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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
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9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
28
27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
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44%
 
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Conte would win us something. Ex Spurs and Chavs but is a pure winner.

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I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage

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augie wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:03 pm
I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage
Cesc can go and fuck himself, in my opinion. Plus, his status would be that of another Arteta among most of our fans (an unsackable nearly saviour who just needs “one more season”).

Fully agree on Allegri. Personally, I’d go after one of Enrique or Inzaghi.

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:08 pm
augie wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:03 pm
I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage
Cesc can go and fuck himself, in my opinion. Plus, his status would be that of another Arteta among most of our fans (an unsackable nearly saviour who just needs “one more season”).

Fully agree on Allegri. Personally, I’d go after one of Enrique or Inzaghi.
100%


But would they come to Arsenal...?

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:08 pm
augie wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:03 pm
I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage
Cesc can go and fuck himself, in my opinion. Plus, his status would be that of another Arteta among most of our fans (an unsackable nearly saviour who just needs “one more season”).

Fully agree on Allegri. Personally, I’d go after one of Enrique or Inzaghi.

There was a story a few weeks ago about Inzaghi saying he’d love to manage the Arsenal. Could have been bollocks, but I’d take him tomorrow.

Still, we can’t get rid of Cone Boy, because y’know, “who else is there??” :roll:

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 12:15 pm
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:08 pm
augie wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:03 pm
I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage
Cesc can go and fuck himself, in my opinion. Plus, his status would be that of another Arteta among most of our fans (an unsackable nearly saviour who just needs “one more season”).

Fully agree on Allegri. Personally, I’d go after one of Enrique or Inzaghi.

There was a story a few weeks ago about Inzaghi saying he’d love to manage the Arsenal. Could have been bollocks, but I’d take him tomorrow.

Still, we can’t get rid of Cone Boy, because y’know, “who else is there??” :roll:
I'm just waiting for Mad Marty The Cusp Wilson 2.0 to finally come back on here and do a massive "I told you so" after our trophy laden season under our "irreplaceable" manag- oh, right. :roll:

:wink:

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augie wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:03 pm
I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage
I know you are being tongue in cheek here (Christ I hope so anyway!) but there's no way in flying fuck do I want Vieira as our manager.

As for Henry and the chav rat fabregas, it's not even a comedy consideration as they have zero experience as managers.

Enrique, Allegri, Inzaghi or Simeone - or even Ancelotti at the age he is now - would all be a huge improvement on Temu Pep, let's be honest.

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 9:51 pm
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:08 pm
augie wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:03 pm
I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage
Cesc can go and fuck himself, in my opinion. Plus, his status would be that of another Arteta among most of our fans (an unsackable nearly saviour who just needs “one more season”).

Fully agree on Allegri. Personally, I’d go after one of Enrique or Inzaghi.
100%


But would they come to Arsenal...?
Given the financial backing the cone layer has received over the last few years and the fact we’re a decent top side, I don’t doubt that we’d be an attractive prospect for any good manager in the game. We’ve also got a sporting director who seems to have some standing in the European game, so I’m sure that would work to our advantage.

The reality is that we should start acting like the club we want/ought to be and go after the top managers. We don’t always have to go after the footballing equivalent of a PE teacher.

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 3:23 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 9:51 pm
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:08 pm
augie wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 8:03 pm
I'd take allegri or PV4 or cesc or henry and probably about a dozen others at this stage
Cesc can go and fuck himself, in my opinion. Plus, his status would be that of another Arteta among most of our fans (an unsackable nearly saviour who just needs “one more season”).

Fully agree on Allegri. Personally, I’d go after one of Enrique or Inzaghi.
100%


But would they come to Arsenal...?
Given the financial backing the cone layer has received over the last few years and the fact we’re a decent top side, I don’t doubt that we’d be an attractive prospect for any good manager in the game. We’ve also got a sporting director who seems to have some standing in the European game, so I’m sure that would work to our advantage.

The reality is that we should start acting like the club we want/ought to be and go after the top managers. We don’t always have to go after the footballing equivalent of a PE teacher.
Agreed 100%.

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I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt for this season. Whilst I don't buy into all this shit he's been talking about how well we've done in the circumstances (citing Man Ure and Spurs indirectly for their shitness), something went wrong upstairs with Edu leaving and we suffered 2 awful transfer windows. He's part of that problem but I also accept in modern football its a team game when it comes to getting deals done

We move on to this Summer - get the players we need and I'll suspend final judgement till later in the season, but if we don't and we end up playing this slow paced ***** again without a proper CF then the whole lot of them including him can well and truly go f+++ themselves

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A novice should never have been appointed and it’s an embarrassment that a club of our supposed stature has gifted Arteta 5+ years to try to learn the trade.

He peaked last season and with the same squad, plus a couple of bang average additions that he wanted, we have regressed significantly this term.

He needs to go and a genuinely big club with big club ambitions would now cut him loose. We won’t of course. We’re in the midst of another Wenger cycle.

This transfer window will be defining. I’m not optimistic.

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Something came up on my social media feed algorithm,a typical hipster podcast with 3 football “experts”,but they went through a hit and miss scenario with Arteta’s buys,and I’d completely forgotten some of the rubbish he’s bought to the club,and there were probably 90% of them as transfer misses which I agreed with,I think Gabriel,Timber,Raya and Rice were hits,a few with the jury still out,(White,Havertz) but mainly players like Soares,Mari,Lokongo,Tavares and Marquinhos were misses,the misses outweighed the hits by maybe 4-1,it was pretty damming

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Everyone that has even a small clue about the game can see we have needed a striker of quality for years. Arteta to choose to ignore the absolute obvious that a quality forward minimum added to a left winger have been required to give us a real chance to win a title and help take the burden off Saka is so blindingly obvious.

Nketiah, Jesus and Havertz have been our main options the last four seasons combined, poor to bang average in quality.

Jesus at best 10-12 goals a season striker, three seasons with us, with injuries returns of 11, 4 and 3 PL goals.

Havertz at best 10-15 goals a season striker slightly better, returns of 13 last season, 9 this in 23 games so maybe 15 if not injured but simply not enough firepower.

Arteta and Berta have to this summer hang their hat on the striker that will at least get 20 PL goals, 14 draws,4 defeats many of them games we have either not scored or only once, it's make or break time.

Just checked 18 PL games 24/5 we have either not scored or only once, real wasted opportunity this season and thats on Arteta and the board.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon May 26, 2025 1:21 pm
A novice should never have been appointed and it’s an embarrassment that a club of our supposed stature has gifted Arteta 5+ years to try to learn the trade.

He peaked last season and with the same squad, plus a couple of bang average additions that he wanted, we have regressed significantly this term.

He needs to go and a genuinely big club with big club ambitions would now cut him loose. We won’t of course. We’re in the midst of another Wenger cycle.

This transfer window will be defining. I’m not optimistic.

Was going to post but no point as you've blootered it out the park for a home run here Retro 8)

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falkirk goon wrote:
Mon May 26, 2025 4:38 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Mon May 26, 2025 1:21 pm
A novice should never have been appointed and it’s an embarrassment that a club of our supposed stature has gifted Arteta 5+ years to try to learn the trade.

He peaked last season and with the same squad, plus a couple of bang average additions that he wanted, we have regressed significantly this term.

He needs to go and a genuinely big club with big club ambitions would now cut him loose. We won’t of course. We’re in the midst of another Wenger cycle.

This transfer window will be defining. I’m not optimistic.

Was going to post but no point as you've blootered it out the park for a home run here Retro 8)

Maybe that’s the answer Falky….we should give up on Lego Head’s crap and start following baseball.

🎼 Take me out to the ball game, Take me out to the crowd, Buy me some peanuts and crackerjack, I don’t care if I never get back……🎼

:lol: :( :suicide:

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