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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
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9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
28
27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
45
44%
 
Total votes: 102

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Aaaah Ha! Found something (on The Athletic) don't know how credible this is but there is a Photo of him 'signing' a piece of paper...in April 2022


https://theathletic.com/3500077/2022/04 ... mmer-2025/#


Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has signed a new contract at the Premier League club until summer 2025.

Arteta’s previous deal, signed when he joined the club in December 2019, ran out next summer.

The 40-year-old replaced Unai Emery at Arsenal, taking a senior managerial role for the first time in his career.

He said: “I’m excited, grateful and really, really happy today.

“When I spoke to Josh (Kroenke) he could see the club at the same point and he wanted to take the club the way I wanted to do it. So everything that he’s said, and that Stan has said when I’ve been together with both of them, they’ve always delivered.

“We want to take the club to the next level and to compete really with the top teams. In order to do that, we have to be playing in the Champions League. We have to be able to evolve the team, improve our players, improve all departments, generate even more connection with our fans, improve the atmosphere at the Emirates, be able to recruit top, top talent and the best people for this club to drive this project to that level.”

Arsenal Women manager Jonas Eidevall has also penned a new contract, which will run until the end of the 2023-24 season.

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:48 pm
Aaaah Ha! Found something (on The Athletic) don't know how credible this is but there is a Photo of him 'signing' a piece of paper...in April 2022


https://theathletic.com/3500077/2022/04 ... mmer-2025/#


Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has signed a new contract at the Premier League club until summer 2025.

Arteta’s previous deal, signed when he joined the club in December 2019, ran out next summer.

The 40-year-old replaced Unai Emery at Arsenal, taking a senior managerial role for the first time in his career.

He said: “I’m excited, grateful and really, really happy today.

“When I spoke to Josh (Kroenke) he could see the club at the same point and he wanted to take the club the way I wanted to do it. So everything that he’s said, and that Stan has said when I’ve been together with both of them, they’ve always delivered.

“We want to take the club to the next level and to compete really with the top teams. In order to do that, we have to be playing in the Champions League. We have to be able to evolve the team, improve our players, improve all departments, generate even more connection with our fans, improve the atmosphere at the Emirates, be able to recruit top, top talent and the best people for this club to drive this project to that level.”

Arsenal Women manager Jonas Eidevall has also penned a new contract, which will run until the end of the 2023-24 season.

I think this refers to his current deal OB. The one you mentioned earlier runs to 2027.

As you said, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until it’s announced. I fear he’s here for a long while yet….at least another 2-3 yrs regardless of results. He’ll only be under threat if we drop out of the CL, which is unlikely given it’s now top 5.

It’s gonna feel like Wenger never left.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:48 pm
Aaaah Ha! Found something (on The Athletic) don't know how credible this is but there is a Photo of him 'signing' a piece of paper...in April 2022


https://theathletic.com/3500077/2022/04 ... mmer-2025/#


Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has signed a new contract at the Premier League club until summer 2025.

Arteta’s previous deal, signed when he joined the club in December 2019, ran out next summer.

The 40-year-old replaced Unai Emery at Arsenal, taking a senior managerial role for the first time in his career.

He said: “I’m excited, grateful and really, really happy today.

“When I spoke to Josh (Kroenke) he could see the club at the same point and he wanted to take the club the way I wanted to do it. So everything that he’s said, and that Stan has said when I’ve been together with both of them, they’ve always delivered.

“We want to take the club to the next level and to compete really with the top teams. In order to do that, we have to be playing in the Champions League. We have to be able to evolve the team, improve our players, improve all departments, generate even more connection with our fans, improve the atmosphere at the Emirates, be able to recruit top, top talent and the best people for this club to drive this project to that level.”

Arsenal Women manager Jonas Eidevall has also penned a new contract, which will run until the end of the 2023-24 season.

I think this refers to his current deal OB. The one you mentioned earlier runs to 2027.

As you said, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until it’s announced. I fear he’s here for a long while yet….at least another 2-3 yrs regardless of results. He’ll only be under threat if we drop out of the CL, which is unlikely given it’s now top 5.

It’s gonna feel like Wenger never left.



With the red mancs and geordies finishing bottom of their champs league groups that 5th place champs league spot is no longer guaranteed I THINK

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augie wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:48 pm
Aaaah Ha! Found something (on The Athletic) don't know how credible this is but there is a Photo of him 'signing' a piece of paper...in April 2022


https://theathletic.com/3500077/2022/04 ... mmer-2025/#


Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has signed a new contract at the Premier League club until summer 2025.

Arteta’s previous deal, signed when he joined the club in December 2019, ran out next summer.

The 40-year-old replaced Unai Emery at Arsenal, taking a senior managerial role for the first time in his career.

He said: “I’m excited, grateful and really, really happy today.

“When I spoke to Josh (Kroenke) he could see the club at the same point and he wanted to take the club the way I wanted to do it. So everything that he’s said, and that Stan has said when I’ve been together with both of them, they’ve always delivered.

“We want to take the club to the next level and to compete really with the top teams. In order to do that, we have to be playing in the Champions League. We have to be able to evolve the team, improve our players, improve all departments, generate even more connection with our fans, improve the atmosphere at the Emirates, be able to recruit top, top talent and the best people for this club to drive this project to that level.”

Arsenal Women manager Jonas Eidevall has also penned a new contract, which will run until the end of the 2023-24 season.

I think this refers to his current deal OB. The one you mentioned earlier runs to 2027.

As you said, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until it’s announced. I fear he’s here for a long while yet….at least another 2-3 yrs regardless of results. He’ll only be under threat if we drop out of the CL, which is unlikely given it’s now top 5.

It’s gonna feel like Wenger never left.



With the red mancs and geordies finishing bottom of their champs league groups that 5th place champs league spot is no longer guaranteed I THINK

Yep will all depend on far we progress as with the Spanish / Italians and who ever else is in the mix for the extra place. Think it also takes into account the Europa placings which equals points

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Stuart L (2) wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:45 pm
augie wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:48 pm
Aaaah Ha! Found something (on The Athletic) don't know how credible this is but there is a Photo of him 'signing' a piece of paper...in April 2022


https://theathletic.com/3500077/2022/04 ... mmer-2025/#


Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has signed a new contract at the Premier League club until summer 2025.

Arteta’s previous deal, signed when he joined the club in December 2019, ran out next summer.

The 40-year-old replaced Unai Emery at Arsenal, taking a senior managerial role for the first time in his career.

He said: “I’m excited, grateful and really, really happy today.

“When I spoke to Josh (Kroenke) he could see the club at the same point and he wanted to take the club the way I wanted to do it. So everything that he’s said, and that Stan has said when I’ve been together with both of them, they’ve always delivered.

“We want to take the club to the next level and to compete really with the top teams. In order to do that, we have to be playing in the Champions League. We have to be able to evolve the team, improve our players, improve all departments, generate even more connection with our fans, improve the atmosphere at the Emirates, be able to recruit top, top talent and the best people for this club to drive this project to that level.”

Arsenal Women manager Jonas Eidevall has also penned a new contract, which will run until the end of the 2023-24 season.

I think this refers to his current deal OB. The one you mentioned earlier runs to 2027.

As you said, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until it’s announced. I fear he’s here for a long while yet….at least another 2-3 yrs regardless of results. He’ll only be under threat if we drop out of the CL, which is unlikely given it’s now top 5.

It’s gonna feel like Wenger never left.



With the red mancs and geordies finishing bottom of their champs league groups that 5th place champs league spot is no longer guaranteed I THINK

Yep will all depend on far we progress as with the Spanish / Italians and who ever else is in the mix for the extra place. Think it also takes into account the Europa placings which equals points

Ah, I see, thanks fellas. I haven't got a fucking clue how it operates!

Even if it's top 4, it looks like the battle for 3rd and 4th will be us, scum and Villa, so we ought to make it. Mind you, I certainly wouldn't put any money on us. Lose tomorrow and we could implode.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm
Stuart L (2) wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:45 pm
augie wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:48 pm
Aaaah Ha! Found something (on The Athletic) don't know how credible this is but there is a Photo of him 'signing' a piece of paper...in April 2022


https://theathletic.com/3500077/2022/04 ... mmer-2025/#


Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has signed a new contract at the Premier League club until summer 2025.

Arteta’s previous deal, signed when he joined the club in December 2019, ran out next summer.

The 40-year-old replaced Unai Emery at Arsenal, taking a senior managerial role for the first time in his career.

He said: “I’m excited, grateful and really, really happy today.

“When I spoke to Josh (Kroenke) he could see the club at the same point and he wanted to take the club the way I wanted to do it. So everything that he’s said, and that Stan has said when I’ve been together with both of them, they’ve always delivered.

“We want to take the club to the next level and to compete really with the top teams. In order to do that, we have to be playing in the Champions League. We have to be able to evolve the team, improve our players, improve all departments, generate even more connection with our fans, improve the atmosphere at the Emirates, be able to recruit top, top talent and the best people for this club to drive this project to that level.”

Arsenal Women manager Jonas Eidevall has also penned a new contract, which will run until the end of the 2023-24 season.

I think this refers to his current deal OB. The one you mentioned earlier runs to 2027.

As you said, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until it’s announced. I fear he’s here for a long while yet….at least another 2-3 yrs regardless of results. He’ll only be under threat if we drop out of the CL, which is unlikely given it’s now top 5.

It’s gonna feel like Wenger never left.



With the red mancs and geordies finishing bottom of their champs league groups that 5th place champs league spot is no longer guaranteed I THINK

Yep will all depend on far we progress as with the Spanish / Italians and who ever else is in the mix for the extra place. Think it also takes into account the Europa placings which equals points

Ah, I see, thanks fellas. I haven't got a fucking clue how it operates!
That's two of us then! :lol: :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:02 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm
Stuart L (2) wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:45 pm
augie wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm



I think this refers to his current deal OB. The one you mentioned earlier runs to 2027.

As you said, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until it’s announced. I fear he’s here for a long while yet….at least another 2-3 yrs regardless of results. He’ll only be under threat if we drop out of the CL, which is unlikely given it’s now top 5.

It’s gonna feel like Wenger never left.



With the red mancs and geordies finishing bottom of their champs league groups that 5th place champs league spot is no longer guaranteed I THINK

Yep will all depend on far we progress as with the Spanish / Italians and who ever else is in the mix for the extra place. Think it also takes into account the Europa placings which equals points

Ah, I see, thanks fellas. I haven't got a fucking clue how it operates!
That's two of us then! :lol: :wink:

:lol: :lol: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Remember when you’re young and you’d feel that not knowing stuff would raise questions about how much of a football man you were.

Well, in my book, not knowing this mad fucking shit means you really are a football man. Game’s gone fucking nuts.

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The format for the Champions League next season is horrific- hopefully it doesn’t last too long

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Mikel Arteta says Arsenal will not win the Premier League this season if the Gunners do not improve in both boxes
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... both-boxes

Basically what he's saying is we're shit. We all know this and are eagerly waiting to see what he does about it.

I'm stating what he's said here and not having a pop at him. I like Arteta and support what he's doing.

Many of you will disagree with whatever substitution he makes or whatever team he fields, but you make the same criticism for any manager we have (just look at the past posts).

C'mon Mikel, you've done a good job so far, it's time to get even better.

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Midz wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:54 am
Mikel Arteta says Arsenal will not win the Premier League this season if the Gunners do not improve in both boxes
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... both-boxes

Basically what he's saying is we're shit. We all know this and are eagerly waiting to see what he does about it.

I'm stating what he's said here and not having a pop at him. I like Arteta and support what he's doing.

Many of you will disagree with whatever substitution he makes or whatever team he fields, but you make the same criticism for any manager we have (just look at the past posts).

C'mon Mikel, you've done a good job so far, it's time to get even better.

Mkll is properly becoming Wenger now. Nonsense comments telling us it was all rather good really and grabbing hold of the 30 shots and 77 touches in the opposition box, as though we can take a positive out of it.

Well, I'm amazed there were 30 shots, because most must have been instantly forgettable. Hard to think of an effort that seriously tested their keeper...there was a first half save from a Saka header, but even that was straight at him. Other than that, I can't recall a single save that was anything other than routine.

Lego Head then makes this comment

"it's the final thing, the final touch, the final touch that puts the ball in the back of the net or not. That's what we need."

So....what we need is a fucking striker then, eh Mikel?!! We've all known this for 18 months or more. He ignored the fact last summer, let's see what he does in January. Are there any more City or Chelsea duds he can spend bundles on? How about that bloke Jackson at the chavs, he's fucking useless.

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Got this from Transfer Market
TRANSFER ACTIVITY
Purchased players: 29 how many have been a success?
Players with fee: 25
Transfer expenditure: €688,240,000
Fee per player: €27,529,600

I would be hesitant to give him any more.

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Sack that cone boy tea maker, thow the cock in the Thames

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He’s taken us as far as he possibly can. He’s not good enough to push us to the next level. He MUST go.

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Midz wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:54 am
Mikel Arteta says Arsenal will not win the Premier League this season if the Gunners do not improve in both boxes
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... both-boxes

Basically what he's saying is we're shit. We all know this and are eagerly waiting to see what he does about it.

I'm stating what he's said here and not having a pop at him. I like Arteta and support what he's doing.

Many of you will disagree with whatever substitution he makes or whatever team he fields, but you make the same criticism for any manager we have (just look at the past posts).

C'mon Mikel, you've done a good job so far, it's time to get even better.
Sadly not gonna age well.

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We're at the start of the structural and institutional collapse and it will be a Wanker style collapse which happens slowly at first, with more and more defeats and performances like today. There will be the usual lack of consequences for under-performing players who will start every game until at least a year after they should have been dropped, we'll see the odd decent performance against teams like Manure, chavs, scum and dippers but will be pulled apart time and again by City or dippers away. We'll see blindly obvious gaps in the squad ignored for years in the transfer market whilst average then less than average and then downright poor signings come in on long contracts as the manager desperately tries to buy their loyalty and then players like Saliba demanding moves to Spain. Arteta will keep getting contract extensions because we are "very close" to winning the league and just need a "bit longer".Then, the manager will have the usual Wankereque tantrum when it's clear he's to blame and there's nowhere left to hide and he'll start telling us how hard it is to compete with Man City and we're all a bunch of ungrateful cúnts or whatever. This is just the start. It's all too predictable.

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