g88ner wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:52 am
He’s not my cup of tea but I think we’ll miss Xhaka. As annoying as he is (and he REALLY is

) he’s currently a key player in how we progress the ball. Elneny can’t do it, AMN hasn’t shown that he can do it and Lokonga is still an unknown. I think it’s a blow
This I don't understand. You are an intelligent bloke. But you have fallen for the Myth of Clive. To my mind anyway!
He's a bullshitter on the pitch. He points a lot so it looks like he is directing things. There's a video of him on yootoobs (I think) where you can hear his onfield "genius". It's basically him pointing and saying things like "over there", "Kieren, yes", "okay okay", "hey, OK ok", "no no, OK yes". Complete fucking nonsense!
I also absolutely don't agree he is a key player in how we progress the ball, mate. The ball tends to be lost at his feet too often, either through him taking too many touches or just pissing it away to the oppo with a poor pass. We progress the ball better down the wings and by bypassing him. I've seen Tierney in particular bypass Clive and pass to other players further away as well as having a go at him on the pitch a good few times. Tierney is no fool. I think he sees Clive for the bullshitter he is.
And then add in Clive's cataclysmic onfield stupidity. Jumping in with both feet in innocuous non dangerous situations and giving away stupid free kicks and pennos. Isn't there some PL record he set for the most goals conceded directly from his mistakes or something?
We look better, more attacking and less panicky in midfield without Clive.
And then finally let's never forget he is a cùnt that dissed our fans.
