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If it was basketball we’d have won, he’s gone full blown batshit Wenger
Did he say that ??? Seriously ??
It’s just an analogy ffs
He was just saying we did enough to win with possession, territory and chances but, unlike basketball where that’s generally who wins, football is more unforgiving and we were punished for being poor in the box.
You may think it’s a shit analogy but his general view that we weren’t clinical enough is true and I’m not sure it’s worthy of criticism.
For me it is, mate. It shows his ego won't accept he got it wrong and that despite the evidence he thinks he somehow deserves to win these games, that he is entitled to win them. It demonstrates a worryingly batshit self obsession and a borderline persecution complex tbh. Its exactly the kind of guff Wenger used to spit out after he lost the plot.
I still dont believe he will be going anywhere soon, our owners always appear very reluctant to admit they have made mistakes and any position above 8th will be enough justification for them to say we have improved and that the money was well spent. As a club we absolutely 100% need someone at board level who is not only able to understand the mistakes being made but also to explain them to the Kroenkes and face them down if necessary.
The above should be Edu's brief but I just dont get that vibe from him at all, I get the feeling Arteta was as much his appointment as the Kroenkes and therefore he would need to admit he got it wrong as much as the owners.
We are arguably in as bad a position as when Wenger left and are repeating the mistakes made during that period, will things change, probably not and I am in my mind already writing off next season for various reasons
If it was basketball we’d have won, he’s gone full blown batshit Wenger
Did he say that ??? Seriously ??
It’s just an analogy ffs
He was just saying we did enough to win with possession, territory and chances but, unlike basketball where that’s generally who wins, football is more unforgiving and we were punished for being poor in the box.
You may think it’s a shit analogy but his general view that we weren’t clinical enough is true and I’m not sure it’s worthy of criticism.
I know that it was an analogy but it was a stupid and embarassing thing to say - it is deflecting away from why we lost a football game by using bullshit like stats on possession etc. In football you have to put the ball into the net - if we cant do that in football where the net is massive, what hope have we of putting it into a small basketball net ? Wenger used to come out with crap like that (half a season champions, 4th place trophy etc) and we used to rightly hammer him for it
You may think it’s a shit analogy but his general view that we weren’t clinical enough is true and I’m not sure it’s worthy of criticism.
For me it is, mate. It shows his ego won't accept he got it wrong and that despite the evidence he thinks he somehow deserves to win these games, that he is entitled to win them. It demonstrates a worryingly batshit self obsession and a borderline persecution complex tbh. Its exactly the kind of guff Wenger used to spit out after he lost the plot.
We created chances and scuffed every bloody one of them + Southampton were more clinical with their chance. That’s all he was saying really. I was frustrated as hell so it’s no surprise he was too. We’ve played worse and won in recent months. Voicing that frustration isn’t persecution complex or evidence he’s lost the plot… it’s a human response of exasperation shared with many in the match thread during the game (I can still see Saka, ESR & Odegaard’s misses when I close my eyes )
He’s obviously got an ego and he’s made many mistakes this season but yesterday’s comment about us doing enough to win but not being clinical are correct. The analogy wasn’t great but ffs he’s a Spaniard speaking English live on air minutes after we’ve lost a game and he’s come up with an analogy off the cuff. Far too much is made of these things… if all our comments were in front of a camera I can guarantee most would say a lot of things they’d later wish they’d articulated better
You may think it’s a shit analogy but his general view that we weren’t clinical enough is true and I’m not sure it’s worthy of criticism.
For me it is, mate. It shows his ego won't accept he got it wrong and that despite the evidence he thinks he somehow deserves to win these games, that he is entitled to win them. It demonstrates a worryingly batshit self obsession and a borderline persecution complex tbh. Its exactly the kind of guff Wenger used to spit out after he lost the plot.
We created chances and scuffed every bloody one of them + Southampton were more clinical with their chance. That’s all he was saying really. I was frustrated as hell so it’s no surprise he was too. We’ve played worse and won in recent months. Voicing that frustration isn’t persecution complex or evidence he’s lost the plot… it’s a human response that was written many times in this thread during the game.
He’s obviously got an ego and he’s made many mistakes this season but yesterday’s comment about us doing enough to win but not being clinical are correct. The analogy wasn’t great but ffs he’s a Spaniard speaking English live on air minutes after we’ve lost a game and he’s come up with an analogy off the cuff. Far too much is made of these things… if all our comments were in front of a camera I can guarantee most would say a lot of things they’d later wish they’d articulated better.
Given some of the rubbish written on here when people have had time to think I think we can safely assume that is correct
You may think it’s a shit analogy but his general view that we weren’t clinical enough is true and I’m not sure it’s worthy of criticism.
For me it is, mate. It shows his ego won't accept he got it wrong and that despite the evidence he thinks he somehow deserves to win these games, that he is entitled to win them. It demonstrates a worryingly batshit self obsession and a borderline persecution complex tbh. Its exactly the kind of guff Wenger used to spit out after he lost the plot.
We created chances and scuffed every bloody one of them + Southampton were more clinical with their chance. That’s all he was saying really. I was frustrated as hell so it’s no surprise he was too. We’ve played worse and won in recent months. Voicing that frustration isn’t persecution complex or evidence he’s lost the plot… it’s a human response that was written many times in this thread during the game.
He’s obviously got an ego and he’s made many mistakes this season but yesterday’s comment about us doing enough to win but not being clinical are correct. The analogy wasn’t great but ffs he’s a Spaniard speaking English live on air minutes after we’ve lost a game and he’s come up with an analogy off the cuff. Far too much is made of these things… if all our comments were in front of a camera I can guarantee most would say a lot of things they’d later wish they’d articulated better.
Given some of the rubbish written on here when people have had time to think I think we can safely assume that is correct
Yeah, I’ve never enjoyed it but I have to do public speaking in my job. Even on subjects I’m confident on, a rogue question can throw me for a few seconds… but with the camera on you and people waiting for an answer, it’s very easy to say something you’re not totally satisfied with when you look back.
I feel sorry for managers and players because people scrutinise their every word way too much. It’s difficult to be perfect all the time… even more so minutes after a gut wrenching defeat. Typing is far easier… plenty of time to reflect and edit before you press send!
Lacazette: "I am in discussions with a lot of clubs. I am open. I want to play in Europe, it’s been a long time since I played in the Champions League, I’m missing it."
The same guy who has been shit for months now plotting his next move away from the club as our twat of a manager relied on a guy half way out the door as our main option up front, conference level stiff.
Lacazette: "I am in discussions with a lot of clubs. I am open. I want to play in Europe, it’s been a long time since I played in the Champions League, I’m missing it."
The same guy who has been shit for months now plotting his next move away from the club as our twat of a manager relied on a guy half way out the door as our main option up front, conference level stiff.
Some players really get what they deserve don't they. What a fucking daft thing to come out with when you've been as shit as he has been for months.
Simply cannot decide on Arteta at this moment in time. Annoyed we've lost the last 3 when we were in 4th. Could completely change if we win the next 3.
Yet, since he's been at the club he's won the FA Cup, beat Liverpool in the charity shield. Reached a semifinal of a cup competition in each of his seasons in charge. Made brave decisions in moving players out of the club that were affecting morale, and the payroll budget. Brought in some good quality players, and can see the young players improving and tightened up our ten year long defensive frailties. Compared to those clubs around us, he's doing a decent job for a rookie. Which is part of the problem I have with him. Arsenal should be a place for established elite managers. But, he didn't recruit himself, and nothing against him as a person.
