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That will go down as one of the most corrupt games the league has seen. Bent.

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Absolute fucking joke.

Something needs to be done.

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Further proof that there is match-fixing at stake. How can they make exactly the same error again and again and expect people to think that it's just 'mistakes'. If a goal is incorrectly ruled out by a VAR error and it goes onto cost a side a point or a win, the game should be replayed from the point of the disallowed goal with the goal now standing or the result is changed to reflect the goal that should or shouldn't have stood. So last season, we are awarded a 1-0 win against Brentford and today the dippers get a 2-2 draw. Finally, the officials need to be sacked for good.

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The linesman should never have put his flag up in the first place - he’s meant to leave the one on one play out and have it checked afterwards to see if it’s offside (like the untied one against us a few weeks back).

And then you’ve got to believe the same bullshit they spun after our game against Brentford- that both the VAR and assistant VAR have both “forgotten” to check it.

Sickening shit.

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rodders999 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:30 pm
Gunner Rob wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:28 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:20 pm
Confirmed that the Liverpool goal was onside :roll:

Whole thing is a fix
It seemed to get dismissed too quick.
Really odd.
Another one in the “we forget to check it” category like us v Brentford.

Howard Webb has to be first to go and then everyone else. Fucking sick


As much as I never liked the c.unt was he was refereeing himself, this cant be put on Webb - the c.unts doing var for the game should be sacked not suspended and then maybe we will see some improvements. Personally I have never wanted var and that hasnt changed - losing games to bad decisions can happen in real time to any team, but it should not happen with var and I would bin the whole fcuking system tbh. When you have the technology that they have at their disposal there should be no fcuk ups and yet here we are - it is just jobs for the boys and is still a flawed practice

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Joe Lewis.

Nothing more to say. Been at it for years.

Sickening

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You do have to question why there are all these dodgy decisions in the premier league but yet they don’t seem to be there in the champions league

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Neville saying that they get the feed from stockley park and that the referee was told “check complete” - yet PGMOL are now trying to spin the lie that they forgot to check.

So what you’re meant to believe is that two people forgot to check the offside but didn’t forget to say check complete to the referee.

This could be the one that brings it down.

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It's either incomptetance, in which case, VAR needs to be suspended until referees are giving more training and need to have all their conversations broadcast and checked by a supervisor in real-time before a decision is made or it's match-fixing. There's no real middle ground. Hard not to now think it's match-fixing.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:06 pm
You do have to question why there are all these dodgy decisions in the premier league but yet they don’t seem to be there in the champions league
They don’t happen in any other league in Europe let alone champions league or Europa. There’s absolutely none of this shit in any other league than ours, so it’s either incompetence or corruption- you decide.

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augie wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:03 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:30 pm
Gunner Rob wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:28 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:20 pm
Confirmed that the Liverpool goal was onside :roll:

Whole thing is a fix
It seemed to get dismissed too quick.
Really odd.
Another one in the “we forget to check it” category like us v Brentford.

Howard Webb has to be first to go and then everyone else. Fucking sick


As much as I never liked the c.unt was he was refereeing himself, this cant be put on Webb - the c.unts doing var for the game should be sacked not suspended and then maybe we will see some improvements. Personally I have never wanted var and that hasnt changed - losing games to bad decisions can happen in real time to any team, but it should not happen with var and I would bin the whole fcuking system tbh. When you have the technology that they have at their disposal there should be no fcuk ups and yet here we are - it is just jobs for the boys and is still a flawed practice

That’s what happens in every organisation in the world when the the shit hits the fan Augster - the top guy’s head is the first to roll.

Last season when they fucked us over against Brentford they sacked Lee Mason only to rehire him in the summer to train new referees! Holy fucking shit - imagine that happening in any other walk of life.

Webb needs to be the first to go and then there needs to be a root and breach overhaul of referees in this league - 30 years overdue but better late than never.

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It's not the system that's the problem it's those using it. Bin them all off and get new officials in. Ones that aren't all fucking mates with each other and have no contact between them other than during games

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The biggest issue with VAR is that the same refs that ref the games then control the VAR. Other European leagues have totally separate VAR teams as they are specialist. They also aren’t pals with the refs. It’s like marking your own homework. Too many strong personality refs with big reputations who don’t want to be pulled up by the junior refs. It’s a total clusterfuck of a system that we have here. I would go as far as to bring in European VAR teams. That way the refs stay the same on the pitch and we get proper VAR decisions from proper VAR specialists. It also removes any corruption as we can sack VAR refs for any bad decisions without upsetting the rest of the refs.

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the playing mantis wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:04 pm
Joe Lewis.

Nothing more to say. Been at it for years.

Sickening

It does make you wonder. Three bad decisions today.

1. The Jones sending off. I didn’t think it was a red, but you can see it both ways. However, you could see the screen when VAR told the ref to check and it was frozen on the worst view of the contact. It then showed the challenge from only one angle, the worst one and not the angle where you can see his foot roll over the top of the ball and that it was a genuine challenge…imo.

2. The first Jota booking, where Udogie tripped himself.

3. The disallowed Diaz goal with no lines drawn by VAR.

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rodders999 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:09 pm
Neville saying that they get the feed from stockley park and that the referee was told “check complete” - yet PGMOL are now trying to spin the lie that they forgot to check.

So what you’re meant to believe is that two people forgot to check the offside but didn’t forget to say check complete to the referee.

This could be the one that brings it down.

It could be Rodders, because it’s the Victims and they don’t let anything lie. For once I hope they make their usual campaign about injustice.

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