Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[OneBardGooner]

One Vote and 1 week to cast it.

It's Stupid hair OUT from me

[OneBardGooner]

One Vote and 1 week to cast it.

It's Stupid hair OUT from me

[augie]

One thing I'd like to add....

Not so long ago we were all laughing at Man Utd with Ollie at the wheel but given time he seems to be getting some things right. We all wouldn't mind being a point or two behind them.

I'm not quite fully in the Arteta out camp just yet as it's not beyond the realms of possibility that something similar could happen with us.

There arent too many managers on the arteta "no way would I want them" level, but I have to say that solskjaer is one of them - the man is a woeful, woeful manager who finds himself in second place in the worst top division in english football history, so please dont take that as a vindication of ole's "talents". It is a testament of how shit a manager arteta is, that in the worst top division EVER, he has his team in 10th place Solskjaer is gonna use this "success" to boost his own credibility but make no mistake, next season teams like the victims etc will be back in the groove and ole and his team will be left a long way back

I'm not talking about Solskjaer's talent at all. The point I'm making is that things can always change for the better as they can always change for the worst. The current league is what it is mate. It may be of poor quality in your opinion but there's nothing anyone can do about that is there?

Referring to your post about Henry, yes you said in an ideal world you wouldn't take him but you also said that out of the two right now you would replace a failing Arteta with him. Henry's track record to date suggests that things could possibly be worse with him at the helm. He was on the way to relegating Monaco before he was sacked in a league that, one club aside, is just about Championship level.

The point I was making buddy, is that solskjaer has been EXTREMELY fortunate to be in a league where the standards are so shit that it makes his performance look decent. We cannot depend on the league to be as poor next season or the season after to allow arteta some sort of comeback like ole has had.

[DB10GOONER]

Henry?!

Augie you mad bald little culchie uncle botherer!

What the actual fuck bro?!

No. Just no. Martinez-Lite is utter gash as a manager. So is Henry - in fact probably worse. It's not even a discussion anyone should be having.

I SAID NO.

[SteveO 35]

What is going on with Max Allegri these days? Its getting on for 2 years since he last managed......he's had almost as much 'rest' as Martinelli !

53 years old, pretty much in his prime, four consecutive domestic doubles, 70% win rate. How on earth hasn't someone landed this fella?

[gooner265]

What is going on with Max Allegri these days? Its getting on for 2 years since he last managed......he's had almost as much 'rest' as Martinelli !

53 years old, pretty much in his prime, four consecutive domestic doubles, 70% win rate. How on earth hasn't someone landed this fella?

Has he managed outside Italy , Barca or Madrid may both be available this summer.

[A11M11]

Former Juventus boss Max Allegri 'was Paris Saint-Germain's No 1 target to replace Thomas Tuchel but Ligue 1 giants couldn't match Italian's hefty salary £11m-per-year demands' before going with Mauricio Pochettino.

And there you have it !

It doesn't matter to us what he's doing , On that salary he ain't coming here.

[augie]

Former Juventus boss Max Allegri 'was Paris Saint-Germain's No 1 target to replace Thomas Tuchel but Ligue 1 giants couldn't match Italian's hefty salary £11m-per-year demands' before going with Mauricio Pochettino.

And there you have it !

It doesn't matter to us what he's doing , On that salary he ain't coming here.

I'm not saying that he would come here anyway, but if a mega wealthy club like psg approach you, you would always ask for more money that you would expect elsewhere

[Clummo99]

Wasn't there talk that our people found him arrogant? That wage demand would back that up.

Maybe there's the reasons right there. I was shocked that Chelsea weren't strongly linked when Fat Frank left.

[augie]

Wasn't there talk that our people found him arrogant? That wage demand would back that up.

Maybe there's the reasons right there. I was shocked that Chelsea weren't strongly linked when Fat Frank left.

Arteta is arrogant too, but just a cheaper version of arrogant

[bergkamp10]

Which ever way we like it. Mr. Arteta will be with us next season. Purely because he is a cheap option. But my hope is that with another season he might of learnt from his mistakes and adapted the team to a more faster counter-attacking outfit. then the current slow-slow-slow pass dummies..

[augie]

Which ever way we like it. Mr. Arteta will be with us next season. Purely because he is a cheap option. But my hope is that with another season he might of learnt from his mistakes and adapted the team to a more faster counter-attacking outfit. then the current slow-slow-slow pass dummies..

Look through his career and tell me where he has ever been involved in a fast counter attacking team He played under le cock when they were a slow pass you to death team, he played for everton when they werent much of an attacking team, and of course he was water boy for the original tika taka possession football master

[goonersid]

No matter what the outcome of this game, the Auba "disciplinary" issue is of huge concern.
We obviously must wait for the details, however unless Auba has turned up drunk or has refused to play, I don't give one fuck !'
You don't drop your captain and arguably one of the best strikers in the lge, on the day of an NLD!
You sit down man to man and tell him to go out score a hat trick and see me in my office on Monday.
This otherwise will prove to be an act of immaturity beyond his novice years!!
Arrogance, with no foundation!
We started today like a steam train, but the third rate Lacazette and others couldnt capitalise, whilst "arguably one of the best strikers in the game" was on the bench .
Potentially because his manager spit his dummy, lets wait and see

[SteveO 35]

No matter what the outcome of this game, the Auba "disciplinary" issue is of huge concern.
We obviously must wait for the details, however unless Auba has turned up drunk or has refused to play, I don't give one fuck !'
You don't drop your captain and arguably one of the best strikers in the lge, on the day of an NLD!
You sit down man to man and tell him to go out score a hat trick and see me in my office on Monday.
This otherwise will prove to be an act of immaturity beyond his novice years!!
Arrogance, with no foundation!
We started today like a steam train, but the third rate Lacazette and others couldnt capitalise, whilst "arguably one of the best strikers in the game" was on the bench .
Potentially because his manager spit his dummy, lets wait and see

He's so far out of his depth its untrue

He just said "we should have seen out the game comfortably" and "we couldn't handle the tension". The commentator just pointed out the absolutely bleeding obvious saying we seemed to have a lot of joy down our left hand side......

YEAH UNTIL YOU BROUGHT ON THE FUCKING CHAV REJECT IS WHAT HE MEANS !

[northbank123]

This desperation to be seen as a disciplinarian looks ridiculous when we are still racking up red cards at a rate twice as fast any other club, and the same players keep making the same brainless mistakes every week.