Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
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9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
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27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
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44%
 
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How can the Kroenkes trust this c.unt with a penny more of their dosh. Don't get me wrong I couldn't give a toss about the owners but if I'd accumulated wealth on that scale, the last thing I'd do is place chunks of it in the hands of a fucking novice to spunk up the wall

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In the same way that Wanker allowed a soft, excuses culture to creep into the club after the horrific broken leg that Edu suffered, so has Arteta allowed an excuses culture to creep now. Like Wanker failed to create the seige mentality after that injury in 2008, so has Arteta failed to do the same with the red cards, dodgy VAR and bookings. Instead of doing the GG, Bertie Mee or Herbert Chapman thing of they just hate us and we'll fucking show them we're Arsenal by winning, he's just indulged failure and let them players feel that it's not their performances that are costing us, it's bad luck. Like I say, shades of Wanker in 2008 and then the rest of the time until he went. When you need a proper leader and a driving force, we've had excuses and indulgence. It's only going one way now.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:49 pm
How can the Kroenkes trust this c.unt with a penny more of their dosh. Don't get me wrong I couldn't give a toss about the owners but if I'd accumulated wealth on that scale, the last thing I'd do is place chunks of it in the hands of a fucking novice to spunk up the wall



That's my thing too - as much as we NEED a striker badly, I dont trust this c.unt to spend another penny lest we end up with another havertz or merino or some other fcuking dud :roll: I have said it many times over past 18 months or so, but our transfer record under el basque and edu is woeful - so many players bought and yet a paper thin squad. So much money spent by el basque, and yet the best and most important players were bought before he came, so what does that say about the quality of his purchases ?

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We’re being knocked out of cups by hungry sides who either have no chance in the League or who haven’t won a thing since the 60s. We are not good enough to win the League. We have no real pedigree in the European Cup. Doesn’t look like a plan that will win anything. It’s like Arteta has spread the thimbleful of jam he has across 4 slices of toast. You either build a bigger and better more balanced squad or you concentrate on certain trophies. We will drop points against Spurs and lose to Villa in my opinion.

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:02 pm
We’re being knocked out of cups by hungry sides who either have no chance in the League or who haven’t won a thing since the 60s. We are not good enough to win the League. We have no real pedigree in the European Cup. Doesn’t look like a plan that will win anything. It’s like Arteta has spread the thimbleful of jam he has across 4 slices of toast. You either build a bigger and better more balanced squad or you concentrate on certain trophies. We will drop points against Spurs and lose to Villa in my opinion.
This is why I have been saying all season that we shouldn’t have taken the CL so seriously in the group stage (we would still qualify just not in the top 8. Look at the points we have dropped after those CL matches - we would be in contention for the league if we hadn’t dropped them.

If we had rotated more then we wouldn’t be facing the injures we are seeing now either. All this to finish in the top 8 of the CL so that we get 2 fewer matches next month…..by which time we will be out of all other competitions anyway….Utter fool

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As Master Po said to Kwai Chang Caine in Kung Fu all those years ago:

"Glass Hopper It Is Time To Reave".


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OneBardGooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:28 pm
As Master Po said to Kwai Chang Caine in Kung Fu all those years ago:

"Glass Hopper It Is Time To Reave".
Arteta’s transfer strategy is clearly pwawn kwackers. :-P

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:30 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... y75xd8v53o

Plain to see…
Press starting to point out the failure to buy a striker more and more now. It's open fucking season on him from the supporters and them if he doesn't get a proper one sorted by the start of February. I can't see anyone accepting him not buying one. If we do, expect a panic buy nobody from a mid-table Spanish team or someone who's scored 4 in 30 games playing as a winger in some shit league somewhere. We're in Chamakh/Gervinho/ Sanogo/Pepe territory now.

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There's no top striker coming in this month

The names put forward so far have been Oshimen, Isak, Gyokeres and Mbeumo and I think all of them are out of reach. There's some two bob young Asian lad at PSG too apparently

This season has gone. The problem has been known about for a good couple of years now and he has wasted window after window failing to address it

The best decision to make now is not give him any more money to waste, write this season off and then fuck him off

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:18 pm
There's no top striker coming in this month

The names put forward so far have been Oshimen, Isak, Gyokeres and Mbeumo and I think all of them are out of reach. There's some two bob young Asian lad at PSG too apparently

This season has gone. The problem has been known about for a good couple of years now and he has wasted window after window failing to address it

The best decision to make now is not give him any more money to waste, write this season off and then fuck him off
I reckon we'll limp to third or fourth in the league with the usual second round or quarter-final European exit. We'll beat the dross teams at home but drop points against anyone half-organised and lose away to teams like Forest and Everton but it won't matter because we'll be out of the title race really by the end of February. The season will end like so many did between 2008 and 2018 with everyone pissed off and despondent. Arteta will try and write it all off as a result of injuries and bad luck and we'll be back to where we were for the last decade under Wanker with some saying he deserves the chance to try and fix it and the rest of us desperate for change. Don't really know if I can be bothered with another battle and civil war.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:58 pm
SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:18 pm
There's no top striker coming in this month

The names put forward so far have been Oshimen, Isak, Gyokeres and Mbeumo and I think all of them are out of reach. There's some two bob young Asian lad at PSG too apparently

This season has gone. The problem has been known about for a good couple of years now and he has wasted window after window failing to address it

The best decision to make now is not give him any more money to waste, write this season off and then fuck him off
I reckon we'll limp to third or fourth in the league with the usual second round or quarter-final European exit. We'll beat the dross teams at home but drop points against anyone half-organised and lose away to teams like Forest and Everton but it won't matter because we'll be out of the title race really by the end of February. The season will end like so many did between 2008 and 2018 with everyone pissed off and despondent. Arteta will try and write it all off as a result of injuries and bad luck and we'll be back to where we were for the last decade under Wanker with some saying he deserves the chance to try and fix it and the rest of us desperate for change. Don't really know if I can be bothered with another battle and civil war.
25th May 2025 - can we add St Mary's to the list including the Hawthorns and St James's Park where the glorious 4th placed trophy has been won. I think if we can end up swatting Southampton on that final day to finish 4th, it could set us up to defend our Calendar Year Trophy 🏆

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Arteta should go but I can't see the owners having the balls to get rid. After signing the new contract, it will probably take 20-30m to get rid of him and another 10m to get rid of his coaches, that's the new striker gone!! :lol:

If someone does tell him to buy a striker, He'll definitely go for some unknown Spanish bloke with 4 goals in 20 games or something like that.

Fact is, anyone is available at anytime if you pay the right money. Pay peanuts and you get Raheem Sterlings or Yaya Sanogoals!!

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Sterling cost the Chavs 48 million from City (they only paid them 40 million for Cole Palmer).

They were so desperate to get him off their books they agreed to continue to pay 162,500, of his 325,000 a week wage while he is at Arsenal. We "only" have to pay the remaining half. What a bargain!

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Bob Bayliss wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:15 am
Sterling cost the Chavs 48 million from City (they only paid them 40 million for Cole Palmer).

They were so desperate to get him off their books they agreed to continue to pay 162,500, of his 325,000 a week wage while he is at Arsenal. We "only" have to pay the remaining half. What a bargain!
The bloke is absolute gash but in fairness yesterday showed more in 10 minutes than Martinelli or Odegaard did for the whole match!

What a sorry state of affairs

Just get out of our club you legoheaded cock - so far out of his depth even a lifeboat and a buoy couldn't save him

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