As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Looks like the secret is out and Saka's quality has been realised by everyone. He has played himself into the first team and I think will get the nod ahead of Grealish and Foden. Saka is better than Grealish & always has been. Grealish is a mile of the England first team and City are muppets if they want to sell Sterling and replace him with Grealish.
So England are on the verge of winning a major international tournament, basically a 50-50 chance as there is nothing in it between this very good England side and this hot Italian side.
With that, I wonder if Gareth Southgate is a worthwhile consideration if Arteta doesn't do well. When was the last time an English manager took control of a top club? Gary Neville at Valencia, Lampard and Chelsea - but they crashed and burned and there is an argument to be made they should have never been given the job in the first place. There have been Scottish managers mainly Ferguson and Dalglish, and Rodgers managed Liverpool & did pretty good. Its bizarre how English managers are non existent among top clubs considering Italian, German, French and Spanish managers manage top clubs all around the world. Harry Redknapp managing Tottenham is probably the highest worthwhile appointment for an Englishman in at least 20 years in the premier league.
'Arsenal manager Gareth Southgate'..........I could actually live with that.
You are outdoing yourself today mate!
Borat as Arsenal manager based on what? Getting to a final in a weak Euros with a lucky run of fixtures? We'll just ignore his actual record as a club manager huh?
The media has gone into overdrive with every inclusive , minority , race group climbing on the bandwagon saying how good it is for racial equality , how it's bringing things to peoples awareness of other peoples problems etc .
It's a bloody football tournament , We got a win through a spawny penalty decision and lucky strike . No-one is mentioning that because none of these people understand football in the first place.
Very true. The bandwagon jumpers piss me off. If England lose the final they'll jump on the new media bandwagon that the game in England is broken and full of white racists.
I hate the divers in the game. A part of me never forgave Pires for the Pompey dive tbh (and I fucking love Pires) but the slaughtering he got and still gets was way over the top. That one dive was the only dive he took and yet he is known in the PL as a Diver.
It always pissed me off that at the same time Slippy Me and Granny Botherer were diving week in week out and that was being totally ignored by the media.
In one sense I can understand why the likes of Fat Tongue, Scuba and the Girlfriend Basher dive. The Italians, Argentinians and Spanish (amongst others) have gotten away with it for decades. But what for me always separated the English game from the rest was the inherent honesty on the pitch. Diving was frowned upon. Remember Nutty reading the riot act on the pitch to Suker for diving?
As I say in one way I can understand it but I can never condone it. It is killing the game as a spectacle. Its embarrassing to see these strong fit grown ass men go over like children.
Football used to be a man's game ffs. Its now becoming almost unwatchable.
Making it worse is the complete abortion VAR that was brought in to stop this shit and yet week after week game after game fails to make the right decision.
I wouldnt say footballers are strong fit men. Rugby players tend to weigh between 90-100kg on average. Some can weight 120 kg and a 'small' player tops the scales at around 80kg. Saka is 65kg, Grealish 68kg, Foden 70kg. Some Rugby players can 100m 11 seconds even at 100KG.
If there is one thing footballers are not, its athletes. When you compare their physique to boxers or rugby players, there is a massive difference. I reckon Anthony Joshua's body mass is double Saka.
Mate you are pretty clueless on most things you post on here (remember Clinton?? ) but you've outdone yourself there!!
Footballers run far further, faster and more often on a pitch than Rugby players whose game is slow tedious and stop / start. I've played in matches where local rugby players thought they'd turn up and "show the soccer boys a thing or two" and we left them for dead pace-wise, fitness-wise and physically too. They might love a good old wrestle but you hit them with a sliding tackle at a hundred miles an hour and they fold.
Boxers??!! You put any boxer on a football pitch and ask him to do the amount of running Saka does and you'll see a dead boxer in about 30 minutes. They have totally different stamina thresholds and fitness types ffs.
Jesus I've read some horseshit on here over the years but you should get an award for that post!
I can comment on the rugby, never played it.
But even a half decent fit boxer will last a footballers running on a pitch, Skillz and tekkers aside obviously the footballers winning that department all day and has to definitely be more agile on a pitch for twists and turn etc. But what...12k average over 90 minutes in short periods of bursts and rests....any boxer would lap it up, part of a boxers regular training.
Sterling on ITV when asked about the penalty:
“He stuck his leg out and I…….he clipped my leg!” So he was about to say “I went down”.
Cheating is never right and it makes it a hollow victory. If it was the other way round, can you imagine the replays and outrage.
Hahaha hollow victory, yeah right
I don’t like diving either but fuck it, we’re in our first final in 55 years. The in’s and out’s of how we got there over the last 2 years of qualification are now totally irrelevant. All eyes now on Sunday!
So you say you don’t like diving either, but fuck it if it’s in our favour? It’s either acceptable either way and you take it or plain cheating and totally wrong. You can’t have it both ways. Rooney in the 49th game? Did you say ‘fuck it’ and just accept it back then? I doubt it. And the Italians were rightly crucified for their antics in the last 10 minutes against Belgium but England (Kane, Grealish, Sterling etc) were ‘clever’? Absolute double standards.
Spot on.You cant have a go at divers then when it goes your way turn around and say who cares get on with it
Last night Sterling Kane and Grealish seemed to be in a competition to see who could do the most dives.But because they had an England shirt on the media turned a blind eye to it..There's talk of the FA putting a swimming pool on the pitch for the final
Sterling on ITV when asked about the penalty:
“He stuck his leg out and I…….he clipped my leg!” So he was about to say “I went down”.
Cheating is never right and it makes it a hollow victory. If it was the other way round, can you imagine the replays and outrage.
Hahaha hollow victory, yeah right
I don’t like diving either but fuck it, we’re in our first final in 55 years. The in’s and out’s of how we got there over the last 2 years of qualification are now totally irrelevant. All eyes now on Sunday!
So you say you don’t like diving either, but fuck it if it’s in our favour? It’s either acceptable either way and you take it or plain cheating and totally wrong. You can’t have it both ways. Rooney in the 49th game? Did you say ‘fuck it’ and just accept it back then? I doubt it. And the Italians were rightly crucified for their antics in the last 10 minutes against Belgium but England (Kane, Grealish, Sterling etc) were ‘clever’? Absolute double standards.
Spot on.You cant have a go at divers then when it goes your way turn around and say who cares get on with it
Last night Sterling Kane and Grealish seemed to be in a competition to see who could do the most dives.But because they had an England shirt on the media turned a blind eye to it..There's talk of the FA putting a swimming pool on the pitch for the final
Old Ernie’s back again.
Give your mate Bert a call. You can bore him to tears with your shite.
I hate the divers in the game. A part of me never forgave Pires for the Pompey dive tbh (and I fucking love Pires) but the slaughtering he got and still gets was way over the top. That one dive was the only dive he took and yet he is known in the PL as a Diver.
It always pissed me off that at the same time Slippy Me and Granny Botherer were diving week in week out and that was being totally ignored by the media.
In one sense I can understand why the likes of Fat Tongue, Scuba and the Girlfriend Basher dive. The Italians, Argentinians and Spanish (amongst others) have gotten away with it for decades. But what for me always separated the English game from the rest was the inherent honesty on the pitch. Diving was frowned upon. Remember Nutty reading the riot act on the pitch to Suker for diving?
As I say in one way I can understand it but I can never condone it. It is killing the game as a spectacle. Its embarrassing to see these strong fit grown ass men go over like children.
Football used to be a man's game ffs. Its now becoming almost unwatchable.
Making it worse is the complete abortion VAR that was brought in to stop this shit and yet week after week game after game fails to make the right decision.
I wouldnt say footballers are strong fit men. Rugby players tend to weigh between 90-100kg on average. Some can weight 120 kg and a 'small' player tops the scales at around 80kg. Saka is 65kg, Grealish 68kg, Foden 70kg. Some Rugby players can 100m 11 seconds even at 100KG.
If there is one thing footballers are not, its athletes. When you compare their physique to boxers or rugby players, there is a massive difference. I reckon Anthony Joshua's body mass is double Saka.
Mate you are pretty clueless on most things you post on here (remember Clinton?? ) but you've outdone yourself there!!
Footballers run far further, faster and more often on a pitch than Rugby players whose game is slow tedious and stop / start. I've played in matches where local rugby players thought they'd turn up and "show the soccer boys a thing or two" and we left them for dead pace-wise, fitness-wise and physically too. They might love a good old wrestle but you hit them with a sliding tackle at a hundred miles an hour and they fold.
Boxers??!! You put any boxer on a football pitch and ask him to do the amount of running Saka does and you'll see a dead boxer in about 30 minutes. They have totally different stamina thresholds and fitness types ffs.
Jesus I've read some horseshit on here over the years but you should get an award for that post!
I can comment on the rugby, never played it.
But even a half decent fit boxer will last a footballers running on a pitch, Skillz and tekkers aside obviously the footballers winning that department all day and has to definitely be more agile on a pitch for twists and turn etc. But what...12k average over 90 minutes in short periods of bursts and rests....any boxer would lap it up, part of a boxers regular training.
Not that simple. You have to add in how psychologically tiring football is precisely because of the agility requirement, the constant change of pace and direction, the constant thinking about the next ball, the pressures of team sport over 90 minutes, the tekkers, etc - and then look at boxer classes and the fatigue and wear muscle mass and weight place on the legs, knees and ankles. No heavyweight boxer is gonna do 90 minutes at full pelt on a football pitch more than once, never mind every three days. Not a chance. A middleweight might.
Sterling on ITV when asked about the penalty:
“He stuck his leg out and I…….he clipped my leg!” So he was about to say “I went down”.
Cheating is never right and it makes it a hollow victory. If it was the other way round, can you imagine the replays and outrage.
Hahaha hollow victory, yeah right
I don’t like diving either but fuck it, we’re in our first final in 55 years. The in’s and out’s of how we got there over the last 2 years of qualification are now totally irrelevant. All eyes now on Sunday!
So you say you don’t like diving either, but fuck it if it’s in our favour? It’s either acceptable either way and you take it or plain cheating and totally wrong. You can’t have it both ways. Rooney in the 49th game? Did you say ‘fuck it’ and just accept it back then? I doubt it. And the Italians were rightly crucified for their antics in the last 10 minutes against Belgium but England (Kane, Grealish, Sterling etc) were ‘clever’? Absolute double standards.
Oh come on mate, what would your reaction be if Arsenal won the champions league via a sterling type dive against Barca? Personally I’d be celebrating but if you’d be the only gooner sat stoned faced in the corner deriding us all for celebrating a “hollow” victory then that’s weird, but totally up to you
but if you’d be the only gooner sat stoned faced in the corner deriding us all for celebrating a “hollow” victory then that’s weird, but totally up to you 
