Injuries

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Nick Nack
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Re: Injuries

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:00 pm
TeeCee wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:52 am
Like how the fuck can he have fucked it up so bad to be out the rest of the season , give him 4 weeks and he will be back .
Mate do you understand the different hamstring problems there can be? A simple strain can be, 2-4 weeks out, a tear can be 3 months or more and if it detaches from the bone, like Saka's was rumored to be, it can even be 6 months out even if it heals well. Scarring can cause big additional problems.

It sounds like Havertz has a bad tear so it's several months out.
This was caused by Arteta running high pressing drills in Dubai, working the socks off a guy who needed rest, not an extreme workout! After the Wolves game recently, Havertz collapsed to the floor at the final whistle so exhausted, he needed physio's to help him get to his feet. Arteta is braindead when it comes to player welfare and he flogs them continuously evidently, these bad injuries are almost all down to him, no-one else.
Playing Saka against Preston in the 3rd round of the league cup? Fucking madness!
According to Legohead the training drills had finished and he hurt himself blocking a shot.....yeah, like we all believe that. Very rare that a hamstring goes as a result of blocking a shot. Like you say, it's these high press drills and basically over working an already exhausted player. Fucking ridiculous and its ended our season, just as Liverpool might be having a mini wobble
Arsenteta is a an absolute fucking idiot and this shows him up as the fucking novice he is.

At this stage of the season players have match fitness and do not need high intensity training. Training should be light and just keeping them fit for matches. Players who continually pick up injuries will barely train at the back end of the season.

To do high intensity drills is gross negligence and mismanagement.

I have no issue with going to Dubai for light warming weather training but this clown is running players into the ground.

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I'm surprised Havertz lasted until February without getting injured when you consider he was Arteta's only option up front :shock:
Up until Jesus scored a few goals in December, Arteta had him rooted to the bench, which meant overplaying Havertz. A manager with even the basic level of planning would know that even an average striker was needed to be another body in the squad but this cùnt follows the Wenger method of not being told what to do.
Anyone who thinks we're getting an out and out CF in the summer is delusional, it will be someone who can play out wide or in the middle of a front 3, if needed. Even being the clueless twat that Wenger was, he at least knew a striker was important in his squad.

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With so many attacking players injured it’s clear we’ll struggle to score many goals. We evidently can’t afford to concede many either so I think it shows incredible forward planning by arteta to stock up on so many defensive midfielders and defenders/left backs.

Trust the process! :barscarf:

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:00 pm
TeeCee wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:52 am
Like how the fuck can he have fucked it up so bad to be out the rest of the season , give him 4 weeks and he will be back .
Mate do you understand the different hamstring problems there can be? A simple strain can be, 2-4 weeks out, a tear can be 3 months or more and if it detaches from the bone, like Saka's was rumored to be, it can even be 6 months out even if it heals well. Scarring can cause big additional problems.

It sounds like Havertz has a bad tear so it's several months out.
This was caused by Arteta running high pressing drills in Dubai, working the socks off a guy who needed rest, not an extreme workout! After the Wolves game recently, Havertz collapsed to the floor at the final whistle so exhausted, he needed physio's to help him get to his feet. Arteta is braindead when it comes to player welfare and he flogs them continuously evidently, these bad injuries are almost all down to him, no-one else.
Playing Saka against Preston in the 3rd round of the league cup? Fucking madness!
According to Legohead the training drills had finished and he hurt himself blocking a shot.....yeah, like we all believe that. Very rare that a hamstring goes as a result of blocking a shot. Like you say, it's these high press drills and basically over working an already exhausted player. Fucking ridiculous and its ended our season, just as Liverpool might be having a mini wobble
Presumably, we did these drills during the last trip to Dubai and this was just a repeat. What Arteta failed to recognise this time around is that a lot of these players were in the red zone due to excessive workload and lack of options and the training should’ve been adjusted to suit. His management of the Newcastle second leg was negligence of the highest order and if he had an ounce of foresight, he would’ve seen the Havertz injury coming. I’m even surprised Rice hasn’t gone down yet.
Coaches generally like to work with small squads as it creates a more intimate environment and I have a feeling Arteta is perversely enjoying this like the tactical masochist that he is.

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Tomiyashu misses start of next season.

Contrary to some I think he's a decent player when fit.

That's the issue. He clearly never will be at least at arsenal.

Which mentalist handed him m a pay rise and extended deal not long ago despite him being injured...

F me self harm FC at it again

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🚨 Arsenal say Takehiro Tomiyasu is expected to return following his knee surgery at the end of 2025.

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:05 pm
🚨 Arsenal say Takehiro Tomiyasu is expected to return following his knee surgery at the end of 2025.
He's been out near enough all season and has only just gone under the knife now? WTF are they playing at!! Jeez, get rid asap.

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We only extended the sick note c.unts contract last year :banghead:

The fucking Japanese Diaby.

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Isn’t this knee injury separate from the numerous hamstring injuries he’s picked up in recent years. Even when fully fit, he’s an average defender and wouldn’t look out of place at Palace

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:05 pm
🚨 Arsenal say Takehiro Tomiyasu is expected to return following his knee surgery at the end of 2025.
Did they replace his whole knee?

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rodders999 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:05 pm
We only extended the sick note c.unts contract last year :banghead:

The fucking Japanese Diaby.
His joints are constructed from origami. :barscarf:

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What gets me is he's been injured since August,and it's only now that they decided to try and solve the issue 😕

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I heard he's had mental health issues it may be utter bllx.

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the playing mantis wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:44 pm
I heard he's had mental health issues it may be utter bllx.
I was listening to a podcast today they mentioned his mother passed away recently, so there could be some issues with mental health

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Yes saw that and also attributed to the apparent Japanese character of feeling bad taking a wage whilst not working.

Could pseudo bllx.

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