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There was list of the 5 on twitter earlier,but I wasn't really paying attention so i can't remember all 5 ,but 2 of them were Rob Green ex West Ham GK I think and Stephen Reid ex Irish international,not sure how legit the list was as Reid is a 1st team coach at forest,wouldn't have thought that someone currently involved with a PL club could be on an independent panel.
Located the tweet with the names ,not sure if the list is correct though
They are -
Steven Reid
Rob Green
Karen Carney
Jon Walters
Terry Burton
That has to be a bu!!shit list - there is no referee/pgmol representative there for starters
There was list of the 5 on twitter earlier,but I wasn't really paying attention so i can't remember all 5 ,but 2 of them were Rob Green ex West Ham GK I think and Stephen Reid ex Irish international,not sure how legit the list was as Reid is a 1st team coach at forest,wouldn't have thought that someone currently involved with a PL club could be on an independent panel.
Located the tweet with the names ,not sure if the list is correct though
They are -
Steven Reid
Rob Green
Karen Carney
Jon Walters
Terry Burton
That has to be a bu!!shit list - there is no referee/pgmol representative there for starters
Thought that myself so I'm just presuming the person who put up the list was only listing ex players,now he was asked for a source but didn't give 1
Let’s see how well the ruling of “he was already going down” or “he’d already made an action to play the ball” holds up when they look to rule out one of our goals
Let’s see how well the ruling of “he was already going down” or “he’d already made an action to play the ball” holds up when they look to rule out one of our goals
Fuck off you cheating, corrupt, bent C.UNTS
If you think about it, Gabriel was watching the ball float over Raya. He had to stoop down in order to anticipate that he may have to head it away. So he was stooping low or otherwise he was stood up too high to clear the ball. Joelinton then pushes him as he is stooped low, preventing him from heading it away. All these barcode fans and failed ex players and refs think this justifies the foul. Bullshit does it.
Let’s see how well the ruling of “he was already going down” or “he’d already made an action to play the ball” holds up when they look to rule out one of our goals
Fuck off you cheating, corrupt, bent C.UNTS
If you think about it, Gabriel was watching the ball float over Raya. He had to stoop down in order to anticipate that he may have to head it away. So he was stooping low or otherwise he was stood up too high to clear the ball. Joelinton then pushes him as he is stooped low, preventing him from heading it away. All these barcode fans and failed ex players and refs think this justifies the foul. Bullshit does it.
Absolutely right, Bobby. Defender pushes a forward in the same way in that situation and it's a penalty every single time. Rice or Saliba score like that from a header and it's a foul every time against us. It's just that it's against us. It's all so fucking predictable and boring that these days there's still the anti-Arsenal bias in every media outlet. Anyone with half a brain and no need to be an attention-seeking twat, has said it's a foul and offside. As always, just wait until it happens to England in a major tournament and then they'll all change their tune.
I love this "he was already bending down" shit - like bending down means the opponent is exempt from committing a foul FFS! I'd love to see where that is written into any law of the game. If I'd known that I'd have shoved every *word censored* over who was attempting a diving header when I played against them, and held that up as some sort of rule. Remember lads, if someone's slightly bent down you can jump all over them to your heart's content.....said no ref ever in their pre-match brief
Just abandon the whole thing, go back to a tape for a crossbar, blow up a pig's bladder tied up with a shoelace and be done with it - then sit back and watch every other league in the world and international competition pass without controversy and still say its a shit idea! A "Little Englander" mindset if ever I saw it, and anybody who wants rid of it loses any right to moan about clear offsides, penalties not given or red cards ever again
Fuck the FA and the Premier League - a massive pair of c.unt run organisations
There was list of the 5 on twitter earlier,but I wasn't really paying attention so i can't remember all 5 ,but 2 of them were Rob Green ex West Ham GK I think and Stephen Reid ex Irish international,not sure how legit the list was as Reid is a 1st team coach at forest,wouldn't have thought that someone currently involved with a PL club could be on an independent panel.
Located the tweet with the names ,not sure if the list is correct though
They are -
Steven Reid
Rob Green
Karen Carney
Jon Walters
Terry Burton
That has to be a bu!!shit list - there is no referee/pgmol representative there for starters
The other question has to be - who picks the panel ?
Who has supreme executive power, akin to being mod on here ?
I love this "he was already bending down" shit - like bending down means the opponent is exempt from committing a foul FFS! I'd love to see where that is written into any law of the game. If I'd known that I'd have shoved every *word censored* over who was attempting a diving header when I played against them, and held that up as some sort of rule. Remember lads, if someone's slightly bent down you can jump all over them to your heart's content.....said no ref ever in their pre-match brief
Just abandon the whole thing, go back to a tape for a crossbar, blow up a pig's bladder tied up with a shoelace and be done with it - then sit back and watch every other league in the world and international competition pass without controversy and still say its a shit idea! A "Little Englander" mindset if ever I saw it, and anybody who wants rid of it loses any right to moan about clear offsides, penalties not given or red cards ever again
Fuck the FA and the Premier League - a massive pair of c.unt run organisations
Agreed. We could all have made it pro if we had only known those obscure laws of the game when we were playing, that it’s all fine and dandy to push someone over as long as they’ve “made an action” towards the ball and sure why not give them a forearm to the head for good measure while you’re at it (just make sure to not to use your elbow)
I actually don’t know what’s worse now - the bullshit decisions on the night or the bat shit insane justification of it afterwards
A few things to mention straight away. Firstly, they make no effort to find an angle to show whether the ball is in or out and it is clearly out because when they go a few frames forward, it's clearly moved on to the line so it must have been out before. Then, they notice that there has been a push on Gabriel but not enough if a push. So they've come up with a brand new law there. Nothing in the laws about how strong a push has to be. They've just decided that it's not enough of a push to push Gabriel forward. That's not in the fucking laws, you incompetent cúnts. It's a fucking push and you've admitted seeing it, so stop there because it's a foul. Then, fucking hell, the mess of that offside. Fucking fuck me. They make an effort to find the exact moment that Joelinton makes contact with the ball, which then shows the other one clearly offside but then claim that they can't be sure of the point of contact despite the frame showing exactly that. They fucking freeze it and move it around and it's the same fucking moment but for some reason claim that they can't tell when the contact was made. And then to top it all off, in yet another display of complete and utter fucking incompetence, one of the silly pricks claims he's clearly onside and doesn't know the fucking laws of the game when there is one defender behind the goalkeeper. Fucking hell. They don't know the fucking laws of the game and fucking hell, there are three, if not, four- including a handball which they just dismiss without even looking at- reasons to disallow the goal. It's nothing but incompetence and cheating. They wanted to give that goal and had to find reasons to dismiss any evidence showing that they had to rule it out. And finally, at 1:46, does someone, possibly the referee shout out something along the lines of " Longy, think about what your putting your tits on?" Fucking hell, it's all a complete fucking disgrace.
A few things to mention straight away. Firstly, they make no effort to find an angle to show whether the ball is in or out and it is clearly out because when they go a few frames forward, it's clearly moved on to the line so it must have been out before. Then, they notice that there has been a push on Gabriel but not enough if a push. So they've come up with a brand new law there. Nothing in the laws about how strong a push has to be. They've just decided that it's not enough of a push to push Gabriel forward. That's not in the fucking laws, you incompetent cúnts. It's a fucking push and you've admitted seeing it, so stop there because it's a foul. Then, fucking hell, the mess of that offside. Fucking fuck me. They make an effort to find the exact moment that Joelinton makes contact with the ball, which then shows the other one clearly offside but then claim that they can't be sure of the point of contact despite the frame showing exactly that. They fucking freeze it and move it around and it's the same fucking moment but for some reason claim that they can't tell when the contact was made. And then to top it all off, in yet another display of complete and utter fucking incompetence, one of the silly pricks claims he's clearly onside and doesn't know the fucking laws of the game when there is one defender behind the goalkeeper. Fucking hell. They don't know the fucking laws of the game and fucking hell, there are three, if not, four- including a handball which they just dismiss without even looking at- reasons to disallow the goal. It's nothing but incompetence and cheating. They wanted to give that goal and had to find reasons to dismiss any evidence showing that they had to rule it out. And finally, at 1:46, does someone, possibly the referee shout out something along the lines of " Longy, think about what your putting your tits on?" Fucking hell, it's all a complete fucking disgrace.
Clearly stated a 2 hand push on Gabriel, but apparently “ not enough to make him fly forward “ is t that exactly what a push does ?
They give whatever they want, and then find a reason to justify it, which differs depending on which teams are affected.
Howard Webb is like the BBC justifying jimmy savilles behaviour,he knows they’ve fucked up but talks utter bollocks as he wriggles out of it,
You could take the fucking awful decisions if,and it’s a huge if,you saw them given in other games,but we all know we won’t
I said all along that the minute el basque opened his mouth to have a pop at the incompetent c.unts, was the moment all hope of an honest investigation ended - personally I would rather el basque had his pop at them cos another hollow example means fcuk all and does fcuk all to change what has happened and what will continue to happen. Some of you will lament the fact that the PGMOL havent come out and admitted their fcuk up, but I dont need them to tell me they fcuked up cos the world and its mother knows it anyway
You’re just scumbags. Always have been. Trawl through a load of messages until you find a couple of negative ones and then create an article. Most people thought the show was insightful and educational. Which is our aim.
The above was tweeted by Michael Owen ,after he came under a barrage of friendly tweets from some other people on twitter.
from some other people on twitter.