of cucumber sandwiches, cricket on the green, and the Blitz spirit. Typified by Tories like Johnson, Rees Mogg and all the other public school inbreds. It is a shithouse of a newspaper, as, unfortunately so are so many these days, hence why I don’t buy them.
???Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 7:10 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 6:58 pmI wouldn’t label myself as either Leftie or Liberal. I make decisions based on independent thought at the time. And not sure why you keep bringing up the race card? I was addressing the issue regarding numbers, regardless of skin colour, religion, or whatever country they come from. The Torygraph will have you believe they are all dangerous and a threat to a ‘good old Britain’ of cucumber sandwiches, cricket on the green, and the Blitz spirit. Typified by Tories like Johnson, Rees Mogg and all the other public school inbreds. It is a shithouse of a newspaper, as, unfortunately so are so many these days, hence why I don’t buy them.
Racist.
goonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 7:13 pm???Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 7:10 pmgoonertux wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 6:58 pmI wouldn’t label myself as either Leftie or Liberal. I make decisions based on independent thought at the time. And not sure why you keep bringing up the race card? I was addressing the issue regarding numbers, regardless of skin colour, religion, or whatever country they come from. The Torygraph will have you believe they are all dangerous and a threat to a ‘good old Britain’ of cucumber sandwiches, cricket on the green, and the Blitz spirit. Typified by Tories like Johnson, Rees Mogg and all the other public school inbreds. It is a shithouse of a newspaper, as, unfortunately so are so many these days, hence why I don’t buy them.
Racist.