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StuartL wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:06 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
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mcdowell42 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:30 am
Growing belief at Fulham that they can wrap up a deal for Arsenal goalkeeper Bernd Leno. Still work to be done, but likely fee would be around the £10m mark.

I have no faith in Arteta, so most of what he does puzzles me, but I could never work out why he dropped Martinez, who'd performed fabulously well in the run in of the 19/20 season, including being a big part of the winning Cup run and immediately reinstated Leno once fit and sold Martinez. Then, in no time at all, he buys Ramsdale and drops Leno. Made no sense.

It's only my opinion, but Martinez is a better keeper than both of them and ticked all the right boxes for me. Big and commands his area, catches the ball instead of constantly punching it (or trying to punch it in Ramsdale's case), reassures his defenders, rather than Ramsdale's chaotic and hysterical screaming, shouting, high fiving :roll: and arm waving.

The clown Arteta got rid of the best keeper we'd had for years, for no discernible reason. The guy had performed brilliantly.
I don’t suppose you have had 30 years in football Neil ?

I would happily have kept Martinez as no1, as long as his performances merited it, but, if rumour is to be believed, he wanted an assurance that he was no 1 over an experienced keeper and if Arteta had caved to his demands that early in his career he would have been crucified.

If we can have the Ramsdale who was performing at the level prior to his England call up then, in my opinion, we got an upgrade.

You know I'm an old fucker Stuart, so it's well in excess of 30 years now! :lol:

Well, in my opinion, Arteta should have told Martinez that he had earned the No. 1 position, which his impeccable performances over a sustained period warranted (if memory serves me well, he was comfortably the Prem's best performing keeper over that period), but that, of course, no one can be guaranteed to be a permanent No.1. That if his level dropped, then Leno was waiting in the wings. I can't see that Emi would have objected to a structure that should apply to all footballers in any position...eg. if you're performing you're in, if not you're out.

I suspect that Arteta knew that he'd lose whichever one wasn't made number 1 and decided that he'd prefer to keep Leno. As usual with Captain Black, it was the wrong decision. Very quickly afterwards decides that Leno isn't cutting it (meanwhile, Emi performing very well at Villa) and brings in Ramsdale.

As for Ramsdale, I'm far from convinced. Too erratic and chaotic for my liking. Defenders need a calm and reassuring presence behind them and his manic antics are more inclined to cause panic. He also rarely catches, even when it's very possible, which Emi always does. He'll make spectacular reaction saves, but his decision making is often horrific and his positioning suspect, he doesn't command the area in a calm, dominant manner and the ball often bounces off him into very dangerous areas. Let's be honest, over 90% of a keeper's job, is not those spectacular saves (which Martinez made plenty of too btw), it's a cool, calm and able presence, that reassures the backline instead of spooking them.

I'll make a prediction now....there'll be some serious questions raised about Ramsdale (at least on here :lol: ) during the course of the next season.

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Retro , i agree with your view on Martinez and i think we made a mistake there but i think Ramsdale is a top keeper and he will continue to learn. He certainly saved us a lot early on the season , maybe he just got a bit confident , that's youth for you mate. :D

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shu wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:04 am
Retro , i agree with your view on Martinez and i think we made a mistake there but i think Ramsdale is a top keeper and he will continue to learn. He certainly saved us a lot early on the season , maybe he just got a bit confident , that's youth for you mate. :D

Bloody youth!! :lol:

Well Shu, I hope you're right, but the bloke was making me a nervous wreck towards the end of the season. Far too erratic. Coming, stopping, caught in no man's land, flapping at crosses, pushes shots straight back out, screaming, shouting and waving his arms like a lunatic. He was all over the gaff at times.

I fear that he's one of those keepers that all too often will have a cracking game, followed by a horror show. Calm consistency is what you need between the sticks and I think he might be the polar opposite.

I keep saying on here regarding many things, that I hope I'm wrong and I honestly do, but.... :( .

We'll see.

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According to Goal Brazil, Arsenal are interested in signing Paqueta and Edu has told the midfielder’s representatives that they want to make a formal offer before the end of the window.


I don't suppose it ever occurred to them to pick up a phone and make an offer.

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Midz wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:36 pm
According to Goal Brazil, Arsenal are interested in signing Paqueta and Edu has told the midfielder’s representatives that they want to make a formal offer before the end of the window.


I don't suppose it ever occurred to them to pick up a phone and make an offer.
Fuck off, that's far too radical for our mob....they still use the telegraph and pony express :wink:

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Midz wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:36 pm
According to Goal Brazil, Arsenal are interested in signing Paqueta and Edu has told the midfielder’s representatives that they want to make a formal offer before the end of the window.


I don't suppose it ever occurred to them to pick up a phone and make an offer.
By the time that absolute waste of space has finished letting Paqueta, his representative and his nan know about the offer it probably took so long, he could've picked up the phone and put an offer directly to Lyon.

Shite way to buy time, if that is what he is doing.

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So, beloved KT has lasted a total of 30 minutes. Faking hell, can this boy stay healthy for a string of matches or do we have Scottish Super Jack here. If it's not the calf, it's the hamstring, if it's not that, it's the left arm and carry on...

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Midz wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:36 pm
According to Goal Brazil, Arsenal are interested in signing Paqueta and Edu has told the midfielder’s representatives that they want to make a formal offer before the end of the window.
No point making it after the end of the window. :D

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I can see Paquetas name on the 'I nearly signed him' list by Arteta in a couple of years time, along with Tielemans :roll:

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TeeCee wrote:
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I can see Paquetas name on the 'I nearly signed him' list by Arteta in a couple of years time, along with Tielemans :roll:

Yep, he is Wenger's progeny, that's for sure. I still suspect that the old fucker is pulling his strings. I doubt he makes a move without a phone call to the great French sage. :roll:

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🚨 || Arsenal & Lyon are in negotiations for Lucas Paqueta. Lyon requesting €60m (£50m). The player wants to make a leap in his career both financially & sporting wise [Via - @Gabe_Carneiro].

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gooner265 wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:40 pm
🚨 || Arsenal & Lyon are in negotiations for Lucas Paqueta. Lyon requesting €60m (£50m). The player wants to make a leap in his career both financially & sporting wise [Via - @Gabe_Carneiro].
Wasn’t it just last year that Aoeur was a player from Lyon that Arteta “was in Love with” and then we gave up on him.

I know nothing about this guy, other than he is Brazilian and an attacking midfielder ?

It’s the defensive side of midfield that we need to upgrade (Xhaka)

Can he cover, tackle, track runs, point ?

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Well he can point..........I take it you were talking about Xhaka? :lol:

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:47 am
shu wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:04 am
Retro , i agree with your view on Martinez and i think we made a mistake there but i think Ramsdale is a top keeper and he will continue to learn. He certainly saved us a lot early on the season , maybe he just got a bit confident , that's youth for you mate. :D

Bloody youth!! :lol:

Well Shu, I hope you're right, but the bloke was making me a nervous wreck towards the end of the season. Far too erratic. Coming, stopping, caught in no man's land, flapping at crosses, pushes shots straight back out, screaming, shouting and waving his arms like a lunatic. He was all over the gaff at times.

I fear that he's one of those keepers that all too often will have a cracking game, followed by a horror show. Calm consistency is what you need between the sticks and I think he might be the polar opposite.

I keep saying on here regarding many things, that I hope I'm wrong and I honestly do, but.... :( .

We'll see.
No fair enough , good point well made

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gooner265 wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:40 pm
🚨 || Arsenal & Lyon are in negotiations for Lucas Paqueta. Lyon requesting €60m (£50m). The player wants to make a leap in his career both financially & sporting wise [Via - @Gabe_Carneiro].

Hmmm, won't be coming to us then.

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