Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[Retro Gunner]

Guess we are just going to play the long game....won't be long until klopp and pep leave and that will leave cement hair as the most experienced of the top four and all our young players will be approaching their prime 27-29 years

Cement hair Even when the football side of things is going to shite this place can still make you smile Hats off to you mate and may I also say Linighans There is a fucking qualiteee handle

Probably need to find a balance between both posts. Bit harsh to execute Arteta for not being able to beat Klopp or Pep to a title. There isnt anyone to get who would rival either Pep or Klopp. Ancelotti would be a worse fit for our club than Emery was, plus he isnt available. I keep hearing De Zerbi names being dropped, but I dont thin De Zerbi is better than Arteta, and he would be another Graham Potter where he was made to look good by Brightons infrastructure.

But then Arteta cant be allowed to get comfortable. But there is no advantage to be gained in moving Arteta on.

And we're back to the good old Wenger days

Yep, it reads like a post from the AKB at any time between 2010-2018. And completely misses the point.

But, but, who is available that could do a better job? Give him a chance. It's the board's fault. How do you expect him to compete with financially doped clubs? We got more points in the calendar year than any other club.

Fuck me, that's a few of the old lines coming back without giving it any thought.

Anyway, can't we bring Uncle Arsene back??

The trouble is, I have no doubt that there's still plenty of cretins amongst our support that would welcome the idea.

[nut flush gooner]

Cement hair Even when the football side of things is going to shite this place can still make you smile Hats off to you mate and may I also say Linighans There is a fucking qualiteee handle

Probably need to find a balance between both posts. Bit harsh to execute Arteta for not being able to beat Klopp or Pep to a title. There isnt anyone to get who would rival either Pep or Klopp. Ancelotti would be a worse fit for our club than Emery was, plus he isnt available. I keep hearing De Zerbi names being dropped, but I dont thin De Zerbi is better than Arteta, and he would be another Graham Potter where he was made to look good by Brightons infrastructure.

But then Arteta cant be allowed to get comfortable. But there is no advantage to be gained in moving Arteta on.

And we're back to the good old Wenger days

Yep, it reads like a post from the AKB at any time between 2010-2018. And completely misses the point.

But, but, who is available that could do a better job? Give him a chance. It's the board's fault. How do you expect him to compete with financially doped clubs? We got more points in the calendar year than any other club.

Fuck me, that's a few of the old lines coming back without giving it any thought.

Anyway, can't we bring Uncle Arsene back??

The trouble is, I have no doubt that there's still plenty of cretins amongst our support that would welcome the idea.

Agreed, easy to sack the manager but who is there available that could take the club to the next level. No matter what you say about Arteta there has been progression over the last 3/4 years. Shit happens, other clubs get results like we have last two games, and yet our fanbase goes into meltdown.

[augie]

Progression over the last 3-4 years ? In his first two seasons el basque finished EIGHTH !!! Last season when our rivals collapsed we had a good run until yet again him and his team collapsed when the pressure came on. He won a covid fa cup and has been shit in cup competitions since. In emery's last season we finished 1pt off top 4 (after bottling the run in) and reached european final (and bottled the second half of that final). Considering he has spent £700m in FOUR YEARS, has the "improvement" justified the expenditure ?

[BFG4]

There is something psychological about the way some of our fanbase attaches hero worship to both the players and manager. Alot of our players are extremely overrated(Odegaard one example) and the manager is seen as a footballing genius when in reality after 4 years and a huge amount spent, the game plan revolves around Saka and Martinelli almost exclusively. A proper manager would have been proactive and seen the amount of dodgy performances this season and come up with something different. A proper manager would have addressed the need for a proper striker in the summer but instead this arrogant twat looked at a broken Havertz and thought "il fix him" all while paying 65 million. If we were a serious club his time would be up but we aren't so the trainee can run the company a bit longer

[Retro Gunner]

Probably need to find a balance between both posts. Bit harsh to execute Arteta for not being able to beat Klopp or Pep to a title. There isnt anyone to get who would rival either Pep or Klopp. Ancelotti would be a worse fit for our club than Emery was, plus he isnt available. I keep hearing De Zerbi names being dropped, but I dont thin De Zerbi is better than Arteta, and he would be another Graham Potter where he was made to look good by Brightons infrastructure.

But then Arteta cant be allowed to get comfortable. But there is no advantage to be gained in moving Arteta on.

And we're back to the good old Wenger days

Yep, it reads like a post from the AKB at any time between 2010-2018. And completely misses the point.

But, but, who is available that could do a better job? Give him a chance. It's the board's fault. How do you expect him to compete with financially doped clubs? We got more points in the calendar year than any other club.

Fuck me, that's a few of the old lines coming back without giving it any thought.

Anyway, can't we bring Uncle Arsene back??

The trouble is, I have no doubt that there's still plenty of cretins amongst our support that would welcome the idea.

Agreed, easy to sack the manager but who is there available that could take the club to the next level. No matter what you say about Arteta there has been progression over the last 3/4 years. Shit happens, other clubs get results like we have last two games, and yet our fanbase goes into meltdown.

[Retro Gunner]

There is something psychological about the way some of our fanbase attaches hero worship to both the players and manager. Alot of our players are extremely overrated(Odegaard one example) and the manager is seen as a footballing genius when in reality after 4 years and a huge amount spent, the game plan revolves around Saka and Martinelli almost exclusively. A proper manager would have been proactive and seen the amount of dodgy performances this season and come up with something different. A proper manager would have addressed the need for a proper striker in the summer but instead this arrogant twat looked at a broken Havertz and thought "il fix him" all while paying 65 million. If we were a serious club his time would be up but we aren't so the trainee can run the company a bit longer

Nail on the head BFG.

[the playing mantis]

And we're back to the good old Wenger days

Yep, it reads like a post from the AKB at any time between 2010-2018. And completely misses the point.

But, but, who is available that could do a better job? Give him a chance. It's the board's fault. How do you expect him to compete with financially doped clubs? We got more points in the calendar year than any other club.

Fuck me, that's a few of the old lines coming back without giving it any thought.

Anyway, can't we bring Uncle Arsene back??

The trouble is, I have no doubt that there's still plenty of cretins amongst our support that would welcome the idea.

Agreed, easy to sack the manager but who is there available that could take the club to the next level. No matter what you say about Arteta there has been progression over the last 3/4 years. Shit happens, other clubs get results like we have last two games, and yet our fanbase goes into meltdown.

I concur with the lols and



But actually don't knock it Retro, we should be honored le Grove graces us with his presence on here!



teams not targeting zinny as he's such a great player (that aged well Nutty ), no one better than Tets, carefully what you wish for!! Etc etc. it's almost as if the club pay for such propaganda or its trolling as those who have any clue about the game in the comments on le grove point out.

As ever with the typical akb, akb still rings btw, they always use the 2 league games or last league game to beat any negativity with... No we have lost our shit over how poor we have been this season and these results have been long overdue...yes we were top somehow bit we have been poor most of the season and in a compleltey false position and the league is so weak that us, scum and villa have been right up the top for spells. All very mediocre teams.

Le grove/Nutty we haven't lost our shit over the last 2 games. We have all seen these results coming for a while if you haven't you have had your head in the sand or beleive the garbage that certain superfans who claim to have a superior understanding of the game spout about it all being some master plan, and klive will go bang soon etc etc...

Happy new year everyone!

[augie]

I reckon old hairy hands is spot on here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/footba ... 6ab3&ei=56


Basically he is slating el basque for playing rice too deep and only playing sidewards passes

[falkirk goon]

I reckon old hairy hands is spot on here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/footba ... 6ab3&ei=56


Basically he is slating el basque for playing rice too deep and only playing sidewards passes

I take it that Mini me means mini Wenger

[Retro Gunner]

I reckon old hairy hands is spot on here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/footba ... 6ab3&ei=56


Basically he is slating el basque for playing rice too deep and only playing sidewards passes

I take it that Mini me means mini Wenger

I assumed the same thing Falky. If that's what he means, he's not wrong is he?

It would still never surprise me if he talks to the French Fraud regularly and takes advice from him. This team is looking more and more like a post 2006 Wenger outfit. I know Arteta was a favourite of his, but no Arsenal manager should listen to the old fucker, because the last thing he'd want is someone achieving the things that he failed to achieve for the last 14 years of his reign....and i do mean reign. Maybe it's irrational, but I'm so bitter about the Old Fraud, that I wouldn't put it past him to deliberately fuck things up. Mind you, he'd fuck things up even if he was genuinely trying to help.

I really need to seek help with my Wenger "issues".

[augie]

I reckon old hairy hands is spot on here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/footba ... 6ab3&ei=56


Basically he is slating el basque for playing rice too deep and only playing sidewards passes

I take it that Mini me means mini Wenger

I assumed it meant mini pep

[Retro Gunner]

I reckon old hairy hands is spot on here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/footba ... 6ab3&ei=56


Basically he is slating el basque for playing rice too deep and only playing sidewards passes

I take it that Mini me means mini Wenger

I assumed it meant mini pep

Ah, of course. I'm sure you're right augie. The idea of Pep didn't even occur to me....shows how scarred by the old French fucker the likes of me and Falky are.

[augie]

I reckon old hairy hands is spot on here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/footba ... 6ab3&ei=56


Basically he is slating el basque for playing rice too deep and only playing sidewards passes

I take it that Mini me means mini Wenger

I assumed it meant mini pep

Ah, of course. I'm sure you're right augie. The idea of Pep didn't even occur to me....shows how scarred by the old French fucker the likes of me and Falky are.

You could be right - I just assumed that it was a put down of diet pep and his efforts to be like pep.

[Retro Gunner]

I reckon old hairy hands is spot on here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/footba ... 6ab3&ei=56


Basically he is slating el basque for playing rice too deep and only playing sidewards passes

I take it that Mini me means mini Wenger

I assumed it meant mini pep

Ah, of course. I'm sure you're right augie. The idea of Pep didn't even occur to me....shows how scarred by the old French fucker the likes of me and Falky are.

You could be right - I just assumed that it was a put down of diet pep and his efforts to be like pep.

I'm sure you're right and it actually makes more sense that Keys would be referencing Pep.

It could, of course, apply to either, especially seeing as Legohead is far more likely to have Wenger's post 2004 record (although I doubt he'll get anymore cup wins tbh), than even a glimmer of Pep's record, but the Pep "mini me" idea is spot on.

[augie]

I dont like championing Football 365 opinions, but hard to argue here

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/other/an ... d0c5&ei=69