CoronaVirus / Adolf Putin / The Apocalypse etc

[OneBardGooner]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60697261

I didn't know clummo was Norwegian!!!

[OneBardGooner]

Putin does have nukes, but so do UK, France, USA, China and Israel. At least 3 other nations have illegal nuclear capabilities. Why are the other nations scared? If he uses them, it will be illegal use of the weapons. UN and NATO would then be engaged and Putin brought to trial. Russia would lose their right to hold nuclear weapons legally. It seems this is what they are waiting for.
If he uses them on the Ukraine it will impact nearby NATO nations and then NATO nations will be fully engaged in the conflict. Russia may be vast but it won't withstand an allied defence of Ukraine.
Putin is a narcissist, however, I don't think he'd use nuclear weapons because he'll be ruined, and he knows the consequences. I still think Russian's will turn on him because the sanctions will have an impact on the majority of it's society.
I would've thought Kiev would've been taken by now by the Russians, but it hasn't and that's due to the strength and bravery of the Ukrainians. I hope the Russian people mount a mini coup d'etat and overthrow the incumbent president. As, there is no legitimate or obvious benefit to the Russian people.

I'm sorry no offense mate but that is incredibly naive. If it goes to nukes (it won't) but if it did then the legality of their use won't matter for jack shit. If it goes to nukes it's game over. But it won't, too many happy comfortable rich people surround Shitler and they have too much to lose.

The Russian people won't rebel against him I numbers. They are mostly a poverty stricken feckless people. It'll be a general, a few generals or a few generals and a couple of Oligarchs all with the backing of the CIA and MI6 and a promise of a huge economic aid package and some back door investments for the Oligarchs.

Yeah! Putin "Knows" (1,000%) that Nato or other Allied forces / Powers won't put 'Boots on the ground' in Ukraine because the crazy Stalin-fucker WOULD use Nuclear weapons and if that happened everyone; that's every living breathing water drinking, sunlight dependent being and species oaths beautiful planet WOULD DIE.

There are bunkers for the politicians in all countries 8 - 10 miles deep, but at some point they would have to surface and considering the smallest Nuke in the armouries of the Nuke Powers is 60 times more powerful than the one used on Hiroshima and they have hundreds of the fuckers - the world would literally melt. Though no doubt that cun/t Clive would survive

M.A.D Mutually Assured Destruction is the only thing keeping one of the despotic evil fuckers from being first to press the button, BUT Putin is capable of doing such a thing - as was Bush and Trump.(All fucking Idiots).

[StuartL]

Putin does have nukes, but so do UK, France, USA, China and Israel. At least 3 other nations have illegal nuclear capabilities. Why are the other nations scared? If he uses them, it will be illegal use of the weapons. UN and NATO would then be engaged and Putin brought to trial. Russia would lose their right to hold nuclear weapons legally. It seems this is what they are waiting for.
If he uses them on the Ukraine it will impact nearby NATO nations and then NATO nations will be fully engaged in the conflict. Russia may be vast but it won't withstand an allied defence of Ukraine.
Putin is a narcissist, however, I don't think he'd use nuclear weapons because he'll be ruined, and he knows the consequences. I still think Russian's will turn on him because the sanctions will have an impact on the majority of it's society.
I would've thought Kiev would've been taken by now by the Russians, but it hasn't and that's due to the strength and bravery of the Ukrainians. I hope the Russian people mount a mini coup d'etat and overthrow the incumbent president. As, there is no legitimate or obvious benefit to the Russian people.

I'm sorry no offense mate but that is incredibly naive. If it goes to nukes (it won't) but if it did then the legality of their use won't matter for jack shit. If it goes to nukes it's game over. But it won't, too many happy comfortable rich people surround Shitler and they have too much to lose.

The Russian people won't rebel against him I numbers. They are mostly a poverty stricken feckless people. It'll be a general, a few generals or a few generals and a couple of Oligarchs all with the backing of the CIA and MI6 and a promise of a huge economic aid package and some back door investments for the Oligarchs.

Yeah! Putin "Knows" (1,000%) that Nato or other Allied forces / Powers won't put 'Boots on the ground' in Ukraine because the crazy Stalin-fucker WOULD use Nuclear weapons and if that happened everyone; that's every living breathing water drinking, sunlight dependent being and species oaths beautiful planet WOULD DIE.

There are bunkers for the politicians in all countries 8 - 10 miles deep, but at some point they would have to surface and considering the smallest Nuke in the armouries of the Nuke Powers is 60 times more powerful than the one used on Hiroshima and they have hundreds of the fuckers - the world would literally melt. Though no doubt that cun/t Clive would survive

M.A.D Mutually Assured Destruction is the only thing keeping one of the despotic evil fuckers from being first to press the button, BUT Putin is capable of doing such a thing - as was Bush and Trump.(All fucking Idiots).

To be fair, the planet would breathe a sigh of relief if it’s human flea’s were wiped out of existence- press the reset button and the kingdom of the cockroach begins…..

No point in the “ top tier” surviving anyway, who would cook their meals, do their laundry and take out the rubbish ?

It’s no fun being king of the castle, if you have no peasants to rule over

[OneBardGooner]

Putin does have nukes, but so do UK, France, USA, China and Israel. At least 3 other nations have illegal nuclear capabilities. Why are the other nations scared? If he uses them, it will be illegal use of the weapons. UN and NATO would then be engaged and Putin brought to trial. Russia would lose their right to hold nuclear weapons legally. It seems this is what they are waiting for.
If he uses them on the Ukraine it will impact nearby NATO nations and then NATO nations will be fully engaged in the conflict. Russia may be vast but it won't withstand an allied defence of Ukraine.
Putin is a narcissist, however, I don't think he'd use nuclear weapons because he'll be ruined, and he knows the consequences. I still think Russian's will turn on him because the sanctions will have an impact on the majority of it's society.
I would've thought Kiev would've been taken by now by the Russians, but it hasn't and that's due to the strength and bravery of the Ukrainians. I hope the Russian people mount a mini coup d'etat and overthrow the incumbent president. As, there is no legitimate or obvious benefit to the Russian people.

I'm sorry no offense mate but that is incredibly naive. If it goes to nukes (it won't) but if it did then the legality of their use won't matter for jack shit. If it goes to nukes it's game over. But it won't, too many happy comfortable rich people surround Shitler and they have too much to lose.

The Russian people won't rebel against him I numbers. They are mostly a poverty stricken feckless people. It'll be a general, a few generals or a few generals and a couple of Oligarchs all with the backing of the CIA and MI6 and a promise of a huge economic aid package and some back door investments for the Oligarchs.

Yeah! Putin "Knows" (1,000%) that Nato or other Allied forces / Powers won't put 'Boots on the ground' in Ukraine because the crazy Stalin-fucker WOULD use Nuclear weapons and if that happened everyone; that's every living breathing water drinking, sunlight dependent being and species oaths beautiful planet WOULD DIE.

There are bunkers for the politicians in all countries 8 - 10 miles deep, but at some point they would have to surface and considering the smallest Nuke in the armouries of the Nuke Powers is 60 times more powerful than the one used on Hiroshima and they have hundreds of the fuckers - the world would literally melt. Though no doubt that cun/t Clive would survive

M.A.D Mutually Assured Destruction is the only thing keeping one of the despotic evil fuckers from being first to press the button, BUT Putin is capable of doing such a thing - as was Bush and Trump.(All fucking Idiots).

To be fair, the planet would breathe a sigh of relief if it’s human flea’s were wiped out of existence- press the reset button and the kingdom of the cockroach begins…..

No point in the “ top tier” surviving anyway, who would cook their meals, do their laundry and take out the rubbish ?

It’s no fun being king of the castle, if you have no peasants to rule over

Agree 100% with that mate.

[the playing mantis]

This is a really good and incisive view of the current invasion of Ukraine by Russia and (perhaps) why it has happened.

All based on Huge Financial Profit motives by the US and Other European powers: The IMF along with NED (National Endowment for America - run by the US Government) are up to their eyebrows in all this shyte - the NED is like a business version of the CIA; who finance American companies with Billions every year to set up in-roads in foreign companies as a means to destabilise those countries inner financial structures with a view to making those countries more American Business friendly and so allowing American companies to expand those investments and so increase their shares and hold on the finances of those countries: mining minerals, manufacturing of drugs and other available materials and resources and so making even more profit from Global investments.

Yes, Putin IS a Man Murdering Evil Scumbag, but the USA, Germany, France and the UK have all had a hand in this.. It's EVIL on a World-Wide scale... ALL About Money/Profit and so Power.

I know a lot of people think this guy is a wa-nk-er but what he has to say sheds a different light on how the Ukraine people have been used as a pawn in the War of Global economy between Russia nd the Western Powers..and now because of the War Mngering CUN.T Putin find them selves in a Real War... It fucking Stinks...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxMVcrvtqqs

Ukraine fired no missile or launched no invasion of russia - everything else is just distractive bu.llshit designed to deflect away from putin's murderous campaign As a world now we seem always desperate to pin every single war or conflict like this on the usa or one of the wealthy "western" countries - it is like an obsession ffs. Yes there are many good reasons why the yanks are not trusted and I get that, but this need to blame everything on them is ridiculous - if putin doesnt launch this war against ukraine then nothing about the yanks even matters, and lets be honest here and admit that nobody provoked the mad russian c.unt into taking this action

he was 'provoked', provoked is different when you a nutcase, but a number of things gave him an excuse in his crazy head. It doesnt justify it in any way, but its not pure russia unilateral action. To the crazy russian nato expansion up to their borders and cosying up to the EU is provocation as both are anti russian (thats the point of nato) the US lost their shit when cuba joined or whatever they did with the warsaw pact and had weapons on the US doorstep. Russia see this as the same. Doesn't make it right in any way, but geo politics are such that things have to be done delicately. Add in the wave of forced derussification by the ukrainian government, even in those who speak russian as first language, it was grist to Putins mill.

Doesnt justify in any way attacking them ffs but the Ukraininan powers that be have done a lot of stuff they knew would p Russia off deliberately.

[the playing mantis]

Putin does have nukes, but so do UK, France, USA, China and Israel. At least 3 other nations have illegal nuclear capabilities. Why are the other nations scared? If he uses them, it will be illegal use of the weapons. UN and NATO would then be engaged and Putin brought to trial. Russia would lose their right to hold nuclear weapons legally. It seems this is what they are waiting for.
If he uses them on the Ukraine it will impact nearby NATO nations and then NATO nations will be fully engaged in the conflict. Russia may be vast but it won't withstand an allied defence of Ukraine.
Putin is a narcissist, however, I don't think he'd use nuclear weapons because he'll be ruined, and he knows the consequences. I still think Russian's will turn on him because the sanctions will have an impact on the majority of it's society.
I would've thought Kiev would've been taken by now by the Russians, but it hasn't and that's due to the strength and bravery of the Ukrainians. I hope the Russian people mount a mini coup d'etat and overthrow the incumbent president. As, there is no legitimate or obvious benefit to the Russian people.

and some back door investments for the Oligarchs.

everyone loves a back door investment

[DB10GOONER]

Putin does have nukes, but so do UK, France, USA, China and Israel. At least 3 other nations have illegal nuclear capabilities. Why are the other nations scared? If he uses them, it will be illegal use of the weapons. UN and NATO would then be engaged and Putin brought to trial. Russia would lose their right to hold nuclear weapons legally. It seems this is what they are waiting for.
If he uses them on the Ukraine it will impact nearby NATO nations and then NATO nations will be fully engaged in the conflict. Russia may be vast but it won't withstand an allied defence of Ukraine.
Putin is a narcissist, however, I don't think he'd use nuclear weapons because he'll be ruined, and he knows the consequences. I still think Russian's will turn on him because the sanctions will have an impact on the majority of it's society.
I would've thought Kiev would've been taken by now by the Russians, but it hasn't and that's due to the strength and bravery of the Ukrainians. I hope the Russian people mount a mini coup d'etat and overthrow the incumbent president. As, there is no legitimate or obvious benefit to the Russian people.

and some back door investments for the Oligarchs.

everyone loves a back door investment

Ooohh matron!

[robbo10]

Putin does have nukes, but so do UK, France, USA, China and Israel. At least 3 other nations have illegal nuclear capabilities. Why are the other nations scared? If he uses them, it will be illegal use of the weapons. UN and NATO would then be engaged and Putin brought to trial. Russia would lose their right to hold nuclear weapons legally. It seems this is what they are waiting for.
If he uses them on the Ukraine it will impact nearby NATO nations and then NATO nations will be fully engaged in the conflict. Russia may be vast but it won't withstand an allied defence of Ukraine.
Putin is a narcissist, however, I don't think he'd use nuclear weapons because he'll be ruined, and he knows the consequences. I still think Russian's will turn on him because the sanctions will have an impact on the majority of it's society.
I would've thought Kiev would've been taken by now by the Russians, but it hasn't and that's due to the strength and bravery of the Ukrainians. I hope the Russian people mount a mini coup d'etat and overthrow the incumbent president. As, there is no legitimate or obvious benefit to the Russian people.

and some back door investments for the Oligarchs.

everyone loves a back door investment

Ooohh matron!

Gotta love OG to take a serious debate about possible global nuclear holocaust straight to the depths of the gutter

[OneBardGooner]

Don't worry Rain1 will be along shortly.

[Rian1]

Don't worry Rain1 will be along shortly.

Already on it, mate

[OneBardGooner]

No I said Rain1 not rian1.

His posts are better than yours.

[OneBardGooner]

Source BBC:

A second mayor is 'abducted' in three days.


The alleged abduction of the mayor of the southern city of Dniprorudne, Yevhen Matveyev, comes hours after Russian forces in another southern city, Melitopol, reportedly installed a new mayor after its first was also kidnapped.

The alleged abduction of Melitopol's mayor Ivan Fedorov on Friday prompted hundreds of protesters to take to the streets, shouting: "Free the mayor!"

Last night, Galina Danilchenko, a former city council member, was announced as the new mayor on local TV.

Danilchenko urged residents not to take part in what she called "extremist actions".

A curfew has been announced in the city and protests banned.

[GoonerMuzz]

So if a country that borders Russia wishes to join NATO they have to defer to Russia? I dont remember Belorus deferring to Poland/NATO when sitting itself firmly in Putin's back pocket. NATO never forces a country to join it, in fact a Sovereign nation has to actively seek membership and meet some very stringent geopolitical tests to even be considered.

I'd also point out in recent years our mate Putin has actively been involving his forces around the world in the same way NATO has but with considerably less criticism from the Western media and next to none from his own, he has also actively been involved in Western political interference since he came to power. People forget he put in place a puppet President once his own legal term was up, assumed the position of Prime Minister then he forced through a constitutional change to allow himself to become president again. He is a power hungry despot who has absolute control over the FSB and Paramilitary Police and that effectively gives him absolute power, when the iron curtain came down many Western intelligence agents tried to warn everyone that what appeared to be happening in the old Soviet Union may have been a false dawn and they were right, power vacuums always get filled eventually and usually not in the way you expect.

Anyone who has ever been to Russia knows it is a world apart and immaterial of what the Western media portrays of Moscow and St Peterburg those cities are the exception not the rule. There are I believe still in the region of 40 or more closed cities in Russia where foreigners are pretty much forbidden. Do not for a second think that the majority of Russians are pro-liberal anti Putin, many Russians are rabidly anti-western and blame the West for the fall of Communism and the 'defeat'of the Soviet Union, think of the Nazi's 'stab in the back' narrative during the Weimar years and you wont be far from the reality that has been portrayed in most parts of Russia for 30 years.

Personally I love the place and the people but they are fucking nuts and should be treated in much the way you treat a friendly pit bull.

[TeeCee]

Have to say that having bumped in to a few Russki's on holidays over the years, they are the most arrogant, Obnoxious, rude bastards I've ever met. Also interesting that talking to local cabbies when on holiday, they said they HATED the Russians with a passion, horrible people.

[the playing mantis]

So if a country that borders Russia wishes to join NATO they have to defer to Russia? I dont remember Belorus deferring to Poland/NATO when sitting itself firmly in Putin's back pocket. NATO never forces a country to join it, in fact a Sovereign nation has to actively seek membership and meet some very stringent geopolitical tests to even be considered.


Personally I love the place and the people but they are fucking nuts and should be treated in much the way you treat a friendly pit bull.

No you shouldn't but sadly we do given your last point...