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Anthony Taylor has been appointed to referee Arsenal’s home #PL against Liverpool on Sunday.


Was just thinking, the ref should just send off 1 of our players b4 the game,it will save time later

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:10 pm
Anthony Taylor has been appointed to referee Arsenal’s home #PL against Liverpool on Sunday.


Was just thinking, the ref should just send off 1 of our players b4 the game,it will save time later

First club to have a player get two bookings in the dressing room or a straight red on the day before a match.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:13 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:10 pm
Anthony Taylor has been appointed to referee Arsenal’s home #PL against Liverpool on Sunday.


Was just thinking, the ref should just send off 1 of our players b4 the game,it will save time later

First club to have a player get two bookings in the dressing room or a straight red on the day before a match.
:lol: :high5:


Well Nwaneri got booked when he was on the touchline the other week mate, so nothing would surprise me...And WebbyPedoCuntyBollox would find some excuse...

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"my telepathy told me that Rice was thinking the ref was aCUNT and that he intended to kick the ref in the tunnel before the game", so we thought it best ensure the safety of our Official (and his Rolex Watch)

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What I Do NOT understand is why? The club are Not Appealing Saliba's red Card????


They could easily cite three other incidents of the exact same kind which all got yellows! (even that one on Saka when we played Brighton) :banghead:

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:55 pm
What I Do NOT understand is why? The club are Not Appealing Saliba's red Card????


They could easily cite three other incidents of the exact same kind which all got yellows! (even that one on Saka when we played Brighton) :banghead:
Waste of time, within 5 seconds of the chav incident the other day the rat faced champagne socialist and Jasper were both at pains to say how different it was to the Saliba challenge despite it being the exact same.

Spit the scouse was told to delete his Howard Webb tweet 2 minutes after posting it, there's absolutely nothing to see here move along. If you think there would be any other outcome from an appeal other than an extension of the ban then you haven't been paying enough attention my friend.

City won the league by 2 points last season, that's the margins we're dealing with here. Last weekend premier league officials literally handed them 2 points so you can see the type of consequences that could have come next May.

We were diabolical against Bournemouth - nobody is arguing that. But who's to say that with 11 men on the pitch for the 90 we wouldn't have gotten at least a point if not all 3? We'll never know but there were 2 huge decisions to be made in those games, the referee was asked to go to the monitor for both, and one decision went against us and the other one for city. Well colour me surprised at that, them's the breaks I guess. That's a serious points swing over just one weekend that the officials had a massive influence on.

Every time someone says it's purely incompetence and nothing sinister I always ask the same question - show me a decision that screwed city out of points. Just one, I don't want a big dossier like I could compile from the shit that's constantly served up to us - one single shocking decision. I've yet to hear one.

Incredible that isn't it? In a league full of "incompetent" refs not one single incompetent decision goes against the best team? No forgetting to draw the lines, no 2 yellow cards in 5 seconds, no delaying the restart, no players being sent off left, right and center for frivolous things. Surely by the sheer law of averages they'd have fallen foul of the rampant incompetence of Michael Oliver, Chris Kavanagh or Jared Gillette by now?

It's almost too good to be true.

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rodders999 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:43 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:55 pm
What I Do NOT understand is why? The club are Not Appealing Saliba's red Card????


They could easily cite three other incidents of the exact same kind which all got yellows! (even that one on Saka when we played Brighton) :banghead:
Waste of time, within 5 seconds of the chav incident the other day the rat faced champagne socialist and Jasper were both at pains to say how different it was to the Saliba challenge despite it being the exact same.

Spit the scouse was told to delete his Howard Webb tweet 2 minutes after posting it, there's absolutely nothing to see here move along. If you think there would be any other outcome from an appeal other than an extension of the ban then you haven't been paying enough attention my friend.

City won the league by 2 points last season, that's the margins we're dealing with here. Last weekend premier league officials literally handed them 2 points so you can see the type of consequences that could have come next May.

We were diabolical against Bournemouth - nobody is arguing that. But who's to say that with 11 men on the pitch for the 90 we wouldn't have gotten at least a point if not all 3? We'll never know but there were 2 huge decisions to be made in those games, the referee was asked to go to the monitor for both, and one decision went against us and the other one for city. Well colour me surprised at that, them's the breaks I guess. That's a serious points swing over just one weekend that the officials had a massive influence on.

Every time someone says it's purely incompetence and nothing sinister I always ask the same question - show me a decision that screwed city out of points. Just one, I don't want a big dossier like I could compile from the shit that's constantly served up to us - one single shocking decision. I've yet to hear one.

Incredible that isn't it? In a league full of "incompetent" refs not one single incompetent decision goes against the best team? No forgetting to draw the lines, no 2 yellow cards in 5 seconds, no delaying the restart, no players being sent off left, right and center for frivolous things. Surely by the sheer law of averages they'd have fallen foul of the rampant incompetence of Michael Oliver, Chris Kavanagh or Jared Gillette by now?

It's almost too good to be true.
Excellent, excellent points, Rodders. I'd also throw in the number of times that their players surround the ref without ever being booked. They've had goals given for the exact same thing that other clubs have had them chalked off. They have that tactic of getting a player to stand near the keeper in an offside position then move slightly out of the way to make it seem that they aren't interfering. It's a clear tactic and one that of course, hasn't been highlighted by the media because they're too busy claiming Ben White is a threat to world football by trying to distract an opposition goalkeeper. Remember when we had a goal away at Leicester overturned by VAR a couple of years ago? The one where White or someone, can't remember who brushed hands or arms with their keeper? Remember when Cheaty had a goal disallowed for having a player stand right in front of the keeper against Fulham last season or for barging into the keeper last weekend? No. We don't because it never fucking happens.

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rodders999 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:43 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:55 pm
What I Do NOT understand is why? The club are Not Appealing Saliba's red Card????


They could easily cite three other incidents of the exact same kind which all got yellows! (even that one on Saka when we played Brighton) :banghead:
Waste of time, within 5 seconds of the chav incident the other day the rat faced champagne socialist and Jasper were both at pains to say how different it was to the Saliba challenge despite it being the exact same.

Spit the scouse was told to delete his Howard Webb tweet 2 minutes after posting it, there's absolutely nothing to see here move along. If you think there would be any other outcome from an appeal other than an extension of the ban then you haven't been paying enough attention my friend.

City won the league by 2 points last season, that's the margins we're dealing with here. Last weekend premier league officials literally handed them 2 points so you can see the type of consequences that could have come next May.

We were diabolical against Bournemouth - nobody is arguing that. But who's to say that with 11 men on the pitch for the 90 we wouldn't have gotten at least a point if not all 3? We'll never know but there were 2 huge decisions to be made in those games, the referee was asked to go to the monitor for both, and one decision went against us and the other one for city. Well colour me surprised at that, them's the breaks I guess. That's a serious points swing over just one weekend that the officials had a massive influence on.

Every time someone says it's purely incompetence and nothing sinister I always ask the same question - show me a decision that screwed city out of points. Just one, I don't want a big dossier like I could compile from the shit that's constantly served up to us - one single shocking decision. I've yet to hear one.

Incredible that isn't it? In a league full of "incompetent" refs not one single incompetent decision goes against the best team? No forgetting to draw the lines, no 2 yellow cards in 5 seconds, no delaying the restart, no players being sent off left, right and center for frivolous things. Surely by the sheer law of averages they'd have fallen foul of the rampant incompetence of Michael Oliver, Chris Kavanagh or Jared Gillette by now?

It's almost too good to be true.
Great post Rodders. 8)

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:52 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:43 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:55 pm
What I Do NOT understand is why? The club are Not Appealing Saliba's red Card????


They could easily cite three other incidents of the exact same kind which all got yellows! (even that one on Saka when we played Brighton) :banghead:
Waste of time, within 5 seconds of the chav incident the other day the rat faced champagne socialist and Jasper were both at pains to say how different it was to the Saliba challenge despite it being the exact same.

Spit the scouse was told to delete his Howard Webb tweet 2 minutes after posting it, there's absolutely nothing to see here move along. If you think there would be any other outcome from an appeal other than an extension of the ban then you haven't been paying enough attention my friend.

City won the league by 2 points last season, that's the margins we're dealing with here. Last weekend premier league officials literally handed them 2 points so you can see the type of consequences that could have come next May.

We were diabolical against Bournemouth - nobody is arguing that. But who's to say that with 11 men on the pitch for the 90 we wouldn't have gotten at least a point if not all 3? We'll never know but there were 2 huge decisions to be made in those games, the referee was asked to go to the monitor for both, and one decision went against us and the other one for city. Well colour me surprised at that, them's the breaks I guess. That's a serious points swing over just one weekend that the officials had a massive influence on.

Every time someone says it's purely incompetence and nothing sinister I always ask the same question - show me a decision that screwed city out of points. Just one, I don't want a big dossier like I could compile from the shit that's constantly served up to us - one single shocking decision. I've yet to hear one.

Incredible that isn't it? In a league full of "incompetent" refs not one single incompetent decision goes against the best team? No forgetting to draw the lines, no 2 yellow cards in 5 seconds, no delaying the restart, no players being sent off left, right and center for frivolous things. Surely by the sheer law of averages they'd have fallen foul of the rampant incompetence of Michael Oliver, Chris Kavanagh or Jared Gillette by now?

It's almost too good to be true.
Excellent, excellent points, Rodders. I'd also throw in the number of times that their players surround the ref without ever being booked. They've had goals given for the exact same thing that other clubs have had them chalked off. They have that tactic of getting a player to stand near the keeper in an offside position then move slightly out of the way to make it seem that they aren't interfering. It's a clear tactic and one that of course, hasn't been highlighted by the media because they're too busy claiming Ben White is a threat to world football by trying to distract an opposition goalkeeper. Remember when we had a goal away at Leicester overturned by VAR a couple of years ago? The one where White or someone, can't remember who brushed hands or arms with their keeper? Remember when Cheaty had a goal disallowed for having a player stand right in front of the keeper against Fulham last season or for barging into the keeper last weekend? No. We don't because it never fucking happens.
Also a great post Perry. 8)

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:13 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:10 pm
Anthony Taylor has been appointed to referee Arsenal’s home #PL against Liverpool on Sunday.


Was just thinking, the ref should just send off 1 of our players b4 the game,it will save time later

First club to have a player get two bookings in the dressing room or a straight red on the day before a match.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

We're at home aren't we? Any chance our groundsman might get sent off? :shock:

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Ref Anthony Taylor from Manchester and VAR Michael Salisbury from Preston....... What could go wrong as we play another team from the North West? :rubchin: :roll:

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-33942656

Richard Keys on our side.

"Such speculation regarding Webb has since been squashed". Really, by whom????

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Compare all the whinging and moaning about relegation candidates Manure having a penalty given against them yesterday with Saliba's sending off last week. Every cûnt going in the media was happy to say that the ref was right to send him off but the fucking worms are queuing up this morning to tell us all about how the mancs have been hard done by in relegation six pointer and how it's a disgrace that VAR was allowed to overrule that. Further proof, if any was needed.

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Konate challenge has to be a pen, if that was the other end I'd be thinking the same, looked stonewall.

Kiwior at the end wins the header, Taylor blows a second or two after. Ball in net and it's ruled out.

Would seen as very minor but a clear corner to us last min added time linesman has to see it chooses not to, goal kick Liverpool.

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When they spend five minutes trying to find anything they can to rule out a goal we score but brush away anything that might go in our favour week after week and season after season, it can only lead you to believe that there is cheating and bias at work. It doesn't matter how many fucking cameras they have or VAR twats doing it, if they don't even try to look at an incident, they won't find a reason to overturn it. That was a clear penalty on Martinelli. Waist high challenge nowhere near the ball but apparently they claim that the ball was played. It wasn't, no way. They didn't even look at it properly. Until they start broadcasting the audio we will never know the reasons behind their decisions. The fact they refuse to allow the audio to be broadcast tells us everything we need to know. If you're not corrupt, cheating or biased, you have nothing to hide. They are and do.

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Nice to see the old conspiracy theories doing the round again!

Lets not forget the dippers outrage when we went up there and Odegaard clearly handled the ball in the box and nothing was given then either

The point for me is more about the blatant sabotage of VAR, as it always has been. Apart from very isolated incidents the Euros ran perfectly well with the semi automated system and on average less than 4 minutes was being added on. Roll forward a few months to the world's richest league and here we are again with two clowns getting the compass and set square out trying to estimate a few millimetres of a toe nail for offside and taking 4-5 minutes over it again, the 4th official's board regularly showing 7+ minutes added on etc. Its so pathetic it defies belief

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