As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
I'd like Saliba to get a chance but bear In mind he is currently playing in League Un, a league which plenty off us have slated for competitivity in the past. There is no guarantee he will perform as well in the PL.
I am worried that Edu and Arteta are obsessed with building a young team, immaterial of how good youngsters are they still need good senior players around them to provide the benefit of their experience.
If Laca does go in the summer and no senior players are brought in it leaves the ever present fuckwit as the 'experienced' regular starter...... Now that is a truly frightening prospect
The bit in red is key for me. 40+ years watching football and playing football has taught me some very basic truths about the game and one of the most true of truths at all levels is experience is always needed in a team, because experience teaches you street smarts, savvy, guile, whatever you want to call it. Youth is great in a side but without a good solid core of experienced players that youth will flounder every time.
I really really hope Martinez-Lite is not thinking of having 8 or 9 kids looking to the walking fucktard Clive as the "experience" in the team. If that's the case we are biblically fucked.
I'd like Saliba to get a chance but bear In mind he is currently playing in League Un, a league which plenty off us have slated for competitivity in the past.
Given that city are about to win their 4th title in five years, is the premier league really that competitive?
Laca should of scored a couple more this season as should of PEA and Nketiah but simply put we don't create a lot of clear cut chances anymore and we have missed some sitters but the oppostion keeper is very rarely worked hard.
No goals from central midfield so the pressure on the 10 or widemen to score ESR, Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard.
We create so little that every game we play the first goal is pivotal the opponents score first we never win under El Beige a shocking stat.
Very succinctly put, my friend - we don’t create many chances due to the obsession with retaining the ball, all th e way back to defence to start all over again - basically the more passes the more chance that one will be under hit or over hit, or intercepted or go out of play, etc, etc
When we get our chances we need to be clinical…..but we rarely are.
While everyone continues to argue how weak we are without players that were deemed never too good to play for the club, why are we literally giving players away, and why are they taking huge cuts in pay to ensure they get away?
Players labelled as mercenaries are getting paid pennies compared to what they were earning at the club
Please liist these pay cuts, the only one I heard is auba taking a pay cut but we had to give him 7 million to rip up his contract
Saliba is going to end up somewhere like PSG and end up one of the top talents in Europe.
We will continue to loan him out and get zero for him because the Spanish Gordan Brittas didn't sign him. Afterwards it will come out that El Brittas had a problem with him from day one
Mikel Arteta - the man who had Saliba, Guendouzi, Torreira, Aubameyang and Lacazette and managed to let them all leave for the grand return of zero pounds
The disastrous project with this upstart just taking its predictable path
I'd like Saliba to get a chance but bear In mind he is currently playing in League Un, a league which plenty off us have slated for competitivity in the past.
Given that city are about to win their 4th title in five years, is the premier league really that competitive?
At the top currently not particularly but at the middle anywhere from 4th to 12th could probably go into league Un and be challenging for top 3 no problem. French football is terrible to watch at times, I occasionally watch it on BT as a sort of masochism
While everyone continues to argue how weak we are without players that were deemed never too good to play for the club, why are we literally giving players away, and why are they taking huge cuts in pay to ensure they get away?
Players labelled as mercenaries are getting paid pennies compared to what they were earning at the club
Please liist these pay cuts, the only one I heard is auba taking a pay cut but we had to give him 7 million to rip up his contract
Aubameyang, Ozil, Willian are the three high profile player's, sure Mykhetarian, Mustafi (remember him) also did the same. These players had to leave the club because of the negative influence they were having, from reports I read. It's not through sympathy for the players, it's a concern that we have substantial been overpaying players with little return, but also, the atmosphere around for them wanting to leave so desperately.
While everyone continues to argue how weak we are without players that were deemed never too good to play for the club, why are we literally giving players away, and why are they taking huge cuts in pay to ensure they get away?
Players labelled as mercenaries are getting paid pennies compared to what they were earning at the club
Please liist these pay cuts, the only one I heard is auba taking a pay cut but we had to give him 7 million to rip up his contract
In effect we have paid him up until the start of next season , 5 months wages
While everyone continues to argue how weak we are without players that were deemed never too good to play for the club, why are we literally giving players away, and why are they taking huge cuts in pay to ensure they get away?
Players labelled as mercenaries are getting paid pennies compared to what they were earning at the club
Please liist these pay cuts, the only one I heard is auba taking a pay cut but we had to give him 7 million to rip up his contract
Aubameyang, Ozil, Willian are the three high profile player's, sure Mykhetarian, Mustafi (remember him) also did the same. These players had to leave the club because of the negative influence they were having, from reports I read. It's not through sympathy for the players, it's a concern that we have substantial been overpaying players with little return, but also, the atmosphere around for them wanting to leave so desperately.
Every manager at every club in the country has to deal with players who aren't as important as they once were and who need managing. I'm sure even at Liverpool, Divock Origi, James Milner and Joe Gomez (amongst others) all feel they should be playing more. Ditto Man City with the likes of Sterling. You can't just go round falling out with all of them, banishing them to the stiffs and spending millions paying off their contracts. El Brittas seems to have done very little 'managing' of these issues and instead just pays people off. Another sign of his inexperience and if we ever get back to European football he better get used to needing to manage a bigger squad with lots of personalities
While everyone continues to argue how weak we are without players that were deemed never too good to play for the club, why are we literally giving players away, and why are they taking huge cuts in pay to ensure they get away?
Players labelled as mercenaries are getting paid pennies compared to what they were earning at the club
Please liist these pay cuts, the only one I heard is auba taking a pay cut but we had to give him 7 million to rip up his contract
Aubameyang, Ozil, Willian are the three high profile player's, sure Mykhetarian, Mustafi (remember him) also did the same. These players had to leave the club because of the negative influence they were having, from reports I read. It's not through sympathy for the players, it's a concern that we have substantial been overpaying players with little return, but also, the atmosphere around for them wanting to leave so desperately.
Every manager at every club in the country has to deal with players who aren't as important as they once were and who need managing. I'm sure even at Liverpool, Divock Origi, James Milner and Joe Gomez (amongst others) all feel they should be playing more. Ditto Man City with the likes of Sterling. You can't just go round falling out with all of them, banishing them to the stiffs and spending millions paying off their contracts. El Brittas seems to have done very little 'managing' of these issues and instead just pays people off. Another sign of his inexperience and if we ever get back to European football he better get used to needing to manage a bigger squad with lots of personalities
There is a quote today from some former player who played for roy keane in the past - he said that if you stepped out of line "roy would fine you, punish you, suspend you, and then we would all move on from the incident". I'm not holding keane up as a model manager (he is an absolute *word censored*) but it does display the pragmatism needed in management - broken record I know, but banishing a player only works if the team doesnt suffer on the head of it, and while it was an offence worth punishment, it certainly wasnt one that needed removing him from the club
Not defending Arteta because from outside viewing in his Management leaves a lot to be desired but people seem, at least in the case of PEA, seem to be forgetting he has form for being extremely difficult to manage.
I also think that as with other players under other managers when players receive bumper deals they can turn very egotistical. I know we'll never know but it would be interesting to know what other players feel about the PEA situation and how much blame lies with each party.
Not defending Arteta because from outside viewing in his Management leaves a lot to be desired but people seem, at least in the case of PEA, seem to be forgetting he has form for being extremely difficult to manage.
I also think that as with other players under other managers when players receive bumper deals they can turn very egotistical. I know we'll never know but it would be interesting to know what other players feel about the PEA situation and how much blame lies with each party.
Players are notoriously self centred, so you would have the likes of laca defending auba whether he was 100% right or 100% wrong
Personally I havent forgotten the role I believe auba (and others) played in undermining emery and getting him the tin tack - as I said 100 times, my issue isnt us getting rid of auba, but getting rid of him at a time when we have no-one better and this will without doubt impact the team and results
