ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[augie]

The meeja seem to be running with a story that we are going to let ramsdale go on loan to forest for the season ...... FCUK THAT SHIT. If the cone boy is ok about letting him go then sell him and bring in funds ffs

[xgtdec]

The meeja seem to be running with a story that we are going to let ramsdale go on loan to forest for the season ...... FCUK THAT SHIT. If the cone boy is ok about letting him go then sell him and bring in funds ffs

But what if he comes good while on loan and there is a claim to be made that you could see it all along and only your managerial expertise and 30 years in football could identify what was needed.

I think ive head that somewhere else before, cant quite remember though

[Retro Gunner]

The meeja seem to be running with a story that we are going to let ramsdale go on loan to forest for the season ...... FCUK THAT SHIT. If the cone boy is ok about letting him go then sell him and bring in funds ffs

But what if he comes good while on loan and there is a claim to be made that you could see it all along and only your managerial expertise and 30 years in football could identify what was needed.

I think ive head that somewhere else before, cant quite remember though

Wtf is it with us and loaning out players that clearly don't have a future?!! Other than ESR, it seems that every player that is up for sale then becomes a subject of loan discussions, with the option to buy usually built in, so no obligation on the club who are loaning the player.

I suspect it comes about for a couple of reasons, firstly...and this is probably the main one...no one is prepared to match our evaluation and secondly, the flawed notion that xgt highlights above, that we're scared to let them go in case they come good, which is a typically cowardly Wenger approach.

Of course, what usually happens is that they go nowhere and sit on their arse for another season while we pay them, or they go on loan for a season, aren't bought and then come back to sit about.

We then eventually let them walk away for nothing when their contract is up, when we could have got a reasonable fee if we hadn't overvalued them. Bonkers. Just fucking sell the blokes.

[augie]

The meeja seem to be running with a story that we are going to let ramsdale go on loan to forest for the season ...... FCUK THAT SHIT. If the cone boy is ok about letting him go then sell him and bring in funds ffs

But what if he comes good while on loan and there is a claim to be made that you could see it all along and only your managerial expertise and 30 years in football could identify what was needed.

I think ive head that somewhere else before, cant quite remember though

Wtf is it with us and loaning out players that clearly don't have a future?!! Other than ESR, it seems that every player that is up for sale then becomes a subject of loan discussions, with the option to buy usually built in, so no obligation on the club who are loaning the player.

I suspect it comes about for a couple of reasons, firstly...and this is probably the main one...no one is prepared to match our evaluation and secondly, the flawed notion that xgt highlights above, that we're scared to let them go in case they come good, which is a typically cowardly Wenger approach.

Of course, what usually happens is that they go nowhere and sit on their arse for another season while we pay them, or they go on loan for a season, aren't bought and then come back to sit about.

We then eventually let them walk away for nothing when their contract is up, when we could have got a reasonable fee if we hadn't overvalued them. Bonkers. Just fucking sell the blokes.

Some of reports suggesting that we looking for £50m for ramsdale - we bought raya to replace him and he cost around £30m, and yet we supposedly looking for £20m extra for a keeper that we view as inferior to him ?? How the fcuk does that work ??

[mcdowell42]

BREAKING: Arsenal offered Chido Obi Martin £15,000-per-week for his first pro-contract which the 16-year-old rejected, as per @Editor_ANS.

It was one of the biggest pro-deals Arsenal have offered in the club’s history.

Manchester United came in and gladly doubled Arsenal’s wage offer to £30,000-per-week which the 16-year-old accepted.

Arsenal have a wage structure and were never going to get near Manchester United’s offer.

[augie]

BREAKING: Arsenal offered Chido Obi Martin £15,000-per-week for his first pro-contract which the 16-year-old rejected, as per @Editor_ANS.

It was one of the biggest pro-deals Arsenal have offered in the club’s history.

Manchester United came in and gladly doubled Arsenal’s wage offer to £30,000-per-week which the 16-year-old accepted.

Arsenal have a wage structure and were never going to get near Manchester United’s offer.

I always want the club to put a special emphasis on players that come through the academy, but if the kid is motivated more by money than anything else, then off with him as far as I am concerned - he is making good progress at a club where he is obviously rated and where he has obviously being excelling, but he is choosing to up sticks and move to a different part of the country and play for different coaches and in a team that may not play to his strengths. I remember watching a documentary on palace's academy two years ago and the kids all wanted fame and money (no mention of winning trophies or playing in world cup etc ), but history is flooded with examples of prospects who were going to be world beaters at 15 and 16, only to fade into oblivion and never heard tell of again and I hope this kid joins that list

[Retro Gunner]

The meeja seem to be running with a story that we are going to let ramsdale go on loan to forest for the season ...... FCUK THAT SHIT. If the cone boy is ok about letting him go then sell him and bring in funds ffs

But what if he comes good while on loan and there is a claim to be made that you could see it all along and only your managerial expertise and 30 years in football could identify what was needed.

I think ive head that somewhere else before, cant quite remember though

Wtf is it with us and loaning out players that clearly don't have a future?!! Other than ESR, it seems that every player that is up for sale then becomes a subject of loan discussions, with the option to buy usually built in, so no obligation on the club who are loaning the player.

I suspect it comes about for a couple of reasons, firstly...and this is probably the main one...no one is prepared to match our evaluation and secondly, the flawed notion that xgt highlights above, that we're scared to let them go in case they come good, which is a typically cowardly Wenger approach.

Of course, what usually happens is that they go nowhere and sit on their arse for another season while we pay them, or they go on loan for a season, aren't bought and then come back to sit about.

We then eventually let them walk away for nothing when their contract is up, when we could have got a reasonable fee if we hadn't overvalued them. Bonkers. Just fucking sell the blokes.

Some of reports suggesting that we looking for £50m for ramsdale - we bought raya to replace him and he cost around £30m, and yet we supposedly looking for £20m extra for a keeper that we view as inferior to him ?? How the fcuk does that work ??

Exactly. Who dreams this crap up? We want 50 million for a keeper that we don't think is good enough and as you say, spent 30 million on a bloke we think is a better option. I couldn't remember what we paid for Ramsdale, so just looked it up and it was somewhere between 24-30 million. So we expect to sell a keeper that we've decided isn't good enough for 20-25 million more than we paid for him. In what world does that make fucking sense??

At this rate, Ramsdale, Eddie, Partey etc will all still be hanging around when the season starts and we'll be paying them fortunes each week to sit on their arse. They'll all be earning a minimum of 5 million a year, so keeping them is false economy. Fucking lunacy. Sell them, realise what you can and move on.

I can't shift the idea that this transfer window is going to end up a big disappointment, with our obvious deficiencies not filled with the required quality, or not filled with anyone new at all. I can hear Arteta telling us that Havertz and Jesus are "super top, top quality" up front.

Hope I'm wrong.

[mcdowell42]

EXCL: Marseille make improved offer to sign Eddie Nketiah from Arsenal. New bid (nearing €20m) similar to previous but closer to formula #AFC want. Likely to be deemed unrealistic but talks ongoing + 5yr contract agreed; 25yo keen on #OM @TheAthleticFC

[Kingralph]

EXCL: Marseille make improved offer to sign Eddie Nketiah from Arsenal. New bid (nearing €20m) similar to previous but closer to formula #AFC want. Likely to be deemed unrealistic but talks ongoing + 5yr contract agreed; 25yo keen on #OM @TheAthleticFC

£16m for Nketiah is ridiculous. Id rather keep him on the bench than flog him for that. Where would we pick up a reserve forward, who has scored EPL goals for that amount of money?

[xgtdec]

What did Eddie get last year, 5 goals, , anyone offering us 3 million a goal for Eddie is more than
Welcome to him, French football may be just the level he’s at to come across as decent, premier league unfortunately is out of his reach for the moment at least

[Stuart L (2)]

What did Eddie get last year, 5 goals, , anyone offering us 3 million a goal for Eddie is more than
Welcome to him, French football may be just the level he’s at to come across as decent, premier league unfortunately is out of his reach for the moment at least

3 of them were in the same game

[mcdowell42]

Surely the fuck we can do better than that price, didn't we sell Balogun for more than 25m

Just googled it,according to Wikipedia we sold him for approx 34m sterling and he got less game time than Eddie

[xgtdec]

You’d think he would be getting a better price but at the end of the day he’s only worth as much as another team is willing to offer. We’re obviously willing to sell him, he’s a fairly shit player bar a few one offs here and there so we’ve absolutely no leverage.

So you can get him gone with a few quid in your pocket or you can stare at him on the bench for another season.

[mcdowell42]

You’d think he would be getting a better price but at the end of the day he’s only worth as much as another team is willing to offer. We’re obviously willing to sell him, he’s a fairly shit player bar a few one offs here and there so we’ve absolutely no leverage.

So you can get him gone with a few quid in your pocket or you can stare at him on the bench for another season.

I suppose if you add in his high wages too,would be hard to get maybe more than 20m

[Redarmy]

The bottom line is this fella was actually getting games in our first team...a team trying to mount a title challenge...