Fulham Fartpipes A Sun 31st Dec KO 2pm

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Re: Fulham Fartpipes A Sun 31st Dec KO 2pm

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falkirk goon wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:47 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:10 am
Stuart L (2) wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:14 am
rodders999 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:15 pm
We've scored 3 goals from 81 attempts over the last 4 games. Dreadful.

To make matters worse we’ve conceded eight goals from the last 15 shots on target faced in the league.

So creating shit loads of chances but failing to put the ball in the net up one end while conceding over 50% of the shots on target down the other.

Not good.

You would hope that those stats would have to right themselves sooner rather than later but we seem extremely adept at squandering loads of chances and then conceding the first time the opposition cross the half way line.


Does this not also counter prove our “process” of controlling the game with 1,000 passes while our opponents get 25-30% possession yet manage to score ?

No cutting edge blunts even the best made sword

( old Suffolk proverb)

:rubchin: Good point (no pun intended) Stuart, I recall researching 'sayings' from various parts of our Beloved Briton when studying at Uni and recall one particular saying (also with its roots in Suffolk) that is difficult to forget:

"Grannies Bloomers Smell Of Cheese and Haddock"

Not quite sure what it means but it does have a certain recency to it even though it is reported to be some hundreds of year old.
Translated into Jockaneese that is "Grans fannys fucking howlin of cheese n fish" :shock: :lol:
:coffeespit:

I expect Wayne Rooney would have an informed opinion :shock: :shock:

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Re: Fulham Fartpipes A Sun 31st Dec KO 2pm

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Nick Nack wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:22 am
falkirk goon wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:47 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:10 am
Stuart L (2) wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:14 am
rodders999 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:15 pm
We've scored 3 goals from 81 attempts over the last 4 games. Dreadful.

To make matters worse we’ve conceded eight goals from the last 15 shots on target faced in the league.

So creating shit loads of chances but failing to put the ball in the net up one end while conceding over 50% of the shots on target down the other.

Not good.

You would hope that those stats would have to right themselves sooner rather than later but we seem extremely adept at squandering loads of chances and then conceding the first time the opposition cross the half way line.


Does this not also counter prove our “process” of controlling the game with 1,000 passes while our opponents get 25-30% possession yet manage to score ?

No cutting edge blunts even the best made sword

( old Suffolk proverb)

:rubchin: Good point (no pun intended) Stuart, I recall researching 'sayings' from various parts of our Beloved Briton when studying at Uni and recall one particular saying (also with its roots in Suffolk) that is difficult to forget:

"Grannies Bloomers Smell Of Cheese and Haddock"

Not quite sure what it means but it does have a certain recency to it even though it is reported to be some hundreds of year old.
Translated into Jockaneese that is "Grans fannys fucking howlin of cheese n fish" :shock: :lol:
:coffeespit:

I expect Wayne Rooney would have an informed opinion :shock: :shock:
That and Mobile phones being left in dodgy places.

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Takehiro Tomiyasu is with the Arsenal squad today

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Arsenal Starting XI: Raya; White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior; Rice, Havertz, Odegaard; Saka, Nketiah, Martinelli

Subs: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Cedric, Jorginho, Elneny, Smith Rowe, Trossard, Nelson, Jesus

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:59 pm
Arsenal Starting XI: Raya; White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior; Rice, Havertz, Odegaard; Saka, Nketiah, Martinelli

Subs: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Cedric, Jorginho, Elneny, Smith Rowe, Trossard, Nelson, Jesus
Raya (not up to it)
White (more into his looks, needs to be moved on)
Saliba (will be world class, just not with us),
Gabriel (decent journeyman pro with a mistake in him),
Kiwior (a bit early to tell but doesnt look solid)
Rice (most likely starting to regret his move looking aroud him),
Havertz (chavs didnt want him so why should we),
Odegaard (utter gash, full of it against lesser players, invisible when it counts)
Saka (Knackerd and battered)
Nketiah (Champo at best)
Martinelli(knackered and well of form)

So there you have it, couple all that with legoheads inability to prepare his teams for big nay any games and with his non existent in game management and thats all you need to know to answer why another title challange hit the bricks by January.

On paper this is a doddle......lets see if they make hard work of it.

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:59 pm
Arsenal Starting XI: Raya; White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior; Rice, Havertz, Odegaard; Saka, Nketiah, Martinelli

Subs: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Cedric, Jorginho, Elneny, Smith Rowe, Trossard, Nelson, Jesus


A few relevant questions -

1. Jorginho was supposedly starting against the shammers but got injured in warm up but is fit enough to be on bench today - how trivial must that injury have been ?

2. Every media outlet is reporting that cedric is on the departure list for this upcoming transfer window - why bother putting him on bench at all and especially when we have another full back on the bench already ?? Surely he may as well bring one of these talented youngsters into the match day squad for a bit of experience ? Where is the plan here if you are including a guy on way out the door ?

3. It seems that odeargod and saka in particular (and martinelli to lesser extent) suffer no consequences for continued shit performances - where is the incentive/motivation to improve if you continue to be selected regardless, and your wages dont take a hit either ? It is hard enough to motivate guys being paid a fortune regardless, but if you are afraid to drop them as well then you may as well throw in the towel imo

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:59 pm
Arsenal Starting XI: Raya; White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior; Rice, Havertz, Odegaard; Saka, Nketiah, Martinelli

Subs: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Cedric, Jorginho, Elneny, Smith Rowe, Trossard, Nelson, Jesus
Nketiah's last away league goal was at Brighton last New year's Eve yet he's somehow still at the club - and starting :rubchin:

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Zinchenko misses out on today's squad due to a slight calf issue.

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:24 pm
Zinchenko misses out on today's squad due to a slight calf issue.
BS he’s been dropped same as Jesus - they were 2 of our 3 worst players the other night, Martinelli was the 3rd and can count himself extremely lucky he wasn’t jettisoned too. Need to repay us today after weeks of playing like the drizzling shits.

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Watch Iwobi and Willian become prime Messi and Ronaldo today

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rodders999 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:29 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:24 pm
Zinchenko misses out on today's squad due to a slight calf issue.
BS he’s been dropped same as Jesus - they were 2 of our 3 worst players the other night (martinelli was 3rd), and can count himself extremely lucky he wasn’t jettisoned too. Need to repay us today after weeks of playing like the drizzling shits.


And you can add odeargod to that list too - wont release the ball early, shirks physical challenges, and too many flicks going fcuking nowhere :cussing: :cussing: :cussing:

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Don’t see us scoring today, and nothing on the bench to change that either.

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Kingralph wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:49 pm
Don’t see us scoring today, and nothing on the bench to change that either.
It’ll be interesting to see how they react if we do go behind,more huff and puff tippy tappy I expect,

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robbo10 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:37 pm
Watch Iwobi and Willian become prime Messi and Ronaldo today
Iwobi has been Not Good for ages, but in the last few games when I have seen him play (MOTD etc) H has been Decent.

As others have said this is a MUST Win.


#COYG :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Re: Fulham Fartpipes A Sun 31st Dec KO 2pm

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Odegaard over elaborated the shit out things the other night for sure Augie but he was still the player most likely to create something for us out there as Saka and especially Martinelli were so poor.

The 3 I mentioned in my first post were the 4 standouts that deserved to be dropped today, 2 were and hopefully the other one recognises he has to produce the goods today.

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