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the playing mantis wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:41 pm
falkirk goon wrote:
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Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:22 pm
I still have a feeling we win the League but with every side they face dialling in performances i am struggling to see where they will drop points.
I don't have a feeling we'll win it :cry: We've gave ourselves zero room for slips now.Im like you I can't see where these are dropping points..it seems every team they play are playing 3 or 4 out of 10..Every week almost.
Apart from Fulham and Newcastle where they dropped points recently

I'm all for doom and gloom but there nothing special.
We don’t really need them to tank. Drop points away to Villa and away to Chelsea. Two draws is 4 we can gain on them. We need to be on it. Win away at Anfield. That’s another 3. If their lead at any point gets whittled then it will come on top. The bottling moniker is the modern day insult which can do real harm to teams with big leads. Long way to go. We just need to keep them honest.

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Chavs with their multi billion pound squad and effectively playing one game a week couldn’t beat Everton, in fact they should’ve lost, yet some insightful Gooners think they are some shinning example. I’ve said before, if this lot had serious European football, they’d be midtable.
As for Liverpool, fair play to the bald tit but he’s benefitted massively from the strengthening that Klopp’s did last summer. Let’s see is he can keep their key players fit for the rest of the season. Defensively they look a bit open and we now share the best defensive record with them.

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Funny thing looking at the Spuds forums is that they don’t seem concerned at all that they’re sitting in 11th after half a season, two points behind Brighton and Fulham. “We’ve just had some injuries, and faced some thought teams. Keep the faith with Ange!” etc. Expectations of what constitutes a reasonable season are in the sewer with that lot. They hark back to a supposedly glorious past from getting on for a century ago while their entire reason for being the past half a century is their games against Arsenal and Chelsea where they might get to try and upset a title challenges.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:11 pm
Red Army 2 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:04 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:49 pm
Scum giving their punters what they love most, another defeat. Absolute joke of a club and always will be.
strange thing is a most of them will be happy to loose at home rather than do us a favour......thats why they can never be a big club with that mentality....remember glenn hoddle saying much the same when he managed them
Absolutely. Pure small time. Cheering on the opposition last season and one of them injuring themselves jumping up and down when they got a draw which meant we won the league at their shithole again. Their entire existence is based on hoping we don't win something. It's laughably pathetic and will never change. We are in a different world to them on and off the pitch, always have been, always will be. :barscarf:
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Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:15 am
Funny thing looking at the Spuds forums is that they don’t seem concerned at all that they’re sitting in 11th after half a season, two points behind Brighton and Fulham. “We’ve just had some injuries, and faced some thought teams. Keep the faith with Ange!” etc. Expectations of what constitutes a reasonable season are in the sewer with that lot. They hark back to a supposedly glorious past from getting on for a century ago while their entire reason for being the past half a century is their games against Arsenal and Chelsea where they might get to try and upset a title challenges.



Tbf to the scum fans, what are they meant to say or do ? Their last 3 managers have played dour pragmatic football and the fans were up in arms citing that they have a tradition of playing attacking football - now they have a manager more in tune with their traditional style of football, and the meeja are up in arms trying to lead a revolt against big ange for his lack of pragmatism :roll: Despite what the new age fans and meeja will tell you, AFC were built on a tradition of boring but successful football - its what we did and we were damn good at it. The scum on the other hand had little or no success to come at us over, but they did play good football and were much admired by neutrals for that. They tried to copy us a few years ago by bringing in defensive minded managers in the hope that would lead to success, but whilst fans might accept shit football if they are winning, they wont accept it if they are not, and after 3 defensive managers in a row they were crying out for a change of style of football. They now have a manager that is giving them attacking football but surprise surprise they still aint happy - its not like they have a glorious history to compare it too, so wtf do they expect from a club that hasnt won a league in over 60 years ? Of course the meeja slating of them is being led by jamie redkrapp - if anyone should sympathise with their manager it is him cos he crooked dad also had them playing attacking football but won nothing, and I suspect that part of his agenda is driven by a fear of any manager usurping his daddy's standing there. As Gooners we have bemoaned our injuries this season, but they have TEN first team players out at the mo (inc first choice keeper and 3 of first choice back 4), so was anyone expecting anything other than a hammering for them yesterday ? I certainly wasnt

I'm on a whatsapp group with another Gooner who would be a lot more positive in outlook than me, but on Saturday evening he said on our group that Arsenal are a hard watch at the moment and that says it all to me - the scum are imo an average side and no better than that, but tbf to them they do play with pace and real attacking intent and I respect that. I have said on here a few times that despite all his public comments about how much belief he has in his team, every single time we go to citeeh it is shocking how defensive we play under the cone boy - tbf to klopp, and ange and even manure teams it is NOT something they do cos they go there and attack them, and that to me is a case of managers backing up their words with action. The scum are not getting turned over cos of their tactics - they are getting turned over cos they have a lack of quality players. They could have gone pragmatic yesterday and only conceded 3 but scored none so the net result would have been the same imo, so it comes down to what you want and expect from your team I guess, and that is a dilemma that their scum fans need to ask themselves

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Spurs have not played attacking football which won things since the 80s. They are in the same camp as West Ham for harking back to glory days which didn’t really exist.

This argument that we lost the League drawing away to City last season winds me up. We had chances to win that game. If we had gone all out we may well have lost. Our last 16 games were W 14, D 1 (City) L 1 (Villa). That was title winning form. The league was lost in the first half with losses to Fulham and West Ham at Christmas.

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
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Spurs have not played attacking football which won things since the 80s. They are in the same camp as West Ham for harking back to glory days which didn’t really exist.

This argument that we lost the League drawing away to City last season winds me up. We had chances to win that game. If we had gone all out we may well have lost. Our last 16 games were W 14, D 1 (City) L 1 (Villa). That was title winning form. The league was lost in the first half with losses to Fulham and West Ham at Christmas.
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Limerick Gooner wrote:
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Spurs have not played attacking football which won things since the 80s. They are in the same camp as West Ham for harking back to glory days which didn’t really exist.

This argument that we lost the League drawing away to City last season winds me up. We had chances to win that game. If we had gone all out we may well have lost. Our last 16 games were W 14, D 1 (City) L 1 (Villa). That was title winning form. The league was lost in the first half with losses to Fulham and West Ham at Christmas.



I said already spurs have no tradition of winning trophies so I dont know why anyone expects anything different :? :?

Secondly I wasnt referring to last seasons game with city when I spoke about us playing defensively - I was talking in general and this season's game up there was far worse cos we were playing blanket defence long before sending off. It's funny how you referenced what might have happened if we attacked citeeh in their back yard, cos the scum showed no fear against them up there and drew 3-3, and palace and victims both drew there as well, but yet we were their only challengers and didnt believe we could go there and win ?? I have consistantly said that the premier league is not like other european leagues and that if you want to win it then you have to go out to win games instead of playing not to lose - that is the reason why fat rafa never won a league with victims

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:19 am
Spurs have not played attacking football which won things since the 80s. They are in the same camp as West Ham for harking back to glory days which didn’t really exist.

This argument that we lost the League drawing away to City last season winds me up. We had chances to win that game. If we had gone all out we may well have lost. Our last 16 games were W 14, D 1 (City) L 1 (Villa). That was title winning form. The league was lost in the first half with losses to Fulham and West Ham at Christmas.
Agreed, and we lost 4points to Fulham from winning positions. Home game was against 10men. These games had a more detrimental effects than the credible draw to City away. We took 4points off City so the notion that we lost the title in the head to head is nonsense

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General wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:27 am
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:19 am
Spurs have not played attacking football which won things since the 80s. They are in the same camp as West Ham for harking back to glory days which didn’t really exist.

This argument that we lost the League drawing away to City last season winds me up. We had chances to win that game. If we had gone all out we may well have lost. Our last 16 games were W 14, D 1 (City) L 1 (Villa). That was title winning form. The league was lost in the first half with losses to Fulham and West Ham at Christmas.
Agreed, and we lost 4points to Fulham from winning positions. Home game was against 10men. These games had a more detrimental effects than the credible draw to City away. We took 4points off City so the notion that we lost the title in the head to head is nonsense



And who said that we lost the title in the head to head ?

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augie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:03 pm
General wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:27 am
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:19 am
Spurs have not played attacking football which won things since the 80s. They are in the same camp as West Ham for harking back to glory days which didn’t really exist.

This argument that we lost the League drawing away to City last season winds me up. We had chances to win that game. If we had gone all out we may well have lost. Our last 16 games were W 14, D 1 (City) L 1 (Villa). That was title winning form. The league was lost in the first half with losses to Fulham and West Ham at Christmas.
Agreed, and we lost 4points to Fulham from winning positions. Home game was against 10men. These games had a more detrimental effects than the credible draw to City away. We took 4points off City so the notion that we lost the title in the head to head is nonsense



And who said that we lost the title in the head to head ?
We lost the title by playing for a draw against City. That’s the argument.

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General wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:12 pm
augie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:03 pm
General wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:27 am
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:19 am
Spurs have not played attacking football which won things since the 80s. They are in the same camp as West Ham for harking back to glory days which didn’t really exist.

This argument that we lost the League drawing away to City last season winds me up. We had chances to win that game. If we had gone all out we may well have lost. Our last 16 games were W 14, D 1 (City) L 1 (Villa). That was title winning form. The league was lost in the first half with losses to Fulham and West Ham at Christmas.
Agreed, and we lost 4points to Fulham from winning positions. Home game was against 10men. These games had a more detrimental effects than the credible draw to City away. We took 4points off City so the notion that we lost the title in the head to head is nonsense



And who said that we lost the title in the head to head ?
We lost the title by playing for a draw against City. That’s the argument.



And again I'll ask who made that argument ?

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I can't believe the Spuds leak goals from everywhere and yet Fat Flange still refuses to tighten things up even a little bit :lol: :lol:

It's who we are mate! :barscarf: :barscarf:

Time for a contract extension!!

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TeeCee wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:38 am
I can't believe the Spuds leak goals from everywhere and yet Fat Flange still refuses to tighten things up even a little bit :lol: :lol:

It's who we are mate! :barscarf: :barscarf:

Time for a contract extension!!



We lost saliba for the run in two seasons ago and collapsed defensively - they are missing their first choice keeper and 3 of their first choice back 4, so how the fcuk do they tighten up ?? It's only a month since they went to citeeh and battered them more than any premier league team have done in years - what do people reasonably expect from them ? As long as I have lived they have in essence been a cup team capable of beating anyone on their day, but equally capable of losing to shite teams on off days, so imo they have reverted to what they have been throughout their history, If they had lost 3-0 at home playing defensively would the media and fans have viewed it as a better result ? :? The victims weakness has long been their defence and average midfield imo, so any opposition team hoping to get something out of those games has to try to exploit where they are weak, but of course in doing so you are leaving a depleted back line exposed to the best forward line in the league - it is a pick your poison moment

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That game was bitter / sweet . Always nice to see the Tott's turkey get stuffed but we could have done with a bit of neighbourly Christmas Spirit too with the victims dropping a point or three.
However we have to accept that our downfall is entirely of our own making . Under normal circumstances as you watch us play we are the better team with better players but we have it in us not to turn up on occasions and it's those days that we lose titles.
Champions are a well oiled machine but we have a slipping clutch on the trophies.

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