Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[xgtdec]

""rsenal boss Mikel Arteta:

"One thing we needed from Thomas to be at the level we wanted to be [was his fitness]. He's working so hard, he's playing really well in different positions, with different demands and he's coping with it in a great way. He's a big player for us.

"He's only 31 and he's in a really good place and we will have these discussions."


Is legohead watching the same player that i am, he must be an absolute baller.............in training sessions

[DB10GOONER]

Fuck him out. He's peaked last year.

[IW8Goalmachine]

Fuck him out. He's peaked last year.

Yeah.

He's done.

Get the *word censored* out before the season is totally fucked.

[OneBardGooner]

So, if Arteta is to go who do we get in to replace him; realistic suggestions only please.

[xgtdec]

I'd take Massimiliano Allegri no bother......i hear he's doing nothing but a bit of gardening these days

but he'd need at least 4 years, he'd have just as much a clear out as emery had!

[Gunner Rob]

So, if Arteta is to go who do we get in to replace him; realistic suggestions only please.

I’m not wasting my time even considering that.
Arteta has a long term contract, he isn’t going anywhere for at least TWO years - however bad it gets.

[Gunner Rob]

I'd take Massimiliano Allegri no bother......i hear he's doing nothing but a bit of gardening these days

but he'd need at least 4 years, he'd have just as much a clear out as emery had!

You have got to remember that Arteta is over achieving - Kroenke is only interested in a top 4 finish. We are not even trying to win the league

[xgtdec]

I'd take Massimiliano Allegri no bother......i hear he's doing nothing but a bit of gardening these days

but he'd need at least 4 years, he'd have just as much a clear out as emery had!

You have got to remember that Arteta is over achieving - Kroenke is only interested in a top 4 finish. We are not even trying to win the league

Yeah but ive a winning mentality, even if arteta doesnt

[Perryashburtongroves]

Been found out. Slow decline with the odd decent result until he decides to leave. We'll now keep getting fed a load of the old nonsense about us being "very close" to challenging for the title and how we know what we "need to do next season" but we'll never get there because he won't be able to admit his way won't work or be open to adapting. Chavs will be back past us in the next year, Dippers will keep getting away with it week after week and we'll be exactly where we were between 2008 and 2016, top four but never seriously a threat.

[Step]

A tactical nightmare. As said many times a latter day Wenger.
No flexibility. No respect for the opposition.
At least we got Sterling on board. He'll make all the difference. Who needs a goal scorer.
The guy is clueless but the media love him.
Will not win a bean with this clown.

[TeeCee]

Kroenke is only interested in a top 4 finish. We are not even trying to win the league

Sorry mate, that's a silly comment. We've been so damned close against a club that's been pimped by unlimited money for donkeys years.
Arteta inherited a shit show and his big mistake was accepting some of that shit and even liking it! (David Luiz for instance)
He's got some major issues and he's got some positive points. Whether it's enough to win the league I don't know, we've been so unlucky with injuries this season it feels like we probably won't win it now. I'll say it right now as well, I don't think City are winning it this year, I've seen them play several times and they aren't that good. The Mong is missing a lot of chances and they rely on him big time. They've had injuries to key players and just like us, it's affected them, only they haven't had to play as many hard games as us. Liverpool have had an easy run of games overall and hardly any injuries. They will be in the mix at the end of the season for sure, but again, if they lost Salah and Van Dijk for a length of time, they'd be struggling as well.
I still think Arteta has changed how we play and that's madness, we were on the cusp ( ) and just needed another couple of attacking players but he goes out and signs defensive players and makes us much more defensive overall......we will win fuck all playing like we are. Very frustrating, but Arteta, the players and Kroenke clearly want to win it.

[Gunner Rob]

Kroenke is only interested in a top 4 finish. We are not even trying to win the league

Sorry mate, that's a silly comment. We've been so damned close against a club that's been pimped by unlimited money for donkeys years.
Arteta inherited a shit show and his big mistake was accepting some of that shit and even liking it! (David Luiz for instance)
He's got some major issues and he's got some positive points. Whether it's enough to win the league I don't know, we've been so unlucky with injuries this season it feels like we probably won't win it now. I'll say it right now as well, I don't think City are winning it this year, I've seen them play several times and they aren't that good. The Mong is missing a lot of chances and they rely on him big time. They've had injuries to key players and just like us, it's affected them, only they haven't had to play as many hard games as us. Liverpool have had an easy run of games overall and hardly any injuries. They will be in the mix at the end of the season for sure, but again, if they lost Salah and Van Dijk for a length of time, they'd be struggling as well.
I still think Arteta has changed how we play and that's madness, we were on the cusp ( ) and just needed another couple of attacking players but he goes out and signs defensive players and makes us much more defensive overall......we will win fuck all playing like we are. Very frustrating, but Arteta, the players and Kroenke clearly want to win it.

Look if we were serious about winning the league then we would have gone out and bought a top striker in one of the last two summers. Yes we came close to winning the league last season but that was more by luck than anything. We were injury free, other top clubs were struggling etc.

Reality has kicked in this season. If things go wrong for Arteta then he has no plan B, there is nothing. Yesterday proved that completely.

[Redarmy]

A tactical nightmare. As said many times a latter day Wenger.
No flexibility. No respect for the opposition.
At least we got Sterling on board. He'll make all the difference. Who needs a goal scorer.
The guy is clueless but the media love him.
Will not win a bean with this clown.

did he buy sterling because he got on with him well at city...is that it FFS? the bloke is well past his prime and not the player we need

buying friends and fellow countrymen...merino is going to be average at best by the look of it

its sunday and still cant believe how utter shit they played....truly pathetic display

[Redarmy]

Kroenke is only interested in a top 4 finish. We are not even trying to win the league

Sorry mate, that's a silly comment. We've been so damned close against a club that's been pimped by unlimited money for donkeys years.
Arteta inherited a shit show and his big mistake was accepting some of that shit and even liking it! (David Luiz for instance)
He's got some major issues and he's got some positive points. Whether it's enough to win the league I don't know, we've been so unlucky with injuries this season it feels like we probably won't win it now. I'll say it right now as well, I don't think City are winning it this year, I've seen them play several times and they aren't that good. The Mong is missing a lot of chances and they rely on him big time. They've had injuries to key players and just like us, it's affected them, only they haven't had to play as many hard games as us. Liverpool have had an easy run of games overall and hardly any injuries. They will be in the mix at the end of the season for sure, but again, if they lost Salah and Van Dijk for a length of time, they'd be struggling as well.
I still think Arteta has changed how we play and that's madness, we were on the cusp ( ) and just needed another couple of attacking players but he goes out and signs defensive players and makes us much more defensive overall......we will win fuck all playing like we are. Very frustrating, but Arteta, the players and Kroenke clearly want to win it.

Look if we were serious about winning the league then we would have gone out and bought a top striker in one of the last two summers. Yes we came close to winning the league last season but that was more by luck than anything. We were injury free, other top clubs were struggling etc.

Reality has kicked in this season. If things go wrong for Arteta then he has no plan B, there is nothing. Yesterday proved that completely.

plan B........ yesterday they were absolutely toothless up front....fuck all....absolutely no threat

[SteveO 35]

It was widely reported that the main reason for him being comfortable with ESR, Nelson and Vieira all going out in one window, was the huge promise of Rwanieri. Well nows the time to let the lad run loose because Martinelli and Trossard aren't cutting it. Could be season defining

The centre forward thing for me is the most baffling. Havertz had a fantastic 2nd half of the season but there literally is no plan B. Jesus is utterly hopeless and Eddie Lightweight has already gone. I know it isn't exactly the Kai fan club round here, but imagine if he is out for any period. Jesus? Martinelli? I mean we are royally fucked if he's out and that lack of CF option is definitely the biggest mistake he has made over this past 12 months