ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[General]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

[rodders999]

Read the other day that 75% of their goals this season have either been scored or assisted by Salah - absolutely mental.

It's not like they've wrapped the crown jewels in cotton wool either, Van Dijk and Salah are their players with the most minutes this season, they've beasted them both but have had zero issues with injuries. They're on an incredible run of luck, logic says it can't continue but here we are.

[Retro Gunner]

Seriously mate, finding an upgrade on Havertz would be the easiest assignment a scout could have. Wouldn’t have to go any further than Hackney Marshes.

I guess it’s all about opinions, but I haven’t seen the physicality you refer to. He’s wary of challenges in the air and will jump into the defender with his back to him, rather than make a genuine effort to challenge for the ball and he hardly throws his weight around in tackles. Gives away a lot of niggly free kicks, but he has no physical presence.

Still, you’re quite entitled to your opinion of course.

I remember years ago some very nice players would turn up at Hackney Marshes on a sunday morning - do their thing - & bugger off to the 'Feathers' for a couple of pints of light & bitter !. Most of them would piss all over 'Avit'.
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As you’ll remember Ray, it was a huge area absolutely full of football pitches. Sadly, it hasn’t been like that for decades.

[A11M11]

I can remember remembrance Sunday on the marshes . Aged about 10 .The 2 minutes silence pissing down with sleet with the wind blowing a gale off the river Lea ,hands so cold couldn't pull your socks up or tie your boot laces .
When people complain about the cold , they haven't got a clue. Not to mention the cold water in the cow sheds if the taps weren't frozen.

[gooner265]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

The other 4 have 25 goals between them all important and match winning

[Retro Gunner]

Cheaty spent 200 million this window and no doubt they’ll go absolutely batshit crazy again in the summer and be off into the sunset next season. 115 is dead, bought off in litigation - time to move on.

This was the chance, just like Leicester was the chance. That season we only brought in helmet head and paid the price, this time it was Neto, Merino and Sterling and the price will be paid yet again.

We’ve learned fuck all, so near and yet so far

Yes, but remember, Helmet Head was worth at least 12 points per season to us…..oh, hold on…………

[General]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

The other 4 have 25 goals between them all important and match winning

Havertz, Martinelli, Trossard and Saka have 24 PL goals between them. 27 if you add Jesus. Salah has scored almost 40% of their PL goals and created many more. I think Rodders said 75% if you combine goals and assists. That’s insane. He’s undoubtedly the difference maker.

[Retro Gunner]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

No, they’re really not.

Havertz has the rare ability to make even Nuñez look like Pele.

[General]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

No, they’re really not.

Havertz has the rare ability to make even Nuñez look like Pele.

Yes they are. I hate to break it to you and I do quite like the look of Gakpo, but Havertz has outscored every single one of them. Salah is single handedly carrying their attack

[Retro Gunner]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

The other 4 have 25 goals between them all important and match winning

Havertz, Martinelli, Trossard and Saka have 24 PL goals between them. 27 if you add Jesus. Salah has scored almost 40% of their PL goals and created many more. I think Rodders said 75% if you combine goals and assists. That’s insane. He’s undoubtedly the difference maker.

I don’t think anyone is doubting that Salah is truly world class and would make a difference to any side.

However, for all those assists, you need strikers who can put the ball away. We have Havertz and Jesus. They’d soon fuck up Salah’s stats.

I also think that Gooner 265 was referencing central strikers, centre forwards, not wide attacking players, so his point was that we’ve replaced Auba and Laca with the duds Havertz and Jesus and failed to improve on that.

Any of Jota, Gakpo and Diaz can play through the middle and all are far more of a threat than our two. Even the flop Nuñez is no worse than our duffers. I genuinely find it embarrassing to watch Havertz. Doesn’t help that Chelsea supporters I know piss themselves laughing that we bought him (for 60 million ffs!!).

[Retro Gunner]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

No, they’re really not.

Havertz has the rare ability to make even Nuñez look like Pele.

Yes they are. I hate to break it to you and I do quite like the look of Gakpo, but Havertz has outscored every single one of them. Salah is single handedly carrying their attack

Another disingenuous use of stats. How many starts have they had and what’s the goals to minutes played?

Bottom line, if you can watch the players and not discern who’s the least able footballer, then, with respect, you’re maybe watching the wrong sport.

[OneBardGooner]

[General]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

The other 4 have 25 goals between them all important and match winning

Havertz, Martinelli, Trossard and Saka have 24 PL goals between them. 27 if you add Jesus. Salah has scored almost 40% of their PL goals and created many more. I think Rodders said 75% if you combine goals and assists. That’s insane. He’s undoubtedly the difference maker.

I don’t think anyone is doubting that Salah is truly world class and would make a difference to any side.

However, for all those assists, you need strikers who can put the ball away. We have Havertz and Jesus. They’d soon fuck up Salah’s stats.

I also think that Gooner 265 was referencing central strikers, centre forwards, not wide attacking players, so his point was that we’ve replaced Auba and Laca with the duds Havertz and Jesus and failed to improve on that.

Any of Jota, Gakpo and Diaz can play through the middle and all are far more of a threat than our two. Even the flop Nuñez is no worse than our duffers. I genuinely find it embarrassing to watch Havertz. Doesn’t help that Chelsea supporters I know piss themselves laughing that we bought him (for 60 million ffs!!).

Once again, you are turning a straight forward factual point into a merry go round debate.

We can all agree that Havertz is not the elite striker we need if we want to win major trophies. This is not in dispute.

However, it is disgenenous to say that Liverpool have an array of talent upfront to nick the points when Havertz is outscoring all their central strikers. This is the point Gooner265 was making which I responded to. He then went on to state the goal output of Liverpool's strikers when our lads are matching their numbers if not producing more. Diaz and Gakpo have played more minutes but producing less than Havertz.
So despite benefitting from the services of a world class creator like Salah, Liverpool's strikers are producing less output than Havertz. Ergo, we are back to the original point that Salah is the difference maker and if you stick him in our attack, we'd almost certainly be comfortably on top of the league.

[General]

Sold Laca and Auba and in 11 transfer windows we haven't replaced either of them with a genuine striker utterly baffling and could cost us trophies.
I get he wants Sesko but you have to have a 2nd and 3rd choice with your transfer strategy. Spunky was on the radio the other day saying he knows we've been trying to sign a striker since the summer but can't get any he wants over the line, who they are I've no idea . You can't tell me you can't sign a genuine goalscorer in 11 windows , the reason Liverpool are top is they have an array of talent up front to nick the points , they aren't anything special ,if we had the same we'd be top.

Salah, they have Salah. The rest of their attacking options are similar to ours.

No, they’re really not.

Havertz has the rare ability to make even Nuñez look like Pele.

Yes they are. I hate to break it to you and I do quite like the look of Gakpo, but Havertz has outscored every single one of them. Salah is single handedly carrying their attack

Another disingenuous use of stats. How many starts have they had and what’s the goals to minutes played?

Bottom line, if you can watch the players and not discern who’s the least able footballer, then, with respect, you’re maybe watching the wrong sport.

It's only disingenuous because it doesn't meet your confirmation bias scale.
Frank Lampard was a limited footballer but his numbers and application were better than than other acclaimed midfielders.
Any recognition of Havertz' contribution and you get flamed as if we all don't agree that we need an elite striker. It is possible to admit his shortcomings and at the same time acknowledge that he is outperforming other strikers who according to you are better than him.

[Limerick Gooner]

So what do we need in the Summer?

Striker, winger and Zubimendi?