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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
9
9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
28
27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
45
44%
 
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augie wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:22 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:36 pm
I do believe Arteta can win the PL or CL. "he has had 4 years and spent 700m'. Yeah, and he has turned us form banter era 8th to a team capable of winning the league. Have mistakes been made, of course. But dont try and tell me our chances of winning the league are higher under De Zerbi than Arteta.

I actually think the Arteta hate is irrational. Ill prove it........who here would want Arteta out on the condition his replacement is Graham Potter.



Again with your bu!!shit - I already pointed out to you that we finished FIFTH just 1pt off top 4 under emery the season before pep's cone boy took over - we actually finished 8th under this tool for his first two seasons in charge :roll: Fcuk all logic or facts to your arguments :evil: :oops:
Absolutely wasting your time augster. The Graham Potter nonsense in his post has me starting to think he might be a troll ffs. :lol:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:05 pm
augie wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:22 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:36 pm
I do believe Arteta can win the PL or CL. "he has had 4 years and spent 700m'. Yeah, and he has turned us form banter era 8th to a team capable of winning the league. Have mistakes been made, of course. But dont try and tell me our chances of winning the league are higher under De Zerbi than Arteta.

I actually think the Arteta hate is irrational. Ill prove it........who here would want Arteta out on the condition his replacement is Graham Potter.



Again with your bu!!shit - I already pointed out to you that we finished FIFTH just 1pt off top 4 under emery the season before pep's cone boy took over - we actually finished 8th under this tool for his first two seasons in charge :roll: Fcuk all logic or facts to your arguments :evil: :oops:
Absolutely wasting your time augster. The Graham Potter nonsense in his post has me starting to think he might be a troll ffs. :lol:


You mean this one out of Graham..., Ooops! I mean Harry Potter !?



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augie wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:22 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:36 pm
I do believe Arteta can win the PL or CL. "he has had 4 years and spent 700m'. Yeah, and he has turned us form banter era 8th to a team capable of winning the league. Have mistakes been made, of course. But dont try and tell me our chances of winning the league are higher under De Zerbi than Arteta.

I actually think the Arteta hate is irrational. Ill prove it........who here would want Arteta out on the condition his replacement is Graham Potter.



Again with your bu!!shit - I already pointed out to you that we finished FIFTH just 1pt off top 4 under emery the season before pep's cone boy took over - we actually finished 8th under this tool for his first two seasons in charge :roll: Fcuk all logic or facts to your arguments :evil: :oops:
Arteta came in halfway through the 19-20 season. Matchday 19 was first game with us, a 1-1 away draw away to Bournemouth. In the first 18 games under Emery we were in 11th position and had won 5 games in the first 18. To level all blame on Arteta for finishing 8th in the 19-20 season is disingenuous given at the halfway mark we were 11th. As for the next season, well why wouldn't we finish 8th, go and have a look at the squad we had.

Slowly but steadily all those players have been phased out and with the ones Arteta has brought in, we are suddenly talking wanting to win the PL or CL. You cant deny Arteta has raised the standards and expectations at a minimum. As for the argument, Emery didn't get the backing Arteta did. No he didnt, but he still got to sign Pepe for 72m; he also signed Torriera and Guendhouzi, basically an array of players either not good enough or with serious attitude problems we had to later pay to leave.

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 1:16 am
augie wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:22 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:36 pm
I do believe Arteta can win the PL or CL. "he has had 4 years and spent 700m'. Yeah, and he has turned us form banter era 8th to a team capable of winning the league. Have mistakes been made, of course. But dont try and tell me our chances of winning the league are higher under De Zerbi than Arteta.

I actually think the Arteta hate is irrational. Ill prove it........who here would want Arteta out on the condition his replacement is Graham Potter.



Again with your bu!!shit - I already pointed out to you that we finished FIFTH just 1pt off top 4 under emery the season before pep's cone boy took over - we actually finished 8th under this tool for his first two seasons in charge :roll: Fcuk all logic or facts to your arguments :evil: :oops:
Arteta came in halfway through the 19-20 season. Matchday 19 was first game with us, a 1-1 away draw away to Bournemouth. In the first 18 games under Emery we were in 11th position and had won 5 games in the first 18. To level all blame on Arteta for finishing 8th in the 19-20 season is disingenuous given at the halfway mark we were 11th. As for the next season, well why wouldn't we finish 8th, go and have a look at the squad we had.

Slowly but steadily all those players have been phased out and with the ones Arteta has brought in, we are suddenly talking wanting to win the PL or CL. You cant deny Arteta has raised the standards and expectations at a minimum. As for the argument, Emery didn't get the backing Arteta did. No he didnt, but he still got to sign Pepe for 72m; he also signed Torriera and Guendhouzi, basically an array of players either not good enough or with serious attitude problems we had to later pay to leave.
Raúl Sanllehí signed Pepe

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:47 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 1:16 am
augie wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:22 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:36 pm
I do believe Arteta can win the PL or CL. "he has had 4 years and spent 700m'. Yeah, and he has turned us form banter era 8th to a team capable of winning the league. Have mistakes been made, of course. But dont try and tell me our chances of winning the league are higher under De Zerbi than Arteta.

I actually think the Arteta hate is irrational. Ill prove it........who here would want Arteta out on the condition his replacement is Graham Potter.



Again with your bu!!shit - I already pointed out to you that we finished FIFTH just 1pt off top 4 under emery the season before pep's cone boy took over - we actually finished 8th under this tool for his first two seasons in charge :roll: Fcuk all logic or facts to your arguments :evil: :oops:
Arteta came in halfway through the 19-20 season. Matchday 19 was first game with us, a 1-1 away draw away to Bournemouth. In the first 18 games under Emery we were in 11th position and had won 5 games in the first 18. To level all blame on Arteta for finishing 8th in the 19-20 season is disingenuous given at the halfway mark we were 11th. As for the next season, well why wouldn't we finish 8th, go and have a look at the squad we had.

Slowly but steadily all those players have been phased out and with the ones Arteta has brought in, we are suddenly talking wanting to win the PL or CL. You cant deny Arteta has raised the standards and expectations at a minimum. As for the argument, Emery didn't get the backing Arteta did. No he didnt, but he still got to sign Pepe for 72m; he also signed Torriera and Guendhouzi, basically an array of players either not good enough or with serious attitude problems we had to later pay to leave.
Raúl Sanllehí signed Pepe
According to the Gossip & Rumours (abounding) at that time Emery wanted Dwayne Dibley from Palace, but Sanllehi wanted / recommended Pepe (whose fee was more) instead. And we all know how that turned out.

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Pepe or Havertz?

Which is the bigger waste of money?

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Mikel Arteta pledges long-term future to Arsenal - and says he can deliver next generation of success

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mcdowell42 wrote:
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Mikel Arteta pledges long-term future to Arsenal - and says he can deliver next generation of success
Gutted.

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Midz wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:41 am
Pepe or Havertz?

Which is the bigger waste of money?
I think I'd have to say Havertz. In as much as he could take a delicious Free-kick, I never once saw him Air-Kick the ball and although he wandered around in a Ganja-like-induced-haze as least you could see him; although there was no one home. Whereas Havertz is just shyte
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mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:18 pm
Mikel Arteta pledges long-term future to Arsenal - and says he can deliver next generation of success



He knows that barca were pissing themselves when they read stories about him being their next manager - not a snowballs chance in hell any big club wants him as their next manager

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The stupid prick bleating in tonight's standard about having one of the thinnest squads in the pl and not being able to sign cos of finances.


What bellend wasted 65m and 300k a week on not needed position for an absolute useless player??

Who won't blood any kids contrary to what ALL the other big 5 do. (Chavs, city, united and victims and us I mean) all blood kids bar us.

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De Zerbi rolled for 4 against Luton. Brighton goal against record is dire. Only 5 teams have conceded less goals than them.

Sacking Arteta to bring in De Zerbi is not serious. Ive always said, if you want Arteta sacked, you had better have a proper manager in mind to replace him.

God I hope Alonso goes to Real Madrid or Bayern and Liverpool nosebleed a De Zerbi appointment.

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:04 pm
De Zerbi rolled for 4 against Luton. Brighton goal against record is dire. Only 5 teams have conceded less goals than them.

Sacking Arteta to bring in De Zerbi is not serious. Ive always said, if you want Arteta sacked, you had better have a proper manager in mind to replace him.

God I hope Alonso goes to Real Madrid or Bayern and Liverpool nosebleed a De Zerbi appointment.
Firstly, are you going to post this drivel every time Brighton lose this season? If you do, then that is obviously trolling to illicit a negative response. :roll:

Secondly, who exactly said that the only option is De Zerbi? He is one option ffs.

At this moment I personally would accept the owners going out and trying to appoint any of the below named managers to replace Merkin Head. Off the top of my head:

Simeone
Allegri
Ancelotti
Inzaghi
Zidane
Löw
DeZerbi
Ilguacil

Only qualifiers I'd add are that obviously not all would be available, but that should not stop us going after them, and there is no guarantee that any of them would be hugely successful at Arsenal.

But that is the chance we take with every managerial appointment, and is not even a real concern seeing that we appointed our current manager straight from his demanding role putting out the cones at citeh. :oops:

Unfounded fear that the new manager might also fail like the current manager is the thinking of a pissboy. We don't know that before we try them.

I'd take any of the above named managers over Martinez-Lite and his shit in-game management and ego-before-club psyche dripping in snowflake generation desperation to be seen as the boy genius that he clearly isn't. :roll:

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the playing mantis wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:21 pm
The stupid prick bleating in tonight's standard about having one of the thinnest squads in the pl and not being able to sign cos of finances.


What bellend wasted 65m and 300k a week on not needed position for an absolute useless player??

Who won't blood any kids contrary to what ALL the other big 5 do. (Chavs, city, united and victims and us I mean) all blood kids bar us.
The fucking nerve of the silly cùnt. :banghead: :censored:

He has pissed over £700million up the wall and he is complaining about his squad? Who bought those fucking players? :banghead: :cussing:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:58 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:04 pm
De Zerbi rolled for 4 against Luton. Brighton goal against record is dire. Only 5 teams have conceded less goals than them.

Sacking Arteta to bring in De Zerbi is not serious. Ive always said, if you want Arteta sacked, you had better have a proper manager in mind to replace him.

God I hope Alonso goes to Real Madrid or Bayern and Liverpool nosebleed a De Zerbi appointment.
Firstly, are you going to post this drivel every time Brighton lose this season? If you do, then that is obviously trolling to illicit a negative response. :roll:

Secondly, who exactly said that the only option is De Zerbi? He is one option ffs.

At this moment I personally would accept the owners going out and trying to appoint any of the below named managers to replace Merkin Head. Off the top of my head:

Simeone
Allegri
Ancelotti
Inzaghi
Zidane
Löw
DeZerbi
Ilguacil

Only qualifiers I'd add are that obviously not all would be available, but that should not stop us going after them, and there is no guarantee that any of them would be hugely successful at Arsenal.

But that is the chance we take with every managerial appointment, and is not even a real concern seeing that we appointed our current manager straight from his demanding role putting out the cones at citeh. :oops:

Unfounded fear that the new manager might also fail like the current manager is the thinking of a pissboy. We don't know that before we try them.

I'd take any of the above named managers over Martinez-Lite and his shit in-game management and ego-before-club psyche dripping in snowflake generation desperation to be seen as the boy genius that he clearly isn't. :roll:


Like you said to me the other day, we are wasting our time replying to him :roll:

For starters, how can a slate de zerbi's defensive nous when pep's cone boy is watching our left wing getting raped on a regular basis and doing fcuk all about it ?? If GG was manager you can with justification make arguments against replacing him with a defensively suspect manager (I'm not saying that de zerbi is btw), but diet pep is clueless on the defensive side of the game - when you hear a stat about AFC conceding 7 goals in a row from first shots we faced in a game, then you can maybe think that a better keeper might sort it, but when you change the keeper and it is still happening and you wont change the defensive shape of the team either, then the responsibility has to lie with the manager. Our defensive shape is based totally around our attacking plan and that is no basis on which to build a team

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