ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[A11M11]

You are based in France so probably have seen more of him than cameo reports we get here.
However even so , tipping out the baby with the bath water before taking a look at him doesn't seem good practice . I still think that it's him or Eddie for the third striker in the squad and whichever stays the other goes maybe in January.

[OneBardGooner]

I said on here before, if you look at You tube for all of Baloguns goals last season for Reims, it's not so impressive. Some are penalties, most of which were actually struck fairly poorly. Many of his goals were mis-hit, scuffed or really poor defending/goal-keeping. Yes he makes some good runs, but I really have massive question marks over his finishing and the step up from Ligue 1 to the PL is enormous, it's like the Championship/Division 1 here, it's really poor outside the top teams. If we can get 40m or over for Balogun, I would have no problem selling him.

Before his loan move beseemed a tad 'Lightweight' for the Prem in terms of his robustness, though of course not only will he have improved (or at least should have done playing regularly - even though at a lower level than the Prem). I haven't seen him play since he appeared a few times for us but reports have been very positive. He certainly isn't lacking in confidence (any more) and his appearances in the US National Team have garnered only positive reviews.

It looks like we can get more for him than Eddie (no surprise there! ) So if a decent (as in £45 - £50Million) does come in sell him; I just hope he doesn't turn into the next Gnabry

[rodders999]

The Balogun loan has worked out perfectly for us, very similar to Willock’s spell at Newcastle where he caught fire for 7 games and we stung them for £25m as a result.

I’ve seen all his goals from last season and as TeeCee says there’s a lot of shite in there as well as 6 penalties to pad his stats. Now there’s nothing wrong with a shit goal (or penalty) but at no point is he beating a man and rifling it into the net or racing through one on one to slot it home past the keeper. When I’ve watched him I’m not seeing a top class striker looking like he’s on the verge of cutting loose.

You only have to look at Lacazette finishing as the league’s top scorer to realise just how much of a health warning comes with assigning value to players scoring goals in France. It’s complete pubbers stuff for the most part outside the top 3 or 4 teams. Mbappe should be scoring 40 goals in the league if he could be arsed.

Balogun’s stock will never be as high and if we got offered 40-50 million I’d cut him loose. There’s definitely an element of risk involved that he could catch fire somewhere else but in my opinion I think it’s highly unlikely.

Cut and run then reinvest.

[OneBardGooner]

You Da Man Rodders!

[mcdowell42]

|| Arsenal expected to announce double signing of Rice & Timber next week. Rice has completed a two-part medical & already undergone media duties [Via - @ChrisWheatley].

[Midz]

I agree about Balogun. His stock will never be as high as it is now so take whatever we can get for him while we can and reinvest the money.

Him and Eddie should go imo.

[Midz]

Could we sign Aurelien Tchouameni please?

[Arsenal Till I Die]

I said on here before, if you look at You tube for all of Baloguns goals last season for Reims, it's not so impressive. Some are penalties, most of which were actually struck fairly poorly. Many of his goals were mis-hit, scuffed or really poor defending/goal-keeping. Yes he makes some good runs, but I really have massive question marks over his finishing and the step up from Ligue 1 to the PL is enormous, it's like the Championship/Division 1 here, it's really poor outside the top teams. If we can get 40m or over for Balogun, I would have no problem selling him.

Mate, I’m curious; would you say Balogun offers more than Nketiah from what you may have seen?

I’m all for giving Balogun a chance, primarily because I’ve seen enough of Nketiah to know he’ll never be what we need to win anything. At the same time, I’m also on the side of selling Balogun for a large fee (with a buy back clause) if the opportunity arises this summer.

I’m genuine interested in the opinions of those who have seen Balogun’s contributions this year, because the lad has some hype around him and it’s worth considering whether he gets his shot with us ahead of Nketiah next year, or not.

If it were me, I’d go out and sign a goalscoring CF, make Jesus and Balogun fight it out for second choice. Chances of that aren’t high though.

[Arsenal Till I Die]

Could we sign Aurelien Tchouameni please?

I’ve seen his named chucked about lot recently, is he any good?

[augie]

Could we sign Aurelien Tchouameni please?

I’ve seen his named chucked about lot recently, is he any good?

He is quality - young, athletic, strong on the ball and will be one of the best midfielders in europe in coming years. My argument all along was that we should have gone after him or camivinga (sp ) instead of rice cos (a) they are better players (b) they would be maybe 15m-20m cheaper, but if we got both then we would be on a different level imo.
However I dont believe that is even a grain of truth to these rumours - if el basque is committed to playing havertz in the swiss turds position, then why would we buy another high price midfielder ? I know every team needs quality back ups, but we aint a state funded club and cant afford to be shelling out massive money on back ups - I would be very happy with a midfield consisting of Tchouameni rice and Smith-Rowe/odeargod, but again it would lead to questions as to why we bought the german dud from chavs.

Right now the focus should be on a top quality 20+ league goals a season striker - it wont be cos arteta is a jesus fan, but it should be

[BobbyPires7]

I don’t get this suggestion that we try out Balogun in the Prem and if he isn’t up to it we flog him on for big money. Isn’t that the point? If he’s actually crap then it will be a busted flush. From what I have seen he is a bit of a poacher. One that scores some pretty scruffy almost fluked goals plus a few pens. IMO we either flog him for top money now or we end up selling him for £20m once he flops. There’s a chance he kicks on and is mustard but it will be like putting a horse that’s won a maiden into a Group One at Royal Ascot. Yes he has a good trainer and the attitude is there but i reckon he will be well out of his depth in the Prem.

[TeeCee]

For me, Balogun and Eddie are similar players talent wise. Both can do a job for a mid table side but in my opinion, neither are good enough for a side trying to win the title/CL.
The main thing for me is this....... We are all excited by the thought of what Balogun MIGHT do, he may become a top player, he may score shed loads of goals but does he look like he's the real deal now? No, he doesn't. Players like Anelka, Cesc, they totally looked the part already at 18/19yo, Balogun really doesn't imo.

Sell him but put that buy back clause in the deal...... Just in case!! Not that he would want to come back I imagine though, may be better to put a sell on clause in there to get more money.

[augie]

For me, Balogun and Eddie are similar players talent wise. Both can do a job for a mid table side but in my opinion, neither are good enough for a side trying to win the title/CL.
The main thing for me is this....... We are all excited by the thought of what Balogun MIGHT do, he may become a top player, he may score shed loads of goals but does he look like he's the real deal now? No, he doesn't. Players like Anelka, Cesc, they totally looked the part already at 18/19yo, Balogun really doesn't imo.

Sell him but put that buy back clause in the deal...... Just in case!! Not that he would want to come back I imagine though, may be better to put a sell on clause in there to get more money.

Both are perfect for what el basque wants imo - both decent back ups, but neither good enough to threaten the first choice place of jesus. El basque didnt learn that from pep - pep had one of the best goal scorers in premier league history (Aguero), but it didnt stop him going out to try and get better. El basque doesnt want the contraversy of disgruntled gabi jesus, so no striker will be brought in to take his spot

[BobbyPires7]

Balogun is not perfect for what Arteta wants. He is another Martinez attitude wise demanding he starts as our main striker. If he isn’t then he wants to be sold.

[augie]

Balogun is not perfect for what Arteta wants. He is another Martinez attitude wise demanding he starts as our main striker. If he isn’t then he wants to be sold.

IF there is big money on the table for him (and I doubt there is tbh), then we should absolutely sell - big money for an unproven player is a no brainer imo. Question then becomes, did we sell to recoup what we have already spent, or are we selling to generate funds for a top quality striker ?