Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
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9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
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27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
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44%
 
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Clearly he must be sacked, and clearly he will be sacked at some point this season.

But when do we think it will be? It should obviously be today or tomorrow morning - what the fuck could possibly be gained by putting it off?

But I don’t think he will be. I think he will hang on for months.

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northbank123 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:11 pm
Clearly he must be sacked, and clearly he will be sacked at some point this season.

But when do we think it will be? It should obviously be today or tomorrow morning - what the fuck could possibly be gained by putting it off?

But I don’t think he will be. I think he will hang on for months.
A manager rarely goes so quickly unless someone else has been lined up e.g. Poch and Maureen. We were one of the last teams to do and threw poor Freddie to the wolves, asking him to do two jobs FFS.

What option has the club got now? If he gets fired tomorrow, who do they turn to? Mertesacker?

I only hope that discussions with Allegri have started in the background already.

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northbank123 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:11 pm
Clearly he must be sacked, and clearly he will be sacked at some point this season.

But when do we think it will be? It should obviously be today or tomorrow morning - what the fuck could possibly be gained by putting it off?

But I don’t think he will be. I think he will hang on for months.
If we lose on Wednesday (likely) then that’s 5 defeats at home in a row.
Surely for his own future as a manger he should walk at that point.

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Do it now so the next manager in has the time to get us up the table and we can shut down this relegation hysteria bollocks.

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Listening to this cock now - "you see how hard we work. We totally controlled the game. We just need to score a goal"

No, no, no. I didn't see Willian, Bellerin or Xhaka "work hard". I saw us 'contain' a really shit team without ever controlling the game. We need to score a goal - don't tell everyone Sherlock

Honestly - he is an embarrassment to himself and the club. Just put him out of his misery now.

Allegri this week please. Back him to get rid of who he wants in January, regardless of who it upsets and who the agents and 'friends' of the club are. Let him do what he likes for the rest of the year and pray to god he gets a proper Summer window to rid us of the biggest crock of shit ever accumulated in the history of the club

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"Totally controlled the game."

Jesus wept. :oops:

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Smudger has just pointed out that we should be playing our younger players and "that even if there might be some short term pain, at least we will be heading in the right direction"

Proper assessment there cos playing older c.unts that continue failing is doing no fcuking good - play the young lads and none of this bollox about being afraid to put them into a struggling team, cos right now there couldnt be any less pressure on them cos fans will be happy to see the other c.unts gone

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He is the protege ! No way he is being sacked!
This c u n t could take us down, make no mistake!
But steveo FFS ! That doesnt mean Emery wasnt shite :wink:

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augie wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:37 pm
Smudger has just pointed out that we should be playing our younger players and "that even if there might be some short term pain, at least we will be heading in the right direction"

Proper assessment there cos playing older c.unts that continue failing is doing no fcuking good - play the young lads and none of this bollox about being afraid to put them into a struggling team, cos right now there couldnt be any less pressure on them cos fans will be happy to see the other c.unts gone
The pressure to worry about is not the pressure from the fans - it's the pressure from the media and the young players themselves. You cannot horse in a load of young players. They will get beaten week in week out and their confidence and self belief will be destroyed and then what have we achieved?

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Smudge is a fucking idiot. He said Arteta was the right appointment and is still the right man for the job.

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Allegri to Dortmund rumours gathering pace :shock:

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goonersid wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:41 pm
He is the protege ! No way he is being sacked!
This c u n t could take us down, make no mistake!
But steveo FFS ! That doesnt mean Emery wasnt shite :wink:
Good ebening Sid !!

Don't worry mate, we won't be seeing Emery back. Josh Kroenke is already on the blower to Arsene as we speak !

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:41 pm
augie wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:37 pm
Smudger has just pointed out that we should be playing our younger players and "that even if there might be some short term pain, at least we will be heading in the right direction"

Proper assessment there cos playing older c.unts that continue failing is doing no fcuking good - play the young lads and none of this bollox about being afraid to put them into a struggling team, cos right now there couldnt be any less pressure on them cos fans will be happy to see the other c.unts gone
The pressure to worry about is not the pressure from the fans - it's the pressure from the media and the young players themselves. You cannot horse in a load of young players. They will get beaten week in week out and their confidence and self belief will be destroyed and then what have we achieved?
I don't think anyone is suggesting we play kids from 1 to 11. What they're suggesting is that when you play consistently badly week in, week out (sometimes over 100 times for the club), there is a point when kids need to be introduced. Look at the players who are probably still standing out in this team - Tierney, Gabriel and Saka (ages 23, 22 and 19 respectively). Do we honestly think that giving Balogun a few games instead of Lacazette or Smith Rowe for Willian would see us destroy their confidence?

I can't think of anything more soul destroying than wondering what else you have to do in a Europa League game, and how much more shit those ahead of you can be in the PL.....and still never get a minute's action!

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There is nothing that he could have said after that game which would have made me feel better.

But he has gone full Wenger. Claiming we were in complete control, should have had the game won by 60 mins, Xhaka’s red card was partly through passion and wanting to win the game so badly. For fucks sake.

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northbank123 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:01 pm
There is nothing that he could have said after that game which would have made me feel better.

But he has gone full Wenger. Claiming we were in complete control, should have had the game won by 60 mins, Xhaka’s red card was partly through passion and wanting to win the game so badly. For fucks sake.
Yes, the players were ‘too willing’. Full blown Wenger speak right there.

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