ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[gazzatt2]

my humble opinion is ESR never kicked on from that break through half season where Saka did
even then he could only last 70 minutes as was blowing out of his arse (copywrite Rodders where is he ?)
our village man said he had a problem with fast food and many times he has looked a bit chubby
the injuries have not helped hm
for a team aiming to win the league he is not at that level
I wish him well
DB
. We were never in a bidding war with any big clubs to sign Pires, Henry, Vieira, Bergkamp, Overmars, Petit..
Bergkamp and Henry were seen as finished in Italy Overman's was seen as a gamble because of his Knee injury the 3 French amigos were relatively unknown

[DB10GOONER]

my humble opinion is ESR never kicked on from that break through half season where Saka did
even then he could only last 70 minutes as was blowing out of his arse (copywrite Rodders where is he ?)
our village man said he had a problem with fast food and many times he has looked a bit chubby
the injuries have not helped hm
for a team aiming to win the league he is not at that level
I wish him well
DB
. We were never in a bidding war with any big clubs to sign Pires, Henry, Vieira, Bergkamp, Overmars, Petit..
Bergkamp and Henry were seen as finished in Italy Overman's was seen as a gamble because of his Knee injury the 3 French amigos were relatively unknown

Only reinforces my point. How did they turn out, once given a chance and a proper run in the team?

[DB10GOONER]

Well Mikel has done it again.
Rather than rid us of the ineffective Nketia and the way past it Jesus he appears to have chosen to ditch the bright light that is Emile Smith-Rowe.
In Arteta we have the club version of Southgate. He just can't see true talent.
He has form. He only played Martinelli when he had no other options even though we could all see he was class.
Another Martinez style error and one we will regret as Emile turns into the new Cole Palmer.

I have no faith in our manager. He is clueless.
Watch Emile fly. Fulham have got a star in the making.
Well done Emile it's our loss not yours mark my words.

I will watch the Cottagers with interest this season.
Another opportunity missed by Mikel.
Thanks

Yep, a tough pill to swallow, but no surprise at all. I got some stick from one two quarters on here for saying it, but it's been obvious to me since before the end of the 21/22 season that Arteta didn't fancy him and that he'd never be a regular first choice pick no matter how well he was performing. In the first half of that season he looked a better bet than Odegaard for the number 10 position

He could be in the middle of a cracking run of form and Arteta would drop him. If he had an average game, he'd definitely be benched, but of course, Arteta doesn't apply that policy to all players. The favourites can consistently stink the place out but always get a game.

I hope the boy hasn't stayed too long and that his career has been permanently damaged. I'd like to see him reached the heights that many of us on here think he was capable of.

You're also right about Martinelli. At one point he was another that struggled to get a game and having looked a fabulous prospect under Emery only managed to become a regular under Arteta when the option was forced on him. I hate to say it, but he's regressed under Arteta and is another that would probably benefit from moving elsewhere.

It's obvious that Arteta fancies Trossard more than Martinelli and although he is a good member of the squad Martinelli has the ability to go much higher. As for ESR like everyone else I feel that we have wasted a great talent and that Fulham have had our pants down.

I'll be unhappy to see Smith Rowe go, but if no-one bigger than Fulham have come in for him maybe Arteta's not the only one who doesn't rate him as highly as we do?

Exactly this

Villa were rumoured to have wanted him last season, they finished top 4 and now have no interest

I fully expect one or two to state with all their football knowledge that Fulham are finishing above us now


It’s Fulham, not when our best players departed to City like Nasri or Utd like Van Persie, or Barca like Fabregas (and Song)

I hope he plays regularly, he’s a good player, when fit, and deserves a career.
If he had scored the goal Vieira scored there would have been a tidal wave of - “see, he must play” from all the told you so’s.

Fuck me. Can someone send Stu a chip for his other shoulder please? Just for balance.

But don't imply that The Lord God Arteta might have gotten something wrong!

[OneBardGooner]

[Perryashburtongroves]

It's one of those ones with ESR where you look at it and just think it's better for both the club and him to go their separate ways. He could just stay and see out a contract earning decent money and not doing very much but he's going to bring in some full on profit for the club as a home-grown player and get the chance to relaunch his career. If I look about a few years, I was hopeful he'd be the future of the club but he's drifted in and out, played here and there, been injured, looked unfit,l or just been left on the bench. The sentimental side of me wanted him to have another go, come back better and be this team's Merson or Micheal Thomas but something just hasn't worked out and sometimes that happens. There probably is a player in there and he can be a successful top flight player, one of those ones that makes a load of appearances at that level with the occasional flash of brilliance rather than anything consistently amazing.

[EC1]

ESR may actually want to leave.

He’s 23 and needs regular game time, will he get that at Arsenal, I’m not sure, in fact I doubt it.

I don’t see him playing out wide, best position is in the middle, competition at Arsenal is high. That said I think he’s a better option than Viera.

Also now there are the implications of PSR and the proceeds from ESR are pure profit. Like it or not these rules have implications.

Plus aside from a select few know one knows what the plans are in regards new signings.

[augie]

It's one of those ones with ESR where you look at it and just think it's better for both the club and him to go their separate ways. He could just stay and see out a contract earning decent money and not doing very much but he's going to bring in some full on profit for the club as a home-grown player and get the chance to relaunch his career. If I look about a few years, I was hopeful he'd be the future of the club but he's drifted in and out, played here and there, been injured, looked unfit,l or just been left on the bench. The sentimental side of me wanted him to have another go, come back better and be this team's Merson or Micheal Thomas but something just hasn't worked out and sometimes that happens. There probably is a player in there and he can be a successful top flight player, one of those ones that makes a load of appearances at that level with the occasional flash of brilliance rather than anything consistently amazing.

Its called arteta - in football all players are totally dependent on being lucky if they are playing for a manager who rates them, and clearly this isnt the case with smith-rowe so lets just call it as it is instead of beating around the bush with comments like "something hasnt worked out". I laugh when I read comments suggesting that the cone boy is right cos no top club is trying to sign him - you give any player only 5 starts in two seasons and watch how their career will stagnate too, and also let me point out that our cone boy's assessment is also what brought zinchenko, tavares, lokongo, jesus and others to the club, so is that an opinion you could bank on ? I dont fcuking think so

[Perryashburtongroves]

It's one of those ones with ESR where you look at it and just think it's better for both the club and him to go their separate ways. He could just stay and see out a contract earning decent money and not doing very much but he's going to bring in some full on profit for the club as a home-grown player and get the chance to relaunch his career. If I look about a few years, I was hopeful he'd be the future of the club but he's drifted in and out, played here and there, been injured, looked unfit,l or just been left on the bench. The sentimental side of me wanted him to have another go, come back better and be this team's Merson or Micheal Thomas but something just hasn't worked out and sometimes that happens. There probably is a player in there and he can be a successful top flight player, one of those ones that makes a load of appearances at that level with the occasional flash of brilliance rather than anything consistently amazing.

Its called arteta - in football all players are totally dependent on being lucky if they are playing for a manager who rates them, and clearly this isnt the case with smith-rowe so lets just call it as it is instead of beating around the bush with comments like "something hasnt worked out". I laugh when I read comments suggesting that the cone boy is right cos no top club is trying to sign him - you give any player only 5 starts in two seasons and watch how their career will stagnate too, and also let me point out that our cone boy's assessment is also what brought zinchenko, tavares, lokongo, jesus and others to the club, so is that an opinion you could bank on ? I dont fcuking think so

I'm not saying it isn't Arteta's decision to leave him out week after week but I also won't rule out the fact that injuries and fitness might be a factor too. I do worry about some of the decision making and the players you've listed are good examples but with ESR, it just seems the only option left. I would have loved him to have been the player I wanted him to be a few years back but but perhaps this is one where the club have looked at the money and the FFP rules and just thought that selling him is the best decision right now.

[Step]

He just hasn’t been given a proper run. How does a player like Nketia be viewed above the talent of ESR? It baffles me. Nketia will never make it at Arsenal and I would be surprised if he does anywhere. Him along with Jesus Shevchenko etc will just ensure we remain there or thereabouts and win nowt. ESR is the breath of fresh air we need. Fulham are getting a gem

[Step]

…..in summary Arsenal are becoming what they were in the latter years stale and far too predictable

[Step]

Later Wenger years I meant to say

[Perryashburtongroves]

He just hasn’t been given a proper run. How does a player like Nketia be viewed above the talent of ESR? It baffles me. Nketia will never make it at Arsenal and I would be surprised if he does anywhere. Him along with Jesus Shevchenko etc will just ensure we remain there or thereabouts and win nowt. ESR is the breath of fresh air we need. Fulham are getting a gem

Nketiah needs to be out the door and I'd happily take 25m for him not the fucking nonsense 50m that apparently we're after. He's pure FFP profit. I have fucking no idea what that's all about but financial people keep saying it matters.

[EC1]

…..in summary Arsenal are becoming what they were in the latter years stale and far too predictable

Becoming stale? We’ve just finished second and had some of the best stats in the league.

The other players you mention no one would probably dispute need selling, but it doesn’t happen overnight.

[Stuart L (2)]

…..in summary Arsenal are becoming what they were in the latter years stale and far too predictable

Becoming stale? We’ve just finished second and had some of the best stats in the league.

The other players you mention no one would probably dispute need selling, but it doesn’t happen overnight.

I think in all fairness Step we will struggle to get rid of Shenchencko like you want, seeing as he doesn’t even play for us

Nketiah is on borrowed time, he’s gone in all but name

[augie]

…..in summary Arsenal are becoming what they were in the latter years stale and far too predictable

Becoming stale? We’ve just finished second and had some of the best stats in the league.

The other players you mention no one would probably dispute need selling, but it doesn’t happen overnight.

I think in all fairness Step we will struggle to get rid of Shenchencko like you want, seeing as he doesn’t even play for us

Nketiah is on borrowed time, he’s gone in all but name

Not unless we drop our asking price cos even boehly at the chavs isnt stupid enough to spend £50m on nketieh