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SteveO 35 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:07 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:03 pm
According to @Ekremkonur, Mikel Arteta is dissatisfied with Willian's performance, & wants to sign Emi Buendia. Norwich demands a transfer fee of £15m for Buendia. Negotiations between the two teams will begin in a short time. #Arsenal https://t.co/QHS16Uc2J7
Please tell me that could be true - if he fucks off Willian and Ballerina I reckon he'll win over quite a few fans, as well as improving the team no end

He would definitely get a thumbs up from me- The Chav Pensioner and the Fashion designer are SHYTE.

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Depressing reading that Balogun is going to start talking with other clubs (if he hasn't already). Admittedly only seen glimpses of the kid but he looks so much better sorted to the PL than Nketiah in my view and perhaps could be the youth academy striker we've craved for years. If he leaves and goes on to be a success like Gnabry that will be unforgiveable in a season where we've scored so few goals

All very well watching young players leave and flourish when they were to trying to break into Wenger's early teams.....another thing altogether when we've got a squad full of shite we can't shift

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:22 pm
Depressing reading that Balogun is going to start talking with other clubs (if he hasn't already). Admittedly only seen glimpses of the kid but he looks so much better sorted to the PL than Nketiah in my view and perhaps could be the youth academy striker we've craved for years. If he leaves and goes on to be a success like Gnabry that will be unforgiveable in a season where we've scored so few goals

All very well watching young players leave and flourish when they were to trying to break into Wenger's early teams.....another thing altogether when we've got a squad full of shite we can't shift
At least give Balogun & Martinelli a couple games to see how they do together. You might be surprised.
like you I've only seen glimpses of him in the first team but what I've seen looked very promising. With the rubbish we've been fielding lately it'd be truly awful to see him flourish somewhere else.

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According to @MartinLipton, #Arsenal want £32m rated Sevilla midfielder Joan Jordan in January transfer as Mikel Arteta bids to rescue their season. https://t.co/sZbX2PCAA8


Sevilla have put a £55m buy-out clause on the all-action midfielder but the LaLiga side are ready to listen to offers of around £32m. And thats a price Arsenal will be willing to pay to fire up their floundering campaign & start giving Arteta & his side the 'identity' they crave.

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According to Sport, Mikel Arteta has asked Edu to sign Barcelona star Riqui Puig on loan. #Arsenal https://t.co/m8Qb3txw4Q

#Arsenal previously wanted to sign Houssem Aouar but now appear to have changed tact, with Puig seen as a ‘good alternative’ to the Lyon star. AC Milan are also interested. https://t.co/XdoZjspbaC

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Personally, the only position we need to sign a player for is goal keeper. Runnersson has got Karius written all over him.
We need to shift players out not bring anyone else in. The squad is too big. We have 6 players out of contract at the end of the season, they need to all go, plus two more in January. We'll be a lot better off with them gone, than with them hanging around stinking the place out and negatively influencing any new signings.
For me the most important signing will be getting Balogun to sign a new 5 year deal. He looks the business, more clinical than Eddie

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55476267

Please God, not another Chelsea reject...

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:22 pm
According to Sport, Mikel Arteta has asked Edu to sign Barcelona star Riqui Puig on loan. #Arsenal https://t.co/m8Qb3txw4Q

#Arsenal previously wanted to sign Houssem Aouar but now appear to have changed tact, with Puig seen as a ‘good alternative’ to the Lyon star. AC Milan are also interested. https://t.co/XdoZjspbaC


good alternative = cheap alternative

I mean who the fcuk is this guy ??? If young players (like smith-rowe) lose out on some game time as a result of signing a player like Aaour then you could make some defence of it, but if you bring in some unknown kid and put him ahead of existing young players at the club then I would not be happy at all, but even more so if the unknown kid was only coming on loan :evil: I get that there are times than signing players on loan might be necessary/beneficial for the club, but for the life of me I cannot understand the logic of signing a young player on loan unless there is an option to sign him permanently at end of loan - you can see an experienced player on loan and get an immediate benefit from signing him, but a young unproven player will take time to settle/adjust to new team/league, and most of that loan time will be lost in that "settling in" period, and if you are willing to show the level of patience needed for that, then why not show the same level of patience to your young homegrown players and see whether they will develop ?

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Nos89 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:49 pm
Personally, the only position we need to sign a player for is goal keeper. Runnersson has got Karius written all over him.
We need to shift players out not bring anyone else in. The squad is too big. We have 6 players out of contract at the end of the season, they need to all go, plus two more in January. We'll be a lot better off with them gone, than with them hanging around stinking the place out and negatively influencing any new signings.
For me the most important signing will be getting Balogun to sign a new 5 year deal. He looks the business, more clinical than Eddie



It seems that I am the only one who thinks that it is very unfair that our back up keeper is already being written off - he is a new signing trying to get adjusted to new team-mates, new club, and new country, and despite only playing 5 games in 4 months, he is expected to be sharp as a tack at all times :roll: Anyone that knows anything about football will acknowledge that goalkeeper and strikers are the two positions where players need a run of games to be match sharp, but our back up keeper hasnt had that so it is unfair to judge him so quick imo

Edit : Just had a quick scroll through the clubs official website and it appears that they have written him off too cos they dont have him listed anywhere in the appearance stats pages :oops:

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augie wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:48 pm
Nos89 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:49 pm
Personally, the only position we need to sign a player for is goal keeper. Runnersson has got Karius written all over him.
We need to shift players out not bring anyone else in. The squad is too big. We have 6 players out of contract at the end of the season, they need to all go, plus two more in January. We'll be a lot better off with them gone, than with them hanging around stinking the place out and negatively influencing any new signings.
For me the most important signing will be getting Balogun to sign a new 5 year deal. He looks the business, more clinical than Eddie



It seems that I am the only one who thinks that it is very unfair that our back up keeper is already being written off - he is a new signing trying to get adjusted to new team-mates, new club, and new country, and despite only playing 5 games in 4 months, he is expected to be sharp as a tack at all times :roll: Anyone that knows anything about football will acknowledge that goalkeeper and strikers are the two positions where players need a run of games to be match sharp, but our back up keeper hasnt had that so it is unfair to judge him so quick imo

Edit : Just had a quick scroll through the clubs official website and it appears that they have written him off too cos they dont have him listed anywhere in the appearance stats pages :oops:
Personally thought that "Mr nice guy" .....sychophant Linker was disgusting with his comments in the media on the young lad....

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augie wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:48 pm

It seems that I am the only one who thinks that it is very unfair that our back up keeper is already being written off - he is a new signing trying to get adjusted to new team-mates, new club, and new country, and despite only playing 5 games in 4 months, he is expected to be sharp as a tack at all times :roll: Anyone that knows anything about football will acknowledge that goalkeeper and strikers are the two positions where players need a run of games to be match sharp, but our back up keeper hasnt had that so it is unfair to judge him so quick imo
Are you playing devils advocate or is your defence of Runnarson based on his performances?

Literally everything about his game worries me. His positioning, his handling, shot stopping, crosses, distribution...

He’s 25, can’t get in the Finland team, had lost his place in the Dijon team and when asked about his best qualities, listed distribution but none of the more traditional goalkeeping skills.

I'm generally a positive supporter but I sensed something iffy from the first performance and every performance since has backed up that initial view that he’s miles away from being even half decent.

It strikes me as yet another murky signing that, along with Willian and Soares, weren’t done for entirely footballing reasons. Luiz and Mari too perhaps?

The Kia/Raul/Edu link stinks to high heaven for most of those deals where the player & agent have come out of this far better than Arsenal.

Runnarson looks increasingly like a signing by the goalkeeper coach because of a personal bond rather than having the required quality? If so, the coach should be sacked.

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g88ner wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:39 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:48 pm

It seems that I am the only one who thinks that it is very unfair that our back up keeper is already being written off - he is a new signing trying to get adjusted to new team-mates, new club, and new country, and despite only playing 5 games in 4 months, he is expected to be sharp as a tack at all times :roll: Anyone that knows anything about football will acknowledge that goalkeeper and strikers are the two positions where players need a run of games to be match sharp, but our back up keeper hasnt had that so it is unfair to judge him so quick imo
Are you playing devils advocate or is your defence of Runnarson based on his performances?

Literally everything about his game worries me. His positioning, his handling, shot stopping, crosses, distribution...

He’s 25, can’t get in the Finland team, had lost his place in the Dijon team and when asked about his best qualities, listed distribution but none of the more traditional goalkeeping skills.

I'm generally a positive supporter but I sensed something iffy from the first performance and every performance since has backed up that initial view that he’s miles away from being even half decent.

It strikes me as yet another murky signing that, along with Willian and Soares, weren’t done for entirely footballing reasons. Luiz and Mari too perhaps?

The Kia/Raul/Edu link stinks to high heaven for most of those deals where the player & agent have come out of this far better than Arsenal.

Runnarson looks increasingly like a signing by the goalkeeper coach because of a personal bond rather than having the required quality? If so, the coach should be sacked.
Should be an enquiry over the Pepe transfer, someones had a good bung somewhere

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augie wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:39 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:22 pm
According to Sport, Mikel Arteta has asked Edu to sign Barcelona star Riqui Puig on loan. #Arsenal https://t.co/m8Qb3txw4Q

#Arsenal previously wanted to sign Houssem Aouar but now appear to have changed tact, with Puig seen as a ‘good alternative’ to the Lyon star. AC Milan are also interested. https://t.co/XdoZjspbaC


good alternative = cheap alternative

I mean who the fcuk is this guy ??? If young players (like smith-rowe) lose out on some game time as a result of signing a player like Aaour then you could make some defence of it, but if you bring in some unknown kid and put him ahead of existing young players at the club then I would not be happy at all, but even more so if the unknown kid was only coming on loan :evil: I get that there are times than signing players on loan might be necessary/beneficial for the club, but for the life of me I cannot understand the logic of signing a young player on loan unless there is an option to sign him permanently at end of loan - you can see an experienced player on loan and get an immediate benefit from signing him, but a young unproven player will take time to settle/adjust to new team/league, and most of that loan time will be lost in that "settling in" period, and if you are willing to show the level of patience needed for that, then why not show the same level of patience to your young homegrown players and see whether they will develop ?
Loans generally speaking are a fucking disaster for us anyway - can't remember the last loan signing we made that set the pulce racing or made any sort of positive contribution for the club. Look at Ceballos FFS - absolute waste of space

The last few loans 'in' we have had have been Cedric, Mari, Ceballos, Denis Suarez, Viviano, Kallstrom

You have to go back to Benayoun and Henry about 8-9 years ago to find one that had any sort of impact

Thought we were supposed to be able to compete for the top players in the world these days - what a load of shit that turned out to be

I don't want any c.unt on loan thanks :banghead: :banghead:

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g88ner wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:39 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:48 pm

It seems that I am the only one who thinks that it is very unfair that our back up keeper is already being written off - he is a new signing trying to get adjusted to new team-mates, new club, and new country, and despite only playing 5 games in 4 months, he is expected to be sharp as a tack at all times :roll: Anyone that knows anything about football will acknowledge that goalkeeper and strikers are the two positions where players need a run of games to be match sharp, but our back up keeper hasnt had that so it is unfair to judge him so quick imo
Are you playing devils advocate or is your defence of Runnarson based on his performances?

Literally everything about his game worries me. His positioning, his handling, shot stopping, crosses, distribution...

He’s 25, can’t get in the Finland team, had lost his place in the Dijon team and when asked about his best qualities, listed distribution but none of the more traditional goalkeeping skills.

I'm generally a positive supporter but I sensed something iffy from the first performance and every performance since has backed up that initial view that he’s miles away from being even half decent.

It strikes me as yet another murky signing that, along with Willian and Soares, weren’t done for entirely footballing reasons. Luiz and Mari too perhaps?

The Kia/Raul/Edu link stinks to high heaven for most of those deals where the player & agent have come out of this far better than Arsenal.

Runnarson looks increasingly like a signing by the goalkeeper coach because of a personal bond rather than having the required quality? If so, the coach should be sacked.



I'll be honest and admit that I didnt see most of the citeeh cup game so have been spared looking at what I am told were shocking fcuk ups.

I'll also say that I didnt realise that he is 25 years old and that would concern me too.

My "defence" of the lad is based on the fact that he is only just in the door and needs to be given some time to settle in. He got blamed for the first goal in the city cup game, and imo the blame for that one should land squarely at the feet of experienced german international ( :roll: ) mustafi who just watched the ball go past him at the near post. I feel that he has largely been doing ok in the ropey league games and has never had a chance to play with our first choice back 4.

I suppose I also feel that the guy is on a hiding to nothing with the fans cos he is coming in to replace a back up keeper that the vast majority wanted to keep. Runarsson is now being compared with the martinez of 2020, and not with the martinez of the previous 10 years when he was mostly shit, and that isnt fair imo. The guy might well be another karius as nos89 suggests, and if so that is panic stations all around cos that isnt even conference level, but right now I would rather focus attention (and money) on improving the number 8 position (alongside partey) and the right full position before I look at the back up keepers spot

Like I said above though, much of my thinking was based around the guy being 22 or 23 years old, and even though 25 isnt old for a keeper, it is old enough to be better at the basics than he apparently displayed against citeeh

Btw, didnt the goalkeeping coach want us to sign brentford's keeper ? Dont think runarsson was his choice

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:06 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:39 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:22 pm
According to Sport, Mikel Arteta has asked Edu to sign Barcelona star Riqui Puig on loan. #Arsenal https://t.co/m8Qb3txw4Q

#Arsenal previously wanted to sign Houssem Aouar but now appear to have changed tact, with Puig seen as a ‘good alternative’ to the Lyon star. AC Milan are also interested. https://t.co/XdoZjspbaC


good alternative = cheap alternative

I mean who the fcuk is this guy ??? If young players (like smith-rowe) lose out on some game time as a result of signing a player like Aaour then you could make some defence of it, but if you bring in some unknown kid and put him ahead of existing young players at the club then I would not be happy at all, but even more so if the unknown kid was only coming on loan :evil: I get that there are times than signing players on loan might be necessary/beneficial for the club, but for the life of me I cannot understand the logic of signing a young player on loan unless there is an option to sign him permanently at end of loan - you can see an experienced player on loan and get an immediate benefit from signing him, but a young unproven player will take time to settle/adjust to new team/league, and most of that loan time will be lost in that "settling in" period, and if you are willing to show the level of patience needed for that, then why not show the same level of patience to your young homegrown players and see whether they will develop ?
Loans generally speaking are a fucking disaster for us anyway - can't remember the last loan signing we made that set the pulce racing or made any sort of positive contribution for the club. Look at Ceballos FFS - absolute waste of space

The last few loans 'in' we have had have been Cedric, Mari, Ceballos, Denis Suarez, Viviano, Kallstrom

You have to go back to Benayoun and Henry about 8-9 years ago to find one that had any sort of impact

Thought we were supposed to be able to compete for the top players in the world these days - what a load of shit that turned out to be

I don't want any c.unt on loan thanks :banghead: :banghead:



I cant remember the guy's name at the mo, but you left out the fat brazilian guy we signed on loan from real madrid back in the day - I think he was another player that the french cock signed but then decided to change his position because wenger's arrogance knew no bounds :roll:

Edit : just remembered the guy's name ..... baptista (think he was meant to be "the beast" :roll: )

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