Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[Limerick Gooner]

1. Havertz had two clear cut chances. Rice’s effort you’ll see in every game you watch. De Ligt got to the ball on the line before Trossard. Gabriel scored with a deflected shot. That’s it. No, I don’t think that’s normal in over 2 hours of football, I think it’s scant return.

2. You still haven’t told me what you think Amorim’s game plan was. Looks as though you’re ducking the question. Any chance of an answer?

3. Have you ever watched our CWC Final against Parma? If so, what game plan did we use? You seem to be ducking this question too.

Amorim played a low block which we negated by creating 6 clear cut chances.

Yes I did. Live. I recall them hitting the post and Seaman making a good save early on. Once we scored I can’t recall them creating anything clear cut. Unlike the other night where a mistake gifted them their only goal and we created all the chances throughout the game.

So Amorim had a game plan to sit deep and hit us when the opportunity arose….a low block in the modern parlance. Exactly and his plan worked. If you think any team using those tactics won’t face a handful of chances against them in 2 hours of football, then you need to watch more games or follow another sport.

Were you drunk when watching the Parma game live? We set out to defend from minute one and after nicking the goal had our backs to the wall. I can recall chances they had 30 years later.

I’m out now. Annoyed at allowing myself to get drawn in to another of your circuitous, ill informed, bad faith arguments. I need to learn to ignore bollocks posts and obvious wum’s.

I suggest you go back and rewatch the Parma game. Or at least a highlights package. As I have told you already. After we scored they created nothing, unless you are counting shots from distance and corners. We literally snuffed out anything they attempted to create. It was a tactical master class from GG. Amorim did nothing the other night other than get lucky based on our own ineptitude. Now I would appreciate it if you can the WUM chat when you are losing argument after argument.

It’s at times like this that I regret the wanker emoticon being removed from the forum.

Apology accepted. I glad you had time to watch our defensive masterclass from all those years ago. Never besmirch the name of Gorgeous George when claiming some upstart like Amorim played a similar tactical plan.

[OneBardGooner]

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It’s at times like this that I regret the wanker emoticon being removed from the forum.
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Yeah! It was 'useful' wasn't it and saved a lot of time and energy

[Retro Gunner]

Amorim played a low block which we negated by creating 6 clear cut chances.

Yes I did. Live. I recall them hitting the post and Seaman making a good save early on. Once we scored I can’t recall them creating anything clear cut. Unlike the other night where a mistake gifted them their only goal and we created all the chances throughout the game.

So Amorim had a game plan to sit deep and hit us when the opportunity arose….a low block in the modern parlance. Exactly and his plan worked. If you think any team using those tactics won’t face a handful of chances against them in 2 hours of football, then you need to watch more games or follow another sport.

Were you drunk when watching the Parma game live? We set out to defend from minute one and after nicking the goal had our backs to the wall. I can recall chances they had 30 years later.

I’m out now. Annoyed at allowing myself to get drawn in to another of your circuitous, ill informed, bad faith arguments. I need to learn to ignore bollocks posts and obvious wum’s.

I suggest you go back and rewatch the Parma game. Or at least a highlights package. As I have told you already. After we scored they created nothing, unless you are counting shots from distance and corners. We literally snuffed out anything they attempted to create. It was a tactical master class from GG. Amorim did nothing the other night other than get lucky based on our own ineptitude. Now I would appreciate it if you can the WUM chat when you are losing argument after argument.

It’s at times like this that I regret the wanker emoticon being removed from the forum.

Apology accepted. I glad you had time to watch our defensive masterclass from all those years ago. Never besmirch the name of Gorgeous George when claiming some upstart like Amorim played a similar tactical plan.

Mate, please do me a favour and fuck off and stop putting words in people’s mouths.

Amorim came with his defensive plan and it worked. Cry all you want, but facts are facts. How about Eddie Howe? Another lucky fucker when the cruel hand of fate dealt us an unjust blow?

[Retro Gunner]

It’s at times like this that I regret the wanker emoticon being removed from the forum.
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Yeah! It was 'useful' wasn't it and saved a lot of time and energy
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Ain’t that the truth OBG. Still, it’s my fault for getting drawn in and feeding the troll.

[Limerick Gooner]

It’s at times like this that I regret the wanker emoticon being removed from the forum.

Yeah! It was 'useful' wasn't it and saved a lot of time and energy
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Ain’t that the truth OBG. Still, it’s my fault for getting drawn in and feeding the troll.
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I get you are angry. Don’t rewrite history to suit your agenda eh? If I win the Euromillions tonight it’s not luck. It’s a masterful tactical display of picking several random numbers.

[Retro Gunner]

It’s at times like this that I regret the wanker emoticon being removed from the forum.

Yeah! It was 'useful' wasn't it and saved a lot of time and energy

Ain’t that the truth OBG. Still, it’s my fault for getting drawn in and feeding the troll.
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I get you are angry. Don’t rewrite history to suit your agenda eh? If I win the Euromillions tonight it’s not luck. It’s a masterful tactical display of picking several random numbers.
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Fuck me, Five to Limerick, is there no shutting you up?

Errrr….rewriting history?? Remind me, did Utd set up with a “deep block” and leave with the win? Oh yes, they did. I know you’re clueless about the game, but they did a number on us. Get over it, the resentment ain’t healthy.

I’m out.

[the playing mantis]

1. Havertz had two clear cut chances. Rice’s effort you’ll see in every game you watch. De Ligt got to the ball on the line before Trossard. Gabriel scored with a deflected shot. That’s it. No, I don’t think that’s normal in over 2 hours of football, I think it’s scant return.

2. You still haven’t told me what you think Amorim’s game plan was. Looks as though you’re ducking the question. Any chance of an answer?

3. Have you ever watched our CWC Final against Parma? If so, what game plan did we use? You seem to be ducking this question too.

Amorim played a low block which we negated by creating 6 clear cut chances.

Yes I did. Live. I recall them hitting the post and Seaman making a good save early on. Once we scored I can’t recall them creating anything clear cut. Unlike the other night where a mistake gifted them their only goal and we created all the chances throughout the game.

So Amorim had a game plan to sit deep and hit us when the opportunity arose….a low block in the modern parlance. Exactly and his plan worked. If you think any team using those tactics won’t face a handful of chances against them in 2 hours of football, then you need to watch more games or follow another sport.

Were you drunk when watching the Parma game live? We set out to defend from minute one and after nicking the goal had our backs to the wall. I can recall chances they had 30 years later.

I’m out now. Annoyed at allowing myself to get drawn in to another of your circuitous, ill informed, bad faith arguments. I need to learn to ignore bollocks posts and obvious wum’s.

I suggest you go back and rewatch the Parma game. Or at least a highlights package. As I have told you already. After we scored they created nothing, unless you are counting shots from distance and corners. We literally snuffed out anything they attempted to create. It was a tactical master class from GG. Amorim did nothing the other night other than get lucky based on our own ineptitude. Now I would appreciate it if you can the WUM chat when you are losing argument after argument.

It’s at times like this that I regret the wanker emoticon being removed from the forum.

'The Augie' one does a fair approximation from memory?! If you squint a bit

[Limerick Gooner]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

[Retro Gunner]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

Mate, there you go again, you’re absolutely nuts.

I’ll challenge you to find one post where I’ve said Arteta will be sacked, just one. I’ve said he should be if we win fuck all this season, but have been very clear that he won’t be. I’ve also been very clear that I think he’s got 2-3 more years even if they’re unproductive. So once again, you don’t read what people say, but just project your nonsense and misrepresent/misquote.

Nothing that I think will happen will happen eh? Tell me what I think will happen, but it won’t be based on anything I’ve written on here, but only from your own fevered brain. As for the board being detached from the fanbase…really?? We’ll blow me, who have thought that? Thanks for the heads up.

You’ll find very few on here who think Arteta will be gone anytime soon or who think the Kroenkes are in tune with the support, but of course, you know what we all think and to hell with what we actually say.

You also seem to think that me and the majority on here are basing our opinions on the Utd game alone. We’ve seen this coming and predicted most of it. I’ve said in here more than once that he’s improved things, but he blew it over the last two summers and any good work he’s done is coming apart at the seams. He’s done, it’s over for him and the remainder of this season will be grim. Sadly, unless it’s an off the scale disaster, he’s not getting sacked and no one thinks so.

You really are an arrogant, condescending and judgemental clown. Most of the guys on here have forgotten more about the game than you’ll ever know and you dismiss their comments and reshape them to suit your bonkers narrative. Given the way that you constantly ignore what people say and quote them as saying something entirely different, I genuinely think you might need psychiatric help. For your sake, I hope it’s just moronic wumming.

That really is it from me. I can’t waste anymore time on the bollocks you come out with.

[OneBardGooner]

[Gunner Rob]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

I think it is fair to say that Arteta contributed to the general improvement of the club during the past 2 seasons, (although I would argue that being able to play Saka week in week out was a more significant factor) but you can hardly say the past 5 years have been very successful. This is Arsenal FC - this is a club that during its long history has consistently WON trophies. Arteta has not won anything in the past 4 seasons and is highly unlikely to this season either.

As for this season then I’m afraid to say that Arteta has taken us backwards. I also fear for the future, because the current state of the squad is a mess. We have no strikers, bang average midfielders and injury prone defenders. This is not improvement, it is deterioration.

[SteveO 35]

TWO RED MEMBERS....THERES ONLY TWO RED MEMBERS



Hope our captain isn't up all night with that pesky baby....I mean he's bound to miss a penalty and be total dog shit again if that happens

[Retro Gunner]

TWO RED MEMBERS....THERES ONLY TWO RED MEMBERS



Hope our captain isn't up all night with that pesky baby....I mean he's bound to miss a penalty and be total dog shit again if that happens

There’s me warning you the other day that he’s a wum and best ignored and then like an absolute fool I take the bait, knowing full well I shouldn’t and I get drawn in.

The conversations are surreal, full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations. The bloke is irrational in the extreme and I was actually serious when I mentioned psychiatric issues. It got to the point where I couldn’t be arsed to read the thread back, but couldn’t remember what the argument was originally about and what sparked him off.

[Limerick Gooner]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

Mate, there you go again, you’re absolutely nuts.

I’ll challenge you to find one post where I’ve said Arteta will be sacked, just one. I’ve said he should be if we win fuck all this season, but have been very clear that he won’t be. I’ve also been very clear that I think he’s got 2-3 more years even if they’re unproductive. So once again, you don’t read what people say, but just project your nonsense and misrepresent/misquote.

Nothing that I think will happen will happen eh? Tell me what I think will happen, but it won’t be based on anything I’ve written on here, but only from your own fevered brain. As for the board being detached from the fanbase…really?? We’ll blow me, who have thought that? Thanks for the heads up.

You’ll find very few on here who think Arteta will be gone anytime soon or who think the Kroenkes are in tune with the support, but of course, you know what we all think and to hell with what we actually say.

You also seem to think that me and the majority on here are basing our opinions on the Utd game alone. We’ve seen this coming and predicted most of it. I’ve said in here more than once that he’s improved things, but he blew it over the last two summers and any good work he’s done is coming apart at the seams. He’s done, it’s over for him and the remainder of this season will be grim. Sadly, unless it’s an off the scale disaster, he’s not getting sacked and no one thinks so.

You really are an arrogant, condescending and judgemental clown. Most of the guys on here have forgotten more about the game than you’ll ever know and you dismiss their comments and reshape them to suit your bonkers narrative. Given the way that you constantly ignore what people say and quote them as saying something entirely different, I genuinely think you might need psychiatric help. For your sake, I hope it’s just moronic wumming.

That really is it from me. I can’t waste anymore time on the bollocks you come out with.

Spitalfields you say? How about we have a pint one lunchtime. I’ll pop out from my office. Be there in 5 minutes.

[SteveO 35]

TWO RED MEMBERS....THERES ONLY TWO RED MEMBERS



Hope our captain isn't up all night with that pesky baby....I mean he's bound to miss a penalty and be total dog shit again if that happens

There’s me warning you the other day that he’s a wum and best ignored and then like an absolute fool I take the bait, knowing full well I shouldn’t and I get drawn in.

The conversations are surreal, full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations. The bloke is irrational in the extreme and I was actually serious when I mentioned psychiatric issues. It got to the point where I couldn’t be arsed to read the thread back, but couldn’t remember what the argument was originally about and what sparked him off.

The Odegaard baby thing is classic Red Member

Could it be a return of the greatest WUM in the forums history? I'm guessing a Johan Djourou or Denilson reference might be too obvious