To be honest after reading that pile of utter nonsense I think you might have mental issues. No insult intended, genuinely I think that might be the case. There is literally not one word of truth in your post. It's just a mental rant based on ignorance and no knowledge or reality whatsoever.General wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:32 pmIt’s actually very offensive that you call genuine debate wumming and it calls into question your judgement. You regularly turn a blind eye to the real wumming because it supports your Arteta out disposition. This is clear for all to see in the manner you predictably endorse negative posts with enthusiasm. Just look at the quality of some of the posts leading to our biggest game of the season. Reall gutter stuff but you won’t call it out and we know why.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:36 amYou really are slightly delusional aren't you? Or at the very least blinkered.
Read back through the threads. You've never once had anyone on here genuinely in knots with a legitimate argument. You've twisted their responses, put words in their mouths, moved the goalposts, contradicted yourself, and ignored challenging responses or questions, when proven wrong. You do that literally all the time.
Off the top of my head, have a read back through the "GG paid top wages" debate we had. I literally proved you completely wrong with evidence from his players and news articles and other posters backing my argument, and you twisted and turned, misquoted me, mived the goalposts and started talking about pay after GG had left, etc etc etc....
I do agree this place needs more than one viewpoint and have always thrived to ensure that. To be honest I've often let the more positive posters bend the rules and even break them for longer than I should have in an effort to try and keep the forum from being just one viewpoint.
Unfortunately the posters with that more blindly positive viewpoint almost always resorts to calling people disloyal or not proper fans or disappear off the forum for months while things go wrong and then reappear to post "I told you so" when we have one really decent or brilliant result like last night. And then promptly disappear again when it inevitably all goes to shit again.
And trust me, if you start up the full on WUMing again I won't hesitate.
You rarely acknowledge a positive post which is quite odd because you sat on the fence during the Wenger out campaign and I’ve said this before. You even made the bold claim that Kroenke would never sack Wenger unless we faced relegation. Yes of course, you will mention the secret forum you created to support the cause etc, but it was well known within the inner circle that you secretly resented the campaign, and I have the WhatsApp messages to prove. Years later, you still deride the effectiveness of the protests and credit Wenger’s leaving to apathy. What you forget is that without anger and protests, there would’ve been no apathy or empty seats. One led to the other. We now have a young caoch who’s managed to undo most of the damage Wenger left behind and you suddenly want him out because he doesn’t meet your high standards. The high standards you were happy to disregard when it suited you.
It's also funny you mention the Graham debate. I acknowledged that historically poor wages was an issue, but Dein resolved this in the last few years before Graham left. I pointed out to you that Keown who had left due to a wage dispute returned for a lot of money. We didn’t even need another defender at the time, but the funds were made available. You saw reference to us paying top wages, completely ignored the context and run with it. Again, another symptom of your tendency for black and white thinking.
I wholeheartedly disagree that you strive to encourage opposing viewpoints. Far from it, and the proof is in the pudding with most of the positive posters all gone or only appear intermittently. The Wenger out debacle already took out a large chunk with posters like Mark 1/2p etc deactivating their account. You’ve allowed the forum to become polarised by consistently siding with one view and if you think targeting people like me, whether directly or by proxy is going to improve the current state of affairs, then please go ahead.
It's almost slanderous, ffs.
In one puff of air you accuse me of condoning a certain type of post and in the next you blame me for not preventing another kind of post. Neither of which is true. I don't dictate what people post. But if you are going to post blind rubbish you will be challenged on here. That's what a forum is.
Also, what the fuck has WhatsApp got to do with it? The "inner circle"? You're trying to make out you were some kind of leader of the rebellion or something? You weren't even on here until 2017 and I can't recall you being involved in fuck all tbh.
You talk about black and white views and then spout moronic rubbish like I was apparently pro Wenger because I wasn't directly involved in organising the Wenger out campaign and "sat on the fence" and "secretly resented the campaign"?
Sorry but that is the dribbling rubbish of a deluded person.
The reason a lot of the decent posters (not necessarily "positive" there is a huge difference) have left (and I know this as fact from their own mouths) is that poor quality posters like you and the poisonous little reptile that was Armchair, ruined so many threads by posting poor quality arguments, then twisting other people's responses, moving the goalposts, resorted to telling people they were not real fans, etc etc etc....
The reason alot of the so called "positive" posters left is because they could not back up their arguments and were shown up for lacking any football knowledge and so they stormed off in a hissy fit. The few that could put up a good debate are still here.
Finally, you don't do "genuine debate". That has been proven numerous times and is there for all to see.
This thread is so demonstrative of the sum total of your "contributions" on here. A quick read of your posting history shows a plethora of pointless twisting arguments where you spit out half truths, lies, misquote people, and basically provoke endless rows with numerous other posters - and it makes reading threads containing your posts torturous.
Tbh I'm pretty much done with your nonsense. Respond with whatever garbage you want. I will be watching your posts alot closer from now on and any WUMing will result in a ban. Not a "threat", just a statement of fact. Post whatever you want within the rules and you'll be fine.
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