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I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/

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begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:08 am
I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/
That's a shame. :(


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begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:08 am
I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/
Please please tell me you don't buy into any of that conspiracy shit mate? A couple of Alarm bells went off before I even got into the utter nonsense parts of his conspiracy theory.

Alarm bell number one: he calls himself "Spartacus" ffs. :oops: :lol:

Alarm bell number two: his claim that the government's of the world are injecting poison into people. :roll:

Alarm bell number three: his use of the sentence: "The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder."

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Everybody's favourite fashion obsessed fuckwad Linda McCartney-Zoolander or "Heccy B" as he likes to be known has waded in on the Ukraine with his observation that we are all racists because it is getting reported more than conflicts in other parts of the world. :roll:

Well Heccy Linda, you silly little cùnt maybe its getting reported more because it involves one of the so called "superpowers" that also just happens to have nuclear weapons. :x

Now fuck off and design a hemp manbag for David Beckham or some other cùnt. :lol: :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:26 am
begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:08 am
I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/
Please please tell me you don't buy into any of that conspiracy shit mate? A couple of Alarm bells went off before I even got into the utter nonsense parts of his conspiracy theory.

Alarm bell number one: he calls himself "Spartacus" ffs. :oops: :lol:

Alarm bell number two: his claim that the government's of the world are injecting poison into people. :roll:

Alarm bell number three: his use of the sentence: "The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder."

:coffeespit:
Some of it I do as it is sourced and other portions are still sourced, but still remains to be seen if it is true. For example, in the US, the FDA fought to hide the Emergency Use Authorization for Pfizer and sought to delay releasing clinical trial information for 55 years (they lost). Why would they do that unless there wasn't something to hide?

So, is it poison? It has limited effectiveness that wanes over a couple of months, depending on what you took. There are also 9 pages of adverse effects which comes with the Pfizer jab which wasn't disclosed until 3 weeks ago and only because of the FOIA in the US. There are now insurance companies which are speaking about all-cause mortality rates not ever seen over the past year.

Basically, the official narrative that was sold to the public has started to fall apart, so that raises more and more questions as to what else are we being lied to about because the government never lied to us before :lol:

If you do end up reading it, please keep an open mind and read the sources of information where they derived the information from. It would also answer your alarm bell number three better than I.

The reason that the guy took the name Spartacus is because of what he represented which was oppression from Oligarchs which is what he/they is/are suggesting is happening now. :D

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begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:11 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:26 am
begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:08 am
I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/
Please please tell me you don't buy into any of that conspiracy shit mate? A couple of Alarm bells went off before I even got into the utter nonsense parts of his conspiracy theory.

Alarm bell number one: he calls himself "Spartacus" ffs. :oops: :lol:

Alarm bell number two: his claim that the government's of the world are injecting poison into people. :roll:

Alarm bell number three: his use of the sentence: "The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder."

:coffeespit:
Some of it I do as it is sourced and other portions are still sourced, but still remains to be seen if it is true. For example, in the US, the FDA fought to hide the Emergency Use Authorization for Pfizer and sought to delay releasing clinical trial information for 55 years (they lost). Why would they do that unless there wasn't something to hide?

So, is it poison? It has limited effectiveness that wanes over a couple of months, depending on what you took. There are also 9 pages of adverse effects which comes with the Pfizer jab which wasn't disclosed until 3 weeks ago and only because of the FOIA in the US. There are now insurance companies which are speaking about all-cause mortality rates not ever seen over the past year.

Basically, the official narrative that was sold to the public has started to fall apart, so that raises more and more questions as to what else are we being lied to about because the government never lied to us before :lol:

If you do end up reading it, please keep an open mind and read the sources of information where they derived the information from. It would also answer your alarm bell number three better than I.

The reason that the guy took the name Spartacus is because of what he represented which was oppression from Oligarchs which is what he/they is/are suggesting is happening now. :D
It's what's termed "Gish Gallop" in research mate. They basically include little nuggets of truth here and there to make the conspiracy bits more believable. Here's a complete rebuttal of the Spartacus letter where they clearly describe his use of Gish Gallop techniques:

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/anon ... _id=758009

Of course the conspiracy believers will say that website is part of the conspiracy by "the Elites" to control us, hilariously by killing many of us it seems! :lol:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:38 pm

It's what's termed "Gish Gallop" in research mate. They basically include little nuggets of truth here and there to make the conspiracy bits more believable. Here's a complete rebuttal of the Spartacus letter where they clearly describe his use of Gish Gallop techniques:

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/anon ... _id=758009

Of course the conspiracy believers will say that website is part of the conspiracy by "the Elites" to control us, hilariously by killing many of us it seems! :lol:
It looks like you took your term 'Gish Gallop' from the website that you cite which goes on to say this 'perpetrators of Gish Gallop make it virtually impossible to rebut their arguments point by point.' In other words, they cannot rebut it and don't try. Sorry mate, but that is lazy.

Then they use this nugget - 'As for the claim that a global conspiracy is behind the pandemic, such claims are impossible to adequately refute due to the very secrecy such a conspiracy would require; anyone asserting that the conspiracy does not exist is either 1) in on the plot, or 2) simply uninformed'
This is a straw man argument because nowhere in the Spartacus article does it state anything remotely close. He states his case without prejudice on who reads it and what conclusion that they come to. The article then carries on with yet another strawman 'The letter itself alludes to this phenomenon, stating, “The majority of the public are scientifically illiterate and cannot grasp what any of this even means, thanks to a pathetic educational system that has miseducated them.' LOL - The letter alludes to - but actually doesn't say this at all. In other words - not true.

It also attempts to debunk Fauci and Moderna by quoting itself which references someone from a broadcast on Fox News. It doesn't try to address the sources in Spartacus letter at all. How is this debunking?? Fauci has direct ties with Wuhan/Moderna and the NIH partly owns the patent with Moderna - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-021-01166-1

It tries to address various non-vaccine interventions by talking only about ivermectin and then having one source from Duke and one from the FDA (who would be in trouble if Ivermectin worked because it would invalidate the EUA). It doesn't talk about anything else. Ivermectin. The Spartacus letter references loads of articles about Ivermectin.

Did you actually read the whole letter or did you immediately go to a fact checker site? It has many sources to it and many of those are from Faucis own NIH.

The fact checker that you posted needs to try harder.

Edit - DB - I am not having a go at you. I just posted a site to a very well researched series of articles for people to read and make up their own minds. If you don't want to read it, that's fine. I found quite a lot very interesting and others hard to grasp as I didn't think that technology had made it this far yet and will have to go away to find out myself.

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There's a Half Hour BBC Panorama programme about Abramovich's Dirty Millions on BBC I Player

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... tyMoney%5D

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begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:13 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:38 pm

It's what's termed "Gish Gallop" in research mate. They basically include little nuggets of truth here and there to make the conspiracy bits more believable. Here's a complete rebuttal of the Spartacus letter where they clearly describe his use of Gish Gallop techniques:

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/anon ... _id=758009

Of course the conspiracy believers will say that website is part of the conspiracy by "the Elites" to control us, hilariously by killing many of us it seems! :lol:
It looks like you took your term 'Gish Gallop' from the website that you cite which goes on to say this 'perpetrators of Gish Gallop make it virtually impossible to rebut their arguments point by point.' In other words, they cannot rebut it and don't try. Sorry mate, but that is lazy.

Then they use this nugget - 'As for the claim that a global conspiracy is behind the pandemic, such claims are impossible to adequately refute due to the very secrecy such a conspiracy would require; anyone asserting that the conspiracy does not exist is either 1) in on the plot, or 2) simply uninformed'
This is a straw man argument because nowhere in the Spartacus article does it state anything remotely close. He states his case without prejudice on who reads it and what conclusion that they come to. The article then carries on with yet another strawman 'The letter itself alludes to this phenomenon, stating, “The majority of the public are scientifically illiterate and cannot grasp what any of this even means, thanks to a pathetic educational system that has miseducated them.' LOL - The letter alludes to - but actually doesn't say this at all. In other words - not true.

It also attempts to debunk Fauci and Moderna by quoting itself which references someone from a broadcast on Fox News. It doesn't try to address the sources in Spartacus letter at all. How is this debunking?? Fauci has direct ties with Wuhan/Moderna and the NIH partly owns the patent with Moderna - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-021-01166-1

It tries to address various non-vaccine interventions by talking only about ivermectin and then having one source from Duke and one from the FDA (who would be in trouble if Ivermectin worked because it would invalidate the EUA). It doesn't talk about anything else. Ivermectin. The Spartacus letter references loads of articles about Ivermectin.

Did you actually read the whole letter or did you immediately go to a fact checker site? It has many sources to it and many of those are from Faucis own NIH.

The fact checker that you posted needs to try harder.

Edit - DB - I am not having a go at you. I just posted a site to a very well researched series of articles for people to read and make up their own minds. If you don't want to read it, that's fine. I found quite a lot very interesting and others hard to grasp as I didn't think that technology had made it this far yet and will have to go away to find out myself.
Gish Gallop is a well known term for a well know conspiracy technique. Heard it and other variations of it years ago. What he did in his letter and with the wider conspiracy stuff on that site is exactly that: overload the reader with numerous uncheckable pieces of information and dress I up with a few facts. There is another technique at play here too, where they quote lots of "sources" but very few people understand how to accurately check those sources so those "sources" are taken as real on face value They often are not or are often only selectively quoted.

My point with the fact checker site is that the letter is purpetrated as fact by one group, discredited completely by another.

This conspiracy theory is ridiculous. A group of "Elites" is conspiring to control us by unleashing a global pandemic that kills people? Come on ffs. The modern human - in the west in particular - is a sedate person. Give them food, Internet access and heat and they are placid. No need for a pandemic to control them! :lol:

No personal insult taken at this end mate. It's a forum for debate! :wink:

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begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:13 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:38 pm

It's what's termed "Gish Gallop" in research mate. They basically include little nuggets of truth here and there to make the conspiracy bits more believable. Here's a complete rebuttal of the Spartacus letter where they clearly describe his use of Gish Gallop techniques:

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/anon ... _id=758009

Of course the conspiracy believers will say that website is part of the conspiracy by "the Elites" to control us, hilariously by killing many of us it seems! :lol:
It looks like you took your term 'Gish Gallop' from the website that you cite which goes on to say this 'perpetrators of Gish Gallop make it virtually impossible to rebut their arguments point by point.' In other words, they cannot rebut it and don't try. Sorry mate, but that is lazy.

Then they use this nugget - 'As for the claim that a global conspiracy is behind the pandemic, such claims are impossible to adequately refute due to the very secrecy such a conspiracy would require; anyone asserting that the conspiracy does not exist is either 1) in on the plot, or 2) simply uninformed'
This is a straw man argument because nowhere in the Spartacus article does it state anything remotely close. He states his case without prejudice on who reads it and what conclusion that they come to. The article then carries on with yet another strawman 'The letter itself alludes to this phenomenon, stating, “The majority of the public are scientifically illiterate and cannot grasp what any of this even means, thanks to a pathetic educational system that has miseducated them.' LOL - The letter alludes to - but actually doesn't say this at all. In other words - not true.

It also attempts to debunk Fauci and Moderna by quoting itself which references someone from a broadcast on Fox News. It doesn't try to address the sources in Spartacus letter at all. How is this debunking?? Fauci has direct ties with Wuhan/Moderna and the NIH partly owns the patent with Moderna - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-021-01166-1

It tries to address various non-vaccine interventions by talking only about ivermectin and then having one source from Duke and one from the FDA (who would be in trouble if Ivermectin worked because it would invalidate the EUA). It doesn't talk about anything else. Ivermectin. The Spartacus letter references loads of articles about Ivermectin.

Did you actually read the whole letter or did you immediately go to a fact checker site? It has many sources to it and many of those are from Faucis own NIH.

The fact checker that you posted needs to try harder.

Edit - DB - I am not having a go at you. I just posted a site to a very well researched series of articles for people to read and make up their own minds. If you don't want to read it, that's fine. I found quite a lot very interesting and others hard to grasp as I didn't think that technology had made it this far yet and will have to go away to find out myself.
It always amazes me that gullible idiots have time to read conspiracy theories which are all nonsense rather than just sticking to the clear straightforward medical advice that has proved time and time again will protect you from the COVID virus.
If everyone had stuck to this medical advice we could have exited the pandemic quicker than we have.

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What a load of rubbish , the worrying thing is that there are people out there who actually believe this crap.

Actually maybe it is time that this silly post is deleted and we revert back to footy .

Fuck me I swear I just saw a UFO fly by commanded by Putin oh ffs DB delete people / posts etc

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begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:08 am
I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/
I get really angry when I see this sort of shit posted on Social Media, I guarantee not one of these articles has been peer-reviewed by any of the major medical bodies in the world.

Our greatest failing in this pandemic has been allowing material like this to be put out on the internet without accountability. This is highly politicised and ironically a lot of the material emanates from the US, which has one of the worst COVID records in the world.

As a result, despite the advances in medical technology, many thousands more have died than needed to.

Real-world info, I have taken Paxlovid from Monday, it's given me mild side effects and stopped what would have been a much more severe version of COVID knocking me out. Given my existing health conditions it could have been very nasty. Today, five days in I feel fine.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:23 am
begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:08 am
I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/
I get really angry when I see this sort of shit posted on Social Media, I guarantee not one of these articles has been peer-reviewed by any of the major medical bodies in the world.

Our greatest failing in this pandemic has been allowing material like this to be put out on the internet without accountability. This is highly politicised and ironically a lot of the material emanates from the US, which has one of the worst COVID records in the world.

As a result, despite the advances in medical technology, many thousands more have died than needed to.

Real-world info, I have taken Paxlovid from Monday, it's given me mild side effects and stopped what would have been a much more severe version of COVID knocking me out. Given my existing health conditions it could have been very nasty. Today, five days in I feel fine.
Glad you're feeling OK nutty, I'm feeling fine too, don't have any health issues so I should have felt fine, I have been catching up on outside work to my house and garden buildings, it's been lovely weather to do it in and a cold beer helps, good luck to anyone else who has got it.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:23 am
begeegs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:08 am
I was on to a very interesting website which has a broad overview of the whole coronavirus situation which is excellently sourced as well. It also goes into some detail into the WEF and the transhumanism movement which is frightening indeed. If you have time to read, start with the Spartacus Letter as this is the high level view, but still incredibly detailed. The rest of the website goes into the sources referenced. It reads like some sort of Bond film minus Bond and his entourage of women.

https://iceni.substack.com/
I get really angry when I see this sort of shit posted on Social Media, I guarantee not one of these articles has been peer-reviewed by any of the major medical bodies in the world.

Our greatest failing in this pandemic has been allowing material like this to be put out on the internet without accountability. This is highly politicised and ironically a lot of the material emanates from the US, which has one of the worst COVID records in the world.

As a result, despite the advances in medical technology, many thousands more have died than needed to.

Real-world info, I have taken Paxlovid from Monday, it's given me mild side effects and stopped what would have been a much more severe version of COVID knocking me out. Given my existing health conditions it could have been very nasty. Today, five days in I feel fine.
Did you actually take time to look at the sources at the end of the document before dismissing it? If you did, you'd see that quite a lot of these are from what you would term credible institutions and traditional media.

As I said, this was well researched and rather than get angry about it and try to smear the article - try scrolling to the end and see why I said that it was well sourced.

I am glad that you recovered from Covid. I have had it twice now with both times very mild.

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shu wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:18 am
What a load of rubbish , the worrying thing is that there are people out there who actually believe this crap.

Actually maybe it is time that this silly post is deleted and we revert back to footy .

Fuck me I swear I just saw a UFO fly by commanded by Putin oh ffs DB delete people / posts etc
Ok - Tell me why it is rubbish?

Edit - Nevermind. I give up. Please censor me.

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