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Yes Odergaard on his way by the look of it.......think arteta likes him because hes a quiet lad and gives no trouble

Not the player we need at worst hes ineffectual....drifting through games..a player we just dont need at present

If we had kept Martinez we wouldnt have needed Ramsdale....

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Redarmy wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:06 am
Yes Odergaard on his way by the look of it.......think arteta likes him because hes a quiet lad and gives no trouble

Not the player we need at worst hes ineffectual....drifting through games..a player we just dont need at present

If we had kept Martinez we wouldnt have needed Ramsdale....
Agreed on Ohdeargod. Not a bad player, just very average with little impact on games. He'll have a couple of great games in a season and a 10 minute spell of quality in almost every game he plays but ultimately he's not good enough and has zero consistency. We don't need him and its another big salary that could be directed to some of the areas we need to improve.

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What a great window it has been so far - lets just assess the issues from last year.......

Decent back up keeper - not done, but about to spunk £24m on the Relegation King
No proper right back - not done, or any sign of being done
Constant rotating centre halves and mostly bang average - remains to be seen, but I'd say not done
Left back cover - Tavares looks the one bright spot of the window, but lard arse Kolasinac still here remarkably
Proper dynamic CDM - Xhakaturd now obviously his captain and main man, so back to him and Elneny & Paper Ankles Partey. Lokonga might be ok one day
Another number 10 - about to sign the paperweight Madrid reject who had one good game last year in the PL
No idea what the striking formation looks like - even worse now than last season as it looks like Balogun has gone from nowhere to the only option!

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Again I disagree, think the viking has a lot of potential and when Arteta goes a better coachay bring him on more. I liked the potential of him and ESR linking together last year.
At least we have younger players who can develop coming in for a new coach.

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gooner265 wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:34 am
Again I disagree, think the viking has a lot of potential and when Arteta goes a better coachay bring him on more. I liked the potential of him and ESR linking together last year.
At least we have younger players who can develop coming in for a new coach.



It is generally accepted by most fans (and pundits) that smith-rowe is nearly always one of our better players when he plays in the 10, and you think that signing odegaard (who has never hit those heights) and shunting smith-rowe out to the wing is a good thing ??? I seriously wonder what we are looking at sometimes - is signing a guy who cant even get a squad number in a massively declining real madrid squad seen as better than playing an academy prospect purely cos the player has come from a top tier club ?? If it is accepted that he didnt play as well as smith-rowe did in the second part of last season, then what argument can anyone make for moving smith-rowe out of the 10 ? :?

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augie wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:59 am
gooner265 wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:34 am
Again I disagree, think the viking has a lot of potential and when Arteta goes a better coachay bring him on more. I liked the potential of him and ESR linking together last year.
At least we have younger players who can develop coming in for a new coach.



It is generally accepted by most fans (and pundits) that smith-rowe is nearly always one of our better players when he plays in the 10, and you think that signing odegaard (who has never hit those heights) and shunting smith-rowe out to the wing is a good thing ??? I seriously wonder what we are looking at sometimes - is signing a guy who cant even get a squad number in a massively declining real madrid squad seen as better than playing an academy prospect purely cos the player has come from a top tier club ?? If it is accepted that he didnt play as well as smith-rowe did in the second part of last season, then what argument can anyone make for moving smith-rowe out of the 10 ? :?
Got to stick with ESR hes the one ray of light we have at present....to me looks like hes geting better

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augie wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:59 am

It is generally accepted by most fans (and pundits) that smith-rowe is nearly always one of our better players when he plays in the 10, and you think that signing odegaard (who has never hit those heights) and shunting smith-rowe out to the wing is a good thing ??? I seriously wonder what we are looking at sometimes - is signing a guy who cant even get a squad number in a massively declining real madrid squad seen as better than playing an academy prospect purely cos the player has come from a top tier club ?? If it is accepted that he didnt play as well as smith-rowe did in the second part of last season, then what argument can anyone make for moving smith-rowe out of the 10 ? :?
To be fair - Ancelotti will likely play a formation which doesn't suit a number 10, so there isn't really a place for him there as he isn't quick enough to be a winger.

I would have been happier if this was a loan with an option to buy. He did ok here, but is that good enough?

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Nos89 wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:51 am
Clummo99 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:48 am
Nos89 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:21 am
Why are people on here so objectionable to players we may sign who are better than we currently have?
Countinho, Abraham, Ramsdale.
I'd settle for Jack Wilshere.
It's questionable that Ramsdale is any better than Leno for a start but also he and Abraham are certainly not worth the fees being reported.
Wasn't looking at better than Leno, just looking at a better back up keeper than Runnarsson.
If they want better than Runnarsson they could sign me for nothing. I played in goal for my primary school team. :lol:

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Odegaard for 30-35 million will be a decent signing imo. He was pretty decent for us till he got injured on international duty. 2 goals and 2 assists from 20 odd games doesn't sound much for a number 10 but he was involved in a number of other goals providing the pass before the assist. He is also only 23 so he has not reached his peak yet.

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Gunnerz4life wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:01 am
Odegaard for 30-35 million will be a decent signing imo. He was pretty decent for us till he got injured on international duty. 2 goals and 2 assists from 20 odd games doesn't sound much for a number 10 but he was involved in a number of other goals providing the pass before the assist. He is also only 23 so he has not reached his peak yet.


£30m-£35m for a DECENT PLAYER sounds good to you ??? We have enough "decent players" as it is without pissing away more of our meagre transfer kitty on average players. We have already spunked away £50m on a defender who can pass the ball but not defend, are on the verge of signing a below average keeper for ridiculous money, and now we are on the verge of pishing away the last of the cash on a plain decent (but no better than that)midfielder :roll: :roll: :roll:

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I like Odegaard and pretty chuffed we’ve signed him. £30-35m seems a decent price too :oops: :lol:

I do think it’ll shift ESR to the left (which is a worry) but I think he’s okay there. He naturally drifts wide anyway and has a good relationship with Tierney overlapping.

Desperately need a number 9 though.

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augie wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:24 am
Gunnerz4life wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:01 am
Odegaard for 30-35 million will be a decent signing imo. He was pretty decent for us till he got injured on international duty. 2 goals and 2 assists from 20 odd games doesn't sound much for a number 10 but he was involved in a number of other goals providing the pass before the assist. He is also only 23 so he has not reached his peak yet.
£30m-£35m for a DECENT PLAYER sounds good to you ??? We have enough "decent players" as it is without pissing away more of our meagre transfer kitty on average players. We have already spunked away £50m on a defender who can pass the ball but not defend, are on the verge of signing a below average keeper for ridiculous money, and now we are on the verge of pishing away the last of the cash on a plain decent (but no better than that)midfielder :roll: :roll: :roll:
We need to get used to the fact that world class proven talent in their prime may not be dying to join us given the utter shambles that we are right now. Every signing is not a guaranteed success but a strategy (if there is one) of buying young, talented players who can improve is something I can get behind.

No doubt we overpaid for White and it is difficult to justify splurging such an amount on a position which most would agree wasn't a priority specially now that it seems that we will not be signing a RB or a proven CDM. But that and one bad performance doesn't make White a bad player. It is absurd to suggest that he can't defend based on one bad performance.

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augie wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:59 am
gooner265 wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:34 am
Again I disagree, think the viking has a lot of potential and when Arteta goes a better coachay bring him on more. I liked the potential of him and ESR linking together last year.
At least we have younger players who can develop coming in for a new coach.



It is generally accepted by most fans (and pundits) that smith-rowe is nearly always one of our better players when he plays in the 10, and you think that signing odegaard (who has never hit those heights) and shunting smith-rowe out to the wing is a good thing ??? I seriously wonder what we are looking at sometimes - is signing a guy who cant even get a squad number in a massively declining real madrid squad seen as better than playing an academy prospect purely cos the player has come from a top tier club ?? If it is accepted that he didnt play as well as smith-rowe did in the second part of last season, then what argument can anyone make for moving smith-rowe out of the 10 ? :?
As I said I saw signs of them linking up well together , I don't want ESR dropped as he's my favourite player, but we clearly need note creativity in the side he can't do it on his own. Football isn't static these days and both players can float behind the striker creating space and chances.
ESR does like to drift wide as well at times.

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The difference between the two for me is that ESR always shines - even when we lost to Brentford, him and Tierney were still going strong. In games when we were losing last year, with the notable exception of West Ham away, Odegaard was like a Norweigan Ozil

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:37 am
The difference between the two for me is that ESR always shines - even when we lost to Brentford, him and Tierney were still going strong. In games when we were losing last year, with the notable exception of West Ham away, Odegaard was like a Norweigan Ozil



Absolutely - there is no comparison and yet people seem to be hailing the imminent arrival of odegaard and not recognise the domino effect it will have on smith-rowe and where he will play. If we sign a maddison to play in the 10 ahead of smith-rowe then that might be understandable, but to sign an inferior player and shaft smith-rowe should be unacceptable to everyone imo

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