New seats at Arsenal = more fans and income (18/6)

Post by **gooner.ed** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:46 am

Usual thread starter. Interesting thought, but letâ€™s face it. All the health and safety rules will surely dictate that the capacity of the stadium has to remain at its current level. The seats at the new stadium are undoubtedly comfy, but they are a pain in the butt if you have someone with a weak bladder in your row, or indeed early leaversâ€¦ but letâ€™s not go there again!

thegrovegooner · Post by **thegrovegooner** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:08 am

i think that the council only granted permission for a 60,000 capacity due to transport links and health and saftey issues (we applied for 80'000). so despite the good theory i won't happen.

Blackred · Post by **Blackred** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:40 am

It's a good suggestion but one I'm sure Arsenal are well aware of.

The planning permission thing is a stumbling block, but there's no reason we can't apply to expand after a few seasons, provided everything runs smoothly between then and now.

Blackred · Post by **Blackred** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:48 am

It's a good suggestion but one I'm sure Arsenal are well aware of.

The planning permission thing is a stumbling block, but there's no reason we can't apply to expand after a few seasons, provided everything runs smoothly between then and now.

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:40 pm

Hope we get the transport issues sorted before we think of expanding!!

I'd love to know how Arsenal rates in terms of square metres per fan compared with other Prem clubs. I remember how uncomfortable I was the last time I visited Old Trafford with them squeezing in at least 6 for every 4 seats at the Grove. It should at least mean that we could expand in the future without the need for major rework.

If we were to do something a little more radical then I'd favour taking out some Club Class & boxes at the North End and having just one continuous stand behind the goal. Small terrace at the bottom. Cheap to implement, increases capacity and atmosphere. To maximise revenue we could even expand the club level along the side.

Sammy Mooner · Post by **Sammy Mooner** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:56 pm

It's an awful suggestion - the sort that could only be made by a ****ing accountant. Having waited 50 years to find any stadium in the UK with a comfortable seat as soon as I get one then someone wants to throw it away and make it smaller. Have you ever sat in the narrow pinched seats at Old Trafford or smashed your knees up at Villa Park?

A far simpler way to make more income would be to take out whole blocks of seats behind the goal altogether and have standing sections. Safety wouldn't be an issue. I'd estimate that three times the number could be comforatably accommodated in total safety.

Then again if you really want to see some huge armchairs that could do with a reduction in size - go and have a look at the Diamond Club seats - they could easily fit in another 100 Diamond Club members!

But why exactly would the Club want even more income? Wenger is unlikely to spend it anyway.

Ben-gooner14 · Post by **Ben-gooner14** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:16 pm

Get rid of club level seats and make complete stands.

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:41 pm

Club Level seats = BIG MONEY!!! There is no way that Arsenal are going to reduce the number of them in the stadium!!

PS and yes, I admit it, I am an Accountant.......

Ben-gooner14 · Post by **Ben-gooner14** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:49 pm

See what you mean now 15,000 times Â£50 for amount of ticket roughly is Â£750,000 and I see them getting a lot more for Club level seats than that.

All_Arsenal_1886 · Post by **All_Arsenal_1886** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:23 pm

Arsenal said once plans were finalised that they could of had an extra 20,000 seats but Arsene Wenger said 60,000 would be better something to do with atmosphe but im not sure what

Post by **Belfast Boy** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:36 am

Yeah there was planning restrictions on the height of the stadium I think it had to be under 50 mtrs and maybe Aw thought 60,000 was enough and anyone whos been in the upper reaches of the atmosphere at OT or the Nou Camp it's hard to find fault with that!
So to compete they decided to make a very comfortable arena with loads of exec boxes and club level seats and with it bein London they could charge premium rates for the stands as well, and it was actually the dearest season tickets which sold out first, all this revenue keeps the gate on a par with far larger stadiums!

All_Arsenal_1886 · Post by **All_Arsenal_1886** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:22 am

I love my seat at the grove theres no way i would like to go back to having the old highbury seats

oh and im not a snob i just like my comfort

Chunky The Gooner · Post by **Chunky The Gooner** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:44 am

Being slightly big the last thing I want again is the old shitty little seats where you legs were crushed into the seat infront

Muncun · Post by **Muncun** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:42 am

Yes i'm an accountant & yes i suggested the idea.
The only thing i agreed with was the transport problem.
For those that like their seats, by changing some of the seats you would get a choice of large or small and pay accordingly. And in my humble opinion the seats shouldn't matter, we should be standing and singing.
For those that want to do that, small seats shouldn't be an issue. An extra 10000 fans wanting to do that would help create a hell of an atmosphere in the ground.
I go every week and the atmosphere can be great example - CC 2nd leg v Spurs was awesome. And why? The seats were cheap and many fans who ordinarily can't go because of the high prices could go. Loads of the old songs from the days of terracing at Highbury were being sung.

Muncun · Post by **Muncun** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:46 am

Yes i'm an accountant & yes i suggested the idea.
The only thing i agreed with was the transport problem.
For those that like their seats, by changing some of the seats you would get a choice of large or small and pay accordingly. And in my humble opinion the seats shouldn't matter, we should be standing and singing.
For those that want to do that, small seats shouldn't be an issue. An extra 10000 fans wanting to do that would help create a hell of an atmosphere in the ground.
I go every week and the atmosphere can be great example - CC 2nd leg v Spurs was awesome. And why? The seats were cheap and many fans who ordinarily can't go because of the high prices could go. Loads of the old songs from the days of terracing at Highbury were being sung.