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so we face another pre season of uncertainty,where we are weak we dont seem to be strengthening,but i will add yet because we dont know who wenger willl sign,,
my question is
is wenger just too comfortable at arsenal, he's under no pressure from the board who seem to care more about off field then on field.
we could win nothing again ths year and still he wouldnt be under any pressure to move on or up , am i wrong is he under pressure no one man is bigger then the club not even arsene so what will happen next summer if this one is bad [/b]
Of course he should have more pressure on him from above him at the club but because he is doing the job quietly and cheaply without kicking up a fuss about a lack of funding then they will sit back lest the spotlight gets put on them and their lack of resources
On the scouse forum I clicked on last night (see smoothie's thread on our away kit) there were a good few comments from the theiving scousers about our commerative kit of anfield 89 having a small club ethos. While I dont agree with them on our kit idea I do agree that these days our ambitions are now small club like - we hope to win a league but more realistically are aiming to finish in the champions league places and hopefully win a cup. Our those aims any different to the scum from shite hart lane, or villa or pompey or citeeh even ? We are gone from an all dominant team in 2004 to a club that not alone has to sell before buying but also must buy cheaper than the players they sell
AW is a winner. The most pressure will be the pressure he puts upon himself. Our failure to win trophies in the last few years has nothing to do with a lack of pressure.
He wants to win as much as any fan, I am certain of that!
This is the point Mourinhio made about Arsenal being a unique club where there is far less pressure, if any, on the Manager to deliver.
Or at least that it how it can appear to an outsider.
There was an interesting piece in The Times on Monday drawing the distinction between us 'competing' - and actually winning something. The conclusion being there is a big difference between the two and "deep down Wenger knows this."
If we finish empty handed again this campaign, I have a feeling (hope) that pressue will be exerted but it could just be applied to the Board rather than Wenger.
I dont think they is any real pressure as in, win something our you out. I think its more of a personal pressure, wenger wouldn't like the fact that we haven't won anything and (as someone else said) would be putting pressure on him self to deliver.
And at the end of the day that is what being a top manger is all about, even when the board are completly relaxed with you performance (winning or not) you still have to find the desire and drive to perform. I think wenger has this drive and will be eagerly anticpating the start of the season to show what we can do, and shut the media up for the umpteenth time.
Fabby is a Foot (Leg-end) wrote:AW is a winner. The most pressure will be the pressure he puts upon himself. Our failure to win trophies in the last few years has nothing to do with a lack of pressure.
He wants to win as much as any fan, I am certain of that!
Fabby is a Foot (Leg-end) wrote:AW is a winner. The most pressure will be the pressure he puts upon himself. Our failure to win trophies in the last few years has nothing to do with a lack of pressure.
He wants to win as much as any fan, I am certain of that!
Are you allowed out on your own you poor soul
Which bit?
Are you questioning the fact he puts pressure on himself?
Or the fact he wants to win?
Or the fact I rate Alumnia and Senderos?
augie wrote:On the scouse forum I clicked on last night (see smoothie's thread on our away kit) there were a good few comments from the theiving scousers about our commerative kit of anfield 89 having a small club ethos. While I dont agree with them on our kit idea I do agree that these days our ambitions are now small club like - we hope to win a league but more realistically are aiming to finish in the champions league places and hopefully win a cup.
And the last time Liverpool were seriously in the running for the league was when? About 2002 wasn't it? Not many lectures to be taken from them.
I agree with Rob, there are plenty of arguments for the board to come under more pressure. They are right to prioritise stability and the financial health of the club, and deserve credit for that, but they could still do a lot better to get some additional, non-Usmanov investment in. And what about getting Kroenke onto the board, and appointing a CEO, Finance Director and Director of Football? And not lying to the fans about Wenger's transfer budget? ANd PHW's ridiculous statements?
Fabby is a Foot (Leg-end) wrote:AW is a winner. The most pressure will be the pressure he puts upon himself. Our failure to win trophies in the last few years has nothing to do with a lack of pressure.
He wants to win as much as any fan, I am certain of that!
Are you allowed out on your own you poor soul
Which bit?
Are you questioning the fact he puts pressure on himself?
Or the fact he wants to win? Or the fact I rate Alumnia and Senderos?
Although I agree with you about Wenger, I don't think you are going to win many arguments when you revert to the 'Almunia/Senderos' defence!!
I Hate Hleb wrote:You've added an extra letter in the word 'counts', surely?
we will see IHH.
In Kolo's absence Senderos will grow in stature and Kolo will have to move to midfield to get games mean while Alumnia will play out of his skin and keep clean sheets in the key title run in and you will all be celebrating their greatness!
augie wrote:On the scouse forum I clicked on last night (see smoothie's thread on our away kit) there were a good few comments from the theiving scousers about our commerative kit of anfield 89 having a small club ethos. While I dont agree with them on our kit idea I do agree that these days our ambitions are now small club like - we hope to win a league but more realistically are aiming to finish in the champions league places and hopefully win a cup.
And the last time Liverpool were seriously in the running for the league was when? About 2002 wasn't it? Not many lectures to be taken from them.
I agree with Rob, there are plenty of arguments for the board to come under more pressure. They are right to prioritise stability and the financial health of the club, and deserve credit for that, but they could still do a lot better to get some additional, non-Usmanov investment in. And what about getting Kroenke onto the board, and appointing a CEO, Finance Director and Director of Football? And not lying to the fans about Wenger's transfer budget? ANd PHW's ridiculous statements?
As I said before I dont go along with the ramblings of our "scouse friends" and I agree 100% that they aint even near winning a premiership and in my opinion they never will be as long as the goateed *word censored* is in charge However as I have said a million times before we would always accept failure if we felt that everybody (players,management and board) were doing everything in their power to try and bring success back to the club and I do not believe that to be the case. Anyway it shouldnt be ignored that the scouse cnuts have won a champions league during that time and we would love to win that wouldnt we ?
is he under pressure 
