Marcus,
Of course, you can decide for yourself who you want to consider a legend. However, the irony I was pin-pointing was the fact that you chose to highlight Wrighty's transfer demand rather than a couple of other, more serious issues with Wright that have been pointed out by other contributors. I mean even Tony Adams, probably our second best ever captain (behind Frank), considered joining Man Utd in the early 90's and made threats to leave Arsenal if he didn't get the money he felt he deserved - albeit not on telly. And we don't need to rehash other off-the- field problems he had whilst at the club. Yet no-one sensible would exclude him from a list of Arsenal legends. You admit that the lines can become blurred and it's a matter of degrees as well as personal tastes, I suppose.
Also, you have to remember that he probably knew he was coming towards the tail-end of his career and wouldn't feature much longer in Wenger's plans, so was probably looking for one final payday. I suppose that, in itself, shows a selfishness you talk about, but it's certainly something I could live with given the contribution he made to our club. Let's face it, how many of the players that have played for our great club really did care about it and us, the fans, beyond the money and glory they could get whilst working at Arsenal?
As I already indicated previously, his comments about Rocky were both inappropriate and wrong. I would like to think he'd realise that and maybe say/write something to that effect.
80's Gooner,
I Hate Hleb wrote:
...You're entitled to say you didn't like Wright's Rocky comments, the man himself and even that you didn't rate him as a player. But to start deminishing his reputation because Arsenal achieved success before he was even at the club is just plain ridiculous!!:
Where do I say that you're not entitled to your opinion, sunshine? Indeed the contrary is true. I then went on to explain in the next couple of paragraphs why I thought the opinion you had reached was ridiculous.
You then went on to claim in your last post that you didn't blame Wrighty for us not dominating the 90's, yet that is exactly what you did do:
80s Gooner wrote:..The week Arsenal signed Wright Arsenal put 6 past Austria Vienna and 5 past Sheffield Utd and if my memory serves me correct we top of the league and reigning league champions with the two of the best forwards of thier era (Smith and Merson) and two of the best striking prospects (Campbell and Andy Cole)
Cole never got a look in and Campbell went backwards, Smith never hit double figures again after Wrights arrival.
I always associate Wrights arrival with break up of the Thomas, Davis, Rocastle midfield, boring long ball football and mid table mediocraty..
Campbell and Cole may well have banged in all those goals in the reserves - and yes, I was aware of it, as I've been following Arsenal Home and Away since 1969
- but that was the reserves. Campbell in my opinion was never good enough for us and Cole although never getting a chance, was let go because of his attitude. Yes he scored tons of goals for Newcastle and Man Utd but was never as good as Wrighty.
I disagree with a lot of your comments further on in your last post but as you say - and this I always will agree with - you're entitled to your opinion. However, by the same token, I'm just as entitled to question it!!
And by the way, I never said we would have been relegated in the mid-90's without his goals. Someone else did.
And then we come to Rolypoly!!
Now what can I say about you that hasn't already been said?
Ah, fuck it!! It's enough to know that most people on here realise you're a bullshit artist and a complete and utter :awnker: to boot.
wned:
Since Wenger arrived in 1996, we have won the league 3 times and the FA Cup 4 times. In fact, only ManUre have been more successful than Arsenal since Wenger arrived!